Do you hate the U.S?
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...As the way I see it, it`s not a Hate thing but more of a disagreement with what the previous government has done. A good example is The invasion of Iraq to eliminate terrorists even though the main reason or part of the reason was to get Oil, which in my mind was a poor choice all together I mean why let people die for Oil...
Another thing I disagree with is the fact is why doesn`t the U.S. have a National Health System, it stupid. People get sick and people get hurt who`s to say that they don`t deserve treatment for any wounds, injuries, and especially terminal sickness... it dont make the least bit of sense why people shouldn`t all deserve a national health care system.
It`s just a disagreement not a hate thing.
Another thing I disagree with is the fact is why doesn`t the U.S. have a National Health System, it stupid. People get sick and people get hurt who`s to say that they don`t deserve treatment for any wounds, injuries, and especially terminal sickness... it dont make the least bit of sense why people shouldn`t all deserve a national health care system.
It`s just a disagreement not a hate thing.
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Halatoma wrote...
Another thing I disagree with is the fact is why doesn`t the U.S. have a National Health System, it stupid. People get sick and people get hurt who`s to say that they don`t deserve treatment for any wounds, injuries, and especially terminal sickness... it dont make the least bit of sense why people shouldn`t all deserve a national health care system.I know it's asking a lot to read all the posts made in this thread, but arguing this point over and over again is quite annoying, but here it goes anyway... (again):
There are many reasons NOT to have a free national health care system. Seeing as how we're in an economical downfall, the REAL stupid move would be to implement the health care system. Our government would have to tax us more, meaning people will spend less in the economy which leads to slow circulation in currency. NOT what we need in our current state of economy (if ever).
Additionally, free health care forces everyone to wait. Looking at Canada for reference, we see many cases where people have to wait for their medical treatment. From those spawn stories of conditions worsening or people dying because they weren't able to get treated in time.
Another reason I don't support universal health care is because doctors can only charge a fixed amount which doesn't include the malpractice insurance... Also, because it's run by the government, it's a given that the average paycheck of a doctor will deteriorate. The profession's popularity will decrease since becoming a doctor is a pain in the ass meaning less doctors meaning more wait time meaning more deaths. We can also question the quality of the health care profession since the incentive to be the best is taken away because all doctors are paid the same wage.
If you actually study it, you find that this system sucks balls.
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Jericho Antares
FAKKU Writer
Halatoma wrote...
...As the way I see it, it`s not a Hate thing but more of a disagreement with what the previous government has done. A good example is The invasion of Iraq to eliminate terrorists even though the main reason or part of the reason was to get Oil, which in my mind was a poor choice all together I mean why let people die for Oil...Please don't say that that's all we were there for. Washington may have had that in mind, but if we (the men and women on the ground) weren't fighting for it directly, it's false. We fought for the people of Iraq that would crowd around our columns for as little as a candy bar. Never once did my platoon or any I know of stage an assault to capture an oil refinery after the initial few days of the war (to stop them from burning it like they did in the First Gulf War). That fucked the desert environment for a while.
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Shit...your a U.S. soldier. Uh all I can say and do is Thank you and everyone here aprecietes what u do, I respect ugreatly and all I can do to show u is rep u.
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Jericho Antares
FAKKU Writer
Sephorai wrote...
Shit...your a U.S. soldier. Uh all I can say and do is Thank you and everyone here aprecietes what u do, I respect ugreatly and all I can do to show u is rep u.Don't mention it, man. I'll be the first to admit that it wasn't so much for the sake of anyone over here as the ones over there. It's still appreciated though, thanks man.
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Jericho Antares
FAKKU Writer
Thanks again, man.
Kinda concerned that the traffic died down here, now I feel like I'm posting irrelevant stuff.
Oh, well. Time will tell.
Kinda concerned that the traffic died down here, now I feel like I'm posting irrelevant stuff.
Oh, well. Time will tell.
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PersonDude wrote...
Halatoma wrote...
Another thing I disagree with is the fact is why doesn`t the U.S. have a National Health System, it stupid. People get sick and people get hurt who`s to say that they don`t deserve treatment for any wounds, injuries, and especially terminal sickness... it dont make the least bit of sense why people shouldn`t all deserve a national health care system.I know it's asking a lot to read all the posts made in this thread, but arguing this point over and over again is quite annoying, but here it goes anyway... (again):
There are many reasons NOT to have a free national health care system. Seeing as how we're in an economical downfall, the REAL stupid move would be to implement the health care system. Our government would have to tax us more, meaning people will spend less in the economy which leads to slow circulation in currency. NOT what we need in our current state of economy (if ever).
Additionally, free health care forces everyone to wait. Looking at Canada for reference, we see many cases where people have to wait for their medical treatment. From those spawn stories of conditions worsening or people dying because they weren't able to get treated in time.
Another reason I don't support universal health care is because doctors can only charge a fixed amount which doesn't include the malpractice insurance... Also, because it's run by the government, it's a given that the average paycheck of a doctor will deteriorate. The profession's popularity will decrease since becoming a doctor is a pain in the ass meaning less doctors meaning more wait time meaning more deaths. We can also question the quality of the health care profession since the incentive to be the best is taken away because all doctors are paid the same wage.
If you actually study it, you find that this system sucks balls.
I'm already behind on one, but remind me to +rep that too. I think that is the first time I've completely agreed with you on something. XD
There isn't any reason we can't reform and make healthcare more affordable, but free, universal healthcare is really a disastrous concept. Maybe it works for some, but I fail to see how the United States could implement it effectively.
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I don't think people actually hate the U.S. I think it would be better described as
disappointment. the U.S. is supposed to be the best country in the world,but in recent years we have stopped being as progressive of a society.
disappointment. the U.S. is supposed to be the best country in the world,but in recent years we have stopped being as progressive of a society.
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Hm. I can only speak from experience, and the reason why I have some problems with americans is, again, the attitude. Being swedish (aka kind of cold & quiet) and not used to the average confident, patriotic and loud american, it can be quite a cultural clash sometimes. I've met my fair share of americans during my travels, and at first glimpse, I've found all americans to be the same. Loud and obnoxious, not considerate and just too much of the whole "I'm AMERICAN"-thing (like it explains everything).
But ironically, as it turns out: every american I've gotten to know better, are people I am now great friends with. When you get past the prejudices about americans, they're actually quite humble and not to mention funny people.
But, as I can't help my own cultural standards, I still have problems with the general american attitude. :/ But at least now I give people a chance, heh.
Ps. I sorta have the same problems with Italians though, hah. You are all too lively for my boring swedish nature!
But ironically, as it turns out: every american I've gotten to know better, are people I am now great friends with. When you get past the prejudices about americans, they're actually quite humble and not to mention funny people.
But, as I can't help my own cultural standards, I still have problems with the general american attitude. :/ But at least now I give people a chance, heh.
Ps. I sorta have the same problems with Italians though, hah. You are all too lively for my boring swedish nature!
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Personally, NO, i dont hate US.
I like America, i like US, their cities, people, and most of all... the fun, also its the nearest place i can visit.
I consider the american people my friends and good neighbors
I like America, i like US, their cities, people, and most of all... the fun, also its the nearest place i can visit.
I consider the american people my friends and good neighbors
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Regrettably, almost every foreigner I know hates the United States. One of my closest friends from my childhood in China has actually said that he was happy that 9/11 took several thousand US lives. Naturally, proceeded to kick the shit out of him with a cricket mallet.
At this point, I've stopped caring. I'm a recently naturalized US citizen, and quite honestly, I say if the rest of the world wants to hate the US, then there's nothing we can do about it. It's only natural to hate the entity that seems all-powerful. It's like the Galactic Empire vs the Rebellion in Star Wars. Nobody likes the big powerful giant.
So I guess my point is: Star Wars is the reason behind the hate of the US.
At this point, I've stopped caring. I'm a recently naturalized US citizen, and quite honestly, I say if the rest of the world wants to hate the US, then there's nothing we can do about it. It's only natural to hate the entity that seems all-powerful. It's like the Galactic Empire vs the Rebellion in Star Wars. Nobody likes the big powerful giant.
So I guess my point is: Star Wars is the reason behind the hate of the US.
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Hey Pog now that u brought that up u made me all worried bcus how did Stars Wars end O.O.
PS: Just to add to this conversation I am not An AmericAn I'm Venezuelen and damn proud of it but I live in the US as a citizen
PS: Just to add to this conversation I am not An AmericAn I'm Venezuelen and damn proud of it but I live in the US as a citizen
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Sephorai wrote...
Hey Pog now that u brought that up u made me all worried bcus how did Stars Wars end O.O.PS: Just to add to this conversation I am not An AmericAn I'm Venezuelen and damn proud of it but I live in the US as a citizen
So you are an American citizen, because you went through the Naturalization.
Naturalization
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Scion in chains
The Forgotten Faggot
I dont hate countries I hate assholes. & they are evetywhere, you cant avoid them. Its inevitable! Some places just have more than others. EDIT: Ive never ran into an asshole in Paris. NEVER! Its a miracle!
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Realy cus their doushbags to Americans I went to Paris and asked ppl where the Eifel Tower was and a great deal of them told me they didn't know where d Eifel tower (which is freakin impossible bcus u can't live in Paris and not know where the Eifel tower is)was then walked away. A few others told me they didn't understand English (even though they told me that in fluent English) and a few others called me a stupid American then spit on the ground in front of me then walked away. So yeah the French a doushbags no offence
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Scion in chains
The Forgotten Faggot
Which is WHY it was a miracle. Why ask where the Eiffel tower was, you CANT miss it! BTW, EPIC pic. I stare in awe each time I see it.
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I've got nothing bad to say to them. i once visited the US and i was not disappointed with my stay there.
although... there WAS one particular event that stayed in my head..
i was merely playing with my GBAsp and then took a breather via pause. i was at a mall while waiting for my grandma (does this sound pathetic >_<) to finish with her window shopping... then while i was just idly looking around my surroundings, a guys looked at me, and i looked at him. he was riding on something like a scooter of sorts, so i had to turn my head while he was moving. as our eyes were locked on to us in an awkward way, he brok the ie... BY SUDDENLY BAD-MOUTHING ME!!! i was SOOO taken aback befor i could properly respond... and i 'properly' responded, by facing away and sending a FUCK YOU sign with our body's favorite finger :D
No shit?
although... there WAS one particular event that stayed in my head..
i was merely playing with my GBAsp and then took a breather via pause. i was at a mall while waiting for my grandma (does this sound pathetic >_<) to finish with her window shopping... then while i was just idly looking around my surroundings, a guys looked at me, and i looked at him. he was riding on something like a scooter of sorts, so i had to turn my head while he was moving. as our eyes were locked on to us in an awkward way, he brok the ie... BY SUDDENLY BAD-MOUTHING ME!!! i was SOOO taken aback befor i could properly respond... and i 'properly' responded, by facing away and sending a FUCK YOU sign with our body's favorite finger :D
Sephorai wrote...
Realy cus their doushbags to Americans I went to Paris and asked ppl where the Eifel Tower was and a great deal of them told me they didn't know where d Eifel tower (which is freakin impossible bcus u can't live in Paris and not know where the Eifel tower is)was then walked away. A few others told me they didn't understand English (even though they told me that in fluent English) and a few others called me a stupid American then spit on the ground in front of me then walked away. So yeah the French a doushbags no offenceNo shit?
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To hate a country is to be arrogant, you can hate its governments actions, or it's policies, but you can't hate a country as a whole because of what a country is - a group of people and thier customs. As a solider i know that if and when i go to war its not the people of that country i fight, i fight the solider's and the ideologies that threaten my own country. But i'm not fighting the country persay. And you know where alot of people DON'T reconize the differnce between a countries people and a countries government? In industrialized nations like france, italy, the usa, canada, and germany (i have been to all these places). But my stay in the U.A.E. was filled with people who were just plain nice, respectful people. But even in weathly nations, there is always execptions - i love every single japanese person i work with right now.
Don't hate a country for being overly patroitic, or for having a different viewpoint then yours. To them, they think their country is the best country in the world, just like we think ours is.
BTW my friend gave me a sweater (yeah i know it is summer) that said "USA Air Force - the SECOND Best Airforce in the world!!!" i know he meant it as a joke but i really think who ever designed the sweater actually thought it was a compliment...
Don't hate a country for being overly patroitic, or for having a different viewpoint then yours. To them, they think their country is the best country in the world, just like we think ours is.
BTW my friend gave me a sweater (yeah i know it is summer) that said "USA Air Force - the SECOND Best Airforce in the world!!!" i know he meant it as a joke but i really think who ever designed the sweater actually thought it was a compliment...