Do you hate the U.S?

Dunno. I've spoken to enough people from the typical FOX audience to know that they consider CNN "lib'rul", but to them even the Washington Post is "lib'rul". I also know American standards are wildly different from those here, and I know what "lib'rul" in the American sense means. But even so, from an outsider's perspective CNN always struck me as fairly...not liberal.

I didn't question your assessment of FOX, because I, too, would classify it as "conservative", diplomatically speaking.

Yea, to sum it all up, you're right.
Though, the question is whether a person can betray something they never had allegiance to in the first place?

Better question is if you don't fully support your country of origin and then move, that makes you a traitor? Wow, we should wrangle everyone whose moved away from the United States and sentence them with treason at penalty of death. :P

Hell yeah but that’s not even good enough lets have them raped to death that'll get the point across that.... well.... that we..... we don't fuck around how about that.

after long thought I could sum this up to a most satisfactory extent good place (I live here) but people whatever their stances just don't listen to the opposite end of them they simply just start spamming profanities or just walk away

because they don't want to hear the other its so infuriating that they don't even listen I don't care if they keep there stance but don't ignore the other side just because you don't like it.

and celeb thing that pisses me off too that fascination should be focused on technology and science

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Assuming I read everything you said correctly, you are right.

Fox News - FAR RIGHT
CNN - Somewhere in the middle, though more left than right (but I believe this is the case simply because America is heading in a more liberal direction at the moment)
MSNBC - FAR LEFT

I, unlike many of my friends do not mind Canadians. The only problem is... there everywhere where i live! What happens is it gets to cold for some and they move down to the desert where i live now!hehehehe Canadians.

I am proud to be American... sometimes. I like America but not on the path it's on now.

Am I the only American that feels like every time they hear a non American spout out "I don't like how the country thinks it's the best country in the world and looks down on others" really doesn't have a clue about the US?

Do I like my country? Yes
Would I want to move out of the country? Not really, I'd visit a few places maybe
Do I think we're above other countries? No.

I don't look above or below other countries. Well, a little with China. I think that's the only country I'm uncomfortable with.

But overall, I'm a normal person who just lives in the United States. I think that's how the majority of America feels. I also feel like it's other people from outside countries that point and staple the stereotype on our foreheads that we're lazy mother fuckers who think the shit we spew out is worth gold.

Lazy part? Yea, we are.
But we're not that obnoxious.


Like I've said before, we're the scapegoat.

Agreed, but I do get the sense that the United States does look down on some other countries, particularly those who don't have the same government style as we do. That's really the only thing that aggitates me. We (the government) seem to think that democracy is the only answer and everyone has to be just like us because we are the shiny example of it. Patriotism bordering on Nationalism and Jingoism up the ass, that's what bothers me about this country.

It would look a bit odd if we looked the same on Theocracies and Dictatorships or even false Democracies in the same way we look at Democracies or Republics. Plus, its a mental state that any government who denies freedom or rights to it citizens or even commits acts of human rights violations such as North Korea is somehow our equal? Why should a dictator like Hugo Chavez or Castro,etc,etc be looked at as an equal to us? While the Jingoism is a bit of a problem but, really the explanation comes at depending on which aspect or incident you are referring too.

I think some of the Patriotism comes from the fact that we are/were a superpower and had sheer dominance over everything. Then we got complacent and the thought pattern didn't follow the bulging guts and sweat pants. We're like the Evander Holyfield of super powers. It's time to hit the gym so our mental state and physical state match up again.

Edit; I apologize for this mess of a post. Not really all here ATM. Points still here though...somewhere in that mess.

The country? No.

The attitude of the majority of its residents? yes.

I can't actually say that i hate the people.But i hate the government because of the continuous wars they do in order to support the power of the US dollar.I mean, they'll just do anything not to not lose money, but not to earn less(!!)

I hate most all of the people in it, but not the country itself. i agree with Waar when he mentioned arrogance. We general are an arrogant nation and i can see how it can get a bit annoying sometimes.

The arrogant Americans are the bigots that don't take time to look into the system on government in which they live. What especially pisses me off, however, are people that THINK they are educated and dump all of America's shit on the Republican party.

Now, I myself am no too left or right wing. I just find it sad how when something goes badly in this country, the Republican Party takes the blame and even has the decency to not say anything. For instance, this housing crisis (which led to our national economic crisis) is the direst result of sub-prime mortgages brought on by the Clinton Administration because Clinton wanted to be a straight-up Democrat and say "Hey, you should all have houses you can't afford." and the stupid Americans went for it. Sure it worked, for a time, but when the economy started to collapse under Bush and election times came around, Obama blamed it all on him and Bush didn't say a word. (Not that Bush wasn't free of flaws)

I think that what makes Americans bad is the extreme idiocy in trying to always appear progressive while being a bigot. I, personally, know the system of government in which I live, and yes I do look down on some people's system of government in foreign nations, but not because I believe that they should have democracy, but just because I believe they should have some kind of stable government that doesn't prosecute someone. If we tried to change that, though, what else would we install but democracy, the only governmental system we know? Once we try this, however, we're called arrogant for trying to help people. I know back-room politics muck up good intentions, but I believe that if we try to do something to improve the lives of others, we should continue with it even if our appearance diminishes in the world view. I've fought in Iraq and I've seen how life was pre and post Saddam, and the public loved us when Saddam fell. The only mistake we made, if you can call it that, was being tied down by insurgent activity and staying there too long.

Fast-forward 6 years, and we're nosy, fat, dumb, and stupid because we tried to help a people under a dictator.

A large portion of our problems stem from the left trying to implement failed system of Canada and Europe as some weak attempt to be "progressive". As if Europe and Canada are perfect in every way possible. Another source of our problems are hard line republicans. Their main ticket is the economy which isn't a good source for "sound bite" or slogan material. It has to be explained and few people understand it when it is.

Democrat says "we're going to give everybody free health care" then the Republicans says that they oppose it because it won't work by being too expensive and the supporters of the system just denounce the republicans as hateful people because "They want to deny you health care" and "they say your good health isn't worth the cost" and then the population turns against them because they've been made out to be the bad guys.

Social security is another example. Republicans/conservatives want the entire system gone because they see the massive drain it'll be on the government's income and yet again Democrat's tug on American hearts and tell the elderly that those mean ole Republicans want them living out on the street and whatever nonsense they spewed out last time when Social security was a major voting issue.

Hard line Republicans seem to believe that morality should be the base of laws regarding behavior. So they heavily believe in censorship and infringement on separation of church and state,etc

To me, the average person is not represented by either of these groups but, are forced to choose between them for the lack of a better alternative. Don't blame the people, blame the idiots in Washington forcing bullshit down our throats day in and day out.

Exact-Amundo(if thats how u say it...)

basically you're right!

Oh wow, I'm glad someone realizes this shit.

Another thing that pisses me off:

Bush spends billions. People get pissed (I'm one of them).

Obama spends a TRILLION. People think he's a god. Now he wants to bring in free health care that will suck even more money.

FUCK.


True, but everyone's desires will never be fulfilled or else there would have to be millions of parties. The system we have can potentially work, IF the government would actually do as the people say rather than force shit down our throats and tell us it's what we want.