Abortions - Right or Wrong?
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g-money wrote...
discordia wrote...
Well, it does have a higher consciousness and more complexity than an early embryo...Quoted for truth and irony. And they're both parasites.
Kind of makes you wonder why the argue it in the first place. Like stop mincing words and just come out say you care more because of your own morals instead of trying to justify yourself with science stories and twisted logic.
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I guess I'll say pro choice then. Some reasons being:
1. I may not like the idea of abortion, but I'm also not going to say it's wrong either.
2. It's a private matter between the parties involved, they may have a number of reasons why, but it only concerns their affairs and it isn't our place to judge.
3.Until more people actually put their money and hearts where their words lie, don't eliminate the choice to abort an unwanted, unloved, unexpected, unviable, un-whatever pregnancy. I'm not saying abortion is the only answer, but I am saying it should still remain an option.
Also, for the ones who say put them up for adoption, I would say put your time and effort into improving the adoption system instead of fighting this issue then. How many children fall through the cracks of the system?
1. I may not like the idea of abortion, but I'm also not going to say it's wrong either.
2. It's a private matter between the parties involved, they may have a number of reasons why, but it only concerns their affairs and it isn't our place to judge.
3.Until more people actually put their money and hearts where their words lie, don't eliminate the choice to abort an unwanted, unloved, unexpected, unviable, un-whatever pregnancy. I'm not saying abortion is the only answer, but I am saying it should still remain an option.
Also, for the ones who say put them up for adoption, I would say put your time and effort into improving the adoption system instead of fighting this issue then. How many children fall through the cracks of the system?
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I mean that the choose is the women. But i don't look as a murder. Sorry for my "cold heart" But i don't see as a murder if it not a thinking creature. And at a early stage of a abortion it is just "seed" that is growing. Of curse this "seed" could grow op to happy human. And one part you are stealing this "seed" gift of life. But again at a early stage it just non thinking cells that have some certain command to build.
NB: I am a Atheist if this sound kinda religious.
NB: I am a Atheist if this sound kinda religious.
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Spoiler:
HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT??? --->joking! It’s your point of view; everybody is entitled to say what’s on their mind.
-->well If you think clearly the child on the mother's womb can’t think for itself, as for it can't literally think, but mind you, it has feelings too, whether you believe it or not^^, I am a Nurse, but I’m saying this as my point of view as a Person. I don't think I quite agree w/ the No Rights- thus for me, the right is being placed on the mother or the parents rather than the embryo as some said earlier.
Morally Speaking I think one of the reason why some condemn Abortion is because it is a life inside another life which is basically a miracle, u get the point? So some people, more to who practically practice and favored and religiously believe this reason they’re the one who were-- how will I put it—They’re the one who are the most judgmental over those person who practice abortion and their the ones who are more protective and sensitive over this issue and it was pass on generation to generation, but there are some exemption on this abortion like the one’s the other members have said, abortion will be Legal and Binding if it is harmful to either the mother or the child, but when the scenario is just some teenagers or girls/ woman who chooses their own life than the life inside them, then its their choice, but I believe before they do that they all felt the fang of conscience on their heart and soul.
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In other countries the law states that a baby has rights when they become cognitive (middle of 3 trimester).
Hear its when the head leaves the vagina.
If ya follow the law you can abort when ever you like *with in the law.
Personally im pro choice ,but im game for compromise with the lifer religious right people.
my 2 cents.
Hear its when the head leaves the vagina.
If ya follow the law you can abort when ever you like *with in the law.
Personally im pro choice ,but im game for compromise with the lifer religious right people.
my 2 cents.
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I think we need to reduce the number of people that have to make this choice. I don't think any baby should be aborted, ever. But that is a choice that can only be made by the parents.
BTW ever notice how the guy has no say in abortions?
BTW ever notice how the guy has no say in abortions?
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I think it should be left up to individual parties to make up their own minds on the subject. No one should be able to stop a woman from making her own choices on this subject.
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I don't particularly care about the choices people make, and neither should others.
People got enough to worry about. They don't need to worry about other people's problems
People got enough to worry about. They don't need to worry about other people's problems
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only if it is a serious threat to the mothers well being and you've tried everything humanly possible to save the baby. honestly I would save the baby over the mother. no hard feeling to women out there, but you've had a life. give the kid a chance.
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Abortion is obviously wrong. However...
I'm pro-abortion. While it's extremely sad for the baby, I think it's much sadder for the baby to live a life with parents that want the kid dead. Adoption could be a solution to that, but parents don't want to do that sometimes because it would make them look bad. Also, parents force the responsibility on themselves but have a bad income would just make the entire family miserable.
I'm pro-abortion. While it's extremely sad for the baby, I think it's much sadder for the baby to live a life with parents that want the kid dead. Adoption could be a solution to that, but parents don't want to do that sometimes because it would make them look bad. Also, parents force the responsibility on themselves but have a bad income would just make the entire family miserable.
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windknight111 wrote...
In My Opinion. It Depends On The Status (Financial Wise) Of The To-Be-Mother And Father.To be honest, there are criteria that are way more important for example the psychological stability of the parents, physiological stability (as in not going to die within the next years due to diseases / drugs) etc.
In my opinion, a child that grows up in a household that might not have too much money, but is taking great care of the child or in a household that is well off, but were both parents are at work / out of the house 24/7, the first one is definitely better.
Anyways, to get to the main topic: It depends on the circumstances. If a parent aborts due to disease, not being able to supply the child properly or similar reasons it is fine, but aborting because an "oops, I messed up and forgot the condom" is a no.
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GreenZero
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Im not for it and im not against it i think that the woman should choose for herself it's her baby so it's her decision if she should have the abortion or not.
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When an egg is fertilized by sperm it becomes a unique organism with its own genetic code, dependent upon its host. It is in a very early stage of development, not yet self-aware, but it's an individual with its own rights just as any human being is at any other stage of development. To impose capability requirements on personhood is arbitrary.
Only it has the right to decide what can be done with its body. Since it's not yet capable of making a decision and communicating that decision, it must be left alone. Furthermore, it as an entity has been placed, without its consent, in a situation in which it's dependent on the mother for survival. This state of helplessness was imposed on it. Any act that results in its death is murder. The people who created it are obligated (by their own actions) to help it survive until it can survive on its own or someone else takes responsibility for doing so from them.
If it was created unilaterally (with sexual assault), the unavoidable burden placed upon the mother is a part of the rapist's crime. Killing the fetus because it's a product of incest or rape is punishing an innocent bystander instead of the people responsible for the pregnancy. The expected quality of life, financial status of the parents, etc. is completely irrelevant. No one has the right to choose for the child if its life would be worth living, no matter the circumstances.
If problems occur in pregnancy, it's still unjustifiable to kill the baby. Doctors may decide to play the odds game and kill a baby with little chance to survive to save the mother, but it's not morally right. *Someone* is responsible for the pregnancy and whatever results from it. It can't be the baby because it is an unwilling participant. If the mother consented to the sex that produced it, it's just an unfortunate fact of biology that even if she was using birth control and/or was unlikely to conceive, she took that risk and all its possible consequences, knowingly or not. It's not pretty but that's how personal responsibility and reproductive biology work. If the mother didn't consent, the responsibility is solely on the rapist. He is guilty of rape, enslaving his victim to an innocent third party for an indefinite period, and in the case of death in childbirth, one or two murders.
Only it has the right to decide what can be done with its body. Since it's not yet capable of making a decision and communicating that decision, it must be left alone. Furthermore, it as an entity has been placed, without its consent, in a situation in which it's dependent on the mother for survival. This state of helplessness was imposed on it. Any act that results in its death is murder. The people who created it are obligated (by their own actions) to help it survive until it can survive on its own or someone else takes responsibility for doing so from them.
If it was created unilaterally (with sexual assault), the unavoidable burden placed upon the mother is a part of the rapist's crime. Killing the fetus because it's a product of incest or rape is punishing an innocent bystander instead of the people responsible for the pregnancy. The expected quality of life, financial status of the parents, etc. is completely irrelevant. No one has the right to choose for the child if its life would be worth living, no matter the circumstances.
If problems occur in pregnancy, it's still unjustifiable to kill the baby. Doctors may decide to play the odds game and kill a baby with little chance to survive to save the mother, but it's not morally right. *Someone* is responsible for the pregnancy and whatever results from it. It can't be the baby because it is an unwilling participant. If the mother consented to the sex that produced it, it's just an unfortunate fact of biology that even if she was using birth control and/or was unlikely to conceive, she took that risk and all its possible consequences, knowingly or not. It's not pretty but that's how personal responsibility and reproductive biology work. If the mother didn't consent, the responsibility is solely on the rapist. He is guilty of rape, enslaving his victim to an innocent third party for an indefinite period, and in the case of death in childbirth, one or two murders.
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Tsurayu wrote...
I'm pro-choice. I can't really say what I would do because I would never be in the situation, but a woman's body is her own choice, not the governments. I think doctor's should be allowed to choose to practice it or not, but ultimately the government should stay out of it because it is not their concern what a mother does to her unborn child. I know a lot of activists on both sides post information regarding on whether or not you can consider a child a child and and what point the child is truly alive, but I think no one is going to win that debate. Just leave it up to the mother.
Agreed.
Its the mothers choice.
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don't think it's a choice. I mean this is probly comming from the fact I went to catholic school. It's a human the moment sperm and egg join. Hear me out, the big argument is that it was no brain. True it dosent have one untill like 3 weeks, I think. But I look at it lile this, it has the cromosomes and it is in fact a human being. I get this all the time, "what if it was conceved during rape? I think you have to abort it." . Ok, I see your point, it may bring back memories BUT what did the baby do? It didn't rape you, their a movie/ documentry about a women was a product of rape and was about to be aborted. But back in the 60's 70's abortion happen like the doctors just kidnap you in a way abort it drop you off. Her mother didn't lile the idea of that and made a last minute choice not to abort. She grew up sucessful becoming a millionaire and helping out socitey in a positive way. But anyway, it a human and abortion gives it no rights. Isn't America about equality and rights?
Thats my 2cents.
Thats my 2cents.
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Well, of course the baby didn't do anything BUT it is in fact not yet a human being, even if it will become one. It cannot feel pain or know that it's gonna "die", if you can call it that.
And I'm not sure, but if I was told by my mother that I was totally unwanted and a product of rape, I would either 1. Try to find the bastard who raped her and kill him or 2. Kill myself. Maybe.
And this isn't about america, it's about the world =P (or sweden, since I, who started the topic, is swed. Well, no matter).
And I'm not sure, but if I was told by my mother that I was totally unwanted and a product of rape, I would either 1. Try to find the bastard who raped her and kill him or 2. Kill myself. Maybe.
And this isn't about america, it's about the world =P (or sweden, since I, who started the topic, is swed. Well, no matter).