gay marriage
gay marriage: yes? or no?
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R3v3ng3r wrote...

“They are preserving the sanctity of marriage, so that two gay men who've been together for twenty-five years can't get married, but a guy can still get drunk in Vegas and marry a hooker at the Elvis chapel! The sanctity of marriage is saved!”
This is the biggest problem with the whole "no gay marriage" position - if you want gay marriage banned, you pretty much have to want divorce banned, too, because they both pervert the "sanctity" of marriage. Unfortunately, I never hear that brought up in conversations between the big-wigs on both sides of the issue.
I watched a Dr. Phil episode today about gay marriage. (I hate Dr. Phil, but the subject interested me, and thankfully, Dr. Phil said next to nothing.) A good point was brought up that made everything clear to me. The side against gay marriage was saying that California had already voted democratically to prohibit gay marriage and that should be respected, and someone on the side of gay marriage said that in the past, the majority of Americans also voted to make interracial marriage illegal. The government ignored what the majority thought and made interracial marriages legal, because it was the right thing to do. The same thing should happen with gay marriage, and I don't just mean, "They should do it." I mean, it probably will happen in the future. I don't know how far in the future, but hopefully sometime in the next twenty years, or sooner. When gay marriage is made legal all across the country, and people everywhere take the sticks out of their asses, gay marriage will become a simple thing, just like interracial marriages are nowadays.
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Well technically it SHOULD be legal since marriage has never been specified as between a man and a women, plus there's the whole civil rights thing
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Gay marriage is fine. if two people love each other they should have the right to get married even if they are the same sex.
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Marriage sucks. Enough said. If Gays want to be married I say let them be married. They will soon find out that it is bad themselves. I haven't seen a happy couple in all my life. So if Gays wanna be miserable let em.
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Well, let them do what they want to do. I'm OK with that. At least unless they try to force me into playing "wife" (but playing husband would be also disasterous).
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just what is society's problem with gay marriage, i mean gay people are exactly like hetero people cept for the obvious fact they swing the other way. It not like as if they have 5 arms or a totally different species.
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Yeah I don't get how anyone can have a problem with it unless there crazy religious fanatics and so there crazy.
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exterminatus wrote...
just what is society's problem with gay marriage, i mean gay people are exactly like hetero people cept for the obvious fact they swing the other way. It not like as if they have 5 arms or a totally different species.Well, the most famous fiction book of all time told millions of gullible people that gay marriage was bad. Yup, a book. I can't believe it either.
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Azuran wrote...
exterminatus wrote...
just what is society's problem with gay marriage, i mean gay people are exactly like hetero people cept for the obvious fact they swing the other way. It not like as if they have 5 arms or a totally different species.Well, the most famous fiction book of all time told millions of gullible people that gay marriage was bad. Yup, a book. I can't believe it either.
What? the bible? that boo has been in the best sellers list far too long
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Also, the bible's the most shoplifted book ever. Ironic, yes?
On the note of the bible, the thing that most people dont realize when they read the bible was the time period it was written. See, the writers, naturally, took into account the issues of THEIR time, and didn't really think ahead. "God" saying "gays are bad" goes hand in hand with the statement "Be fruitful and multiply". At the time, it was every mans duty to pass off his man-juice to a woman and make another generation, because sickness and hunger killed of so many people, if the world was to stay, well, populated, a man couldn't AFFORD to be gay... or at least, as they thought at the time.
Now that that isn't the issue anymore, but people still take all the bibles rules seriously, because, well, they're idiots.
Me, personally, I think gays should be able to get married. It especially bothers me when people rant about how nontraditional it is. Traditionally, women didn't go to school and Africans worked in farms as slaves. America is built on a foundation of breaking tradition. Hell, its due to a broken tradition we became a contery in the first place.
Its not like they're hurting anyone giving them that right.
thanks!
On the note of the bible, the thing that most people dont realize when they read the bible was the time period it was written. See, the writers, naturally, took into account the issues of THEIR time, and didn't really think ahead. "God" saying "gays are bad" goes hand in hand with the statement "Be fruitful and multiply". At the time, it was every mans duty to pass off his man-juice to a woman and make another generation, because sickness and hunger killed of so many people, if the world was to stay, well, populated, a man couldn't AFFORD to be gay... or at least, as they thought at the time.
Now that that isn't the issue anymore, but people still take all the bibles rules seriously, because, well, they're idiots.
Me, personally, I think gays should be able to get married. It especially bothers me when people rant about how nontraditional it is. Traditionally, women didn't go to school and Africans worked in farms as slaves. America is built on a foundation of breaking tradition. Hell, its due to a broken tradition we became a contery in the first place.
Its not like they're hurting anyone giving them that right.
thanks!
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hey whats wrong with gays? ppl to you know.. i would actually prefer to be freinds with a gay than a lot of straight ppl..
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I Actually know a Few gay people...
My uncle who is gay also a Nice,Well-educated,funny guy...
i learn a few things from him...
To gay marriage? Yes or No?
its not my thing to say....
My uncle who is gay also a Nice,Well-educated,funny guy...
i learn a few things from him...
To gay marriage? Yes or No?
its not my thing to say....
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All I have to say is that, if gay marriage is okay, then why isn't marriage between brothers and sisters okay?
The main argument of pro-gay movement is that love doesn't have any boundaries... then it should hold true to everything... Just quick food for thought. >_>
The main argument of pro-gay movement is that love doesn't have any boundaries... then it should hold true to everything... Just quick food for thought. >_>
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Why take away the privilege of homosexuals to marry? When most marriages end up in divorce, these couples are actually in love and want to be committed to a long relationship.
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PersonDude wrote...
All I have to say is that, if gay marriage is okay, then why isn't marriage between brothers and sisters okay?The main argument of pro-gay movement is that love doesn't have any boundaries... then it should hold true to everything... Just quick food for thought. >_>
In which way is those to even the slightest related to each other? Marriage between siblings is illegal beacuse there is a high risk that their children will be mentaly or physiclly disturbed, or even born dead. of course, marrige doesn't mean sex, but it usually goes hand in hand.
Anyway, of course gay marriage should be ok, why is it anybodys buisness who loves who? Thinking otherwise is just a leaving of conservative catholism, which is what I should be illegal... Or maybe you're just a fascist who thinks so.
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Ethil wrote...
In which way is those to even the slightest related to each other? Marriage between siblings is illegal beacuse there is a high risk that their children will be mentaly or physiclly disturbed, or even born dead. of course, marrige doesn't mean sex, but it usually goes hand in hand.Anyway, of course gay marriage should be ok, why is it anybodys buisness who loves who? Thinking otherwise is just a leaving of conservative catholism, which is what I should be illegal... Or maybe you're just a fascist who thinks so.
It's related because of the bolded statement. Just like gay couples, why is it our business that they love each other? You said sibling marriage shouldn't be allowed because of the risk of mentally retarded children or stillborn babies. Then just make sure they can't have children since they would be in the same boat as gay couples of not being able to conceive children. If you don't think that's right, then you shouldn't be agreeing with gay marriage.
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PersonDude wrote...
Ethil wrote...
In which way is those to even the slightest related to each other? Marriage between siblings is illegal beacuse there is a high risk that their children will be mentaly or physiclly disturbed, or even born dead. of course, marrige doesn't mean sex, but it usually goes hand in hand.Anyway, of course gay marriage should be ok, why is it anybodys buisness who loves who? Thinking otherwise is just a leaving of conservative catholism, which is what I should be illegal... Or maybe you're just a fascist who thinks so.
It's related because of the bolded statement. Just like gay couples, why is it our business that they love each other? You said sibling marriage shouldn't be allowed because of the risk of mentally retarded children or stillborn babies. Then just make sure they can't have children since they would be in the same boat as gay couples of not being able to conceive children. If you don't think that's right, then you shouldn't be agreeing with gay marriage.
But a Gay couple having a child together isn't biologically possible, that's the difference. The only way your argument applies is to make one of the partners sterile. The reason incestual love is so discouraged is that love/marriage/dating quite often leads to sex. It is much easier to discourage it all together then to make it safe. Although easier doesn't always mean right.
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PersonDude wrote...
Ethil wrote...
In which way is those to even the slightest related to each other? Marriage between siblings is illegal beacuse there is a high risk that their children will be mentaly or physiclly disturbed, or even born dead. of course, marrige doesn't mean sex, but it usually goes hand in hand.Anyway, of course gay marriage should be ok, why is it anybodys buisness who loves who? Thinking otherwise is just a leaving of conservative catholism, which is what I should be illegal... Or maybe you're just a fascist who thinks so.
It's related because of the bolded statement. Just like gay couples, why is it our business that they love each other? You said sibling marriage shouldn't be allowed because of the risk of mentally retarded children or stillborn babies. Then just make sure they can't have children since they would be in the same boat as gay couples of not being able to conceive children. If you don't think that's right, then you shouldn't be agreeing with gay marriage.
As for me, if you want to marry your sister, then go ahead. I wont judge you for loving her, even that much. I just pointed out WHY it is illegal with incest (and prob to try prevent making incest legal, also the marriage between siblings). And sure, if you would prevent the risk of pregnancy, why not. Then again, I think it Would be wrong to Force someone to not be able to have children. The difference is just that gay people can't have children of natural causes.
Edit: Person above already pointed out some good stuff =)