gay marriage
gay marriage: yes? or no?
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I think now, we're free enough and open-minded to accept gay marriages. I have nothing against it, everyone is free to be with the person he likes.
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But of course my dear watson its yes.Gay people love to and they deserve to marry those they love.Who happen to be men.Ehh there decision not mine its fine with me i dont really care if it doesnt impact my life i dont give a fuck.Besides GAY PEOPLE ARE SO NICE they are the only people who belive chivilry isnt dead.
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discordia wrote...
i didnt vote in here because it comes with restrictions. they should be able to get married, but it should not have any economical consequences, i.e. married tax cuts (which supposedly should be an incentive for married folks to breed, which they wont)
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I'm absolutely fine with it, but for the sake of argument I'm an extremely open-minded Liberal. The way I've always seen it is that allowing same-sex marriages isn't going to hurt anyone. If you don't support same-sex marriages fine. You don't have to support it, get married to someone with the same gender or even associate with those that do, but don't allow your religious or moral convictions to get in the way of those who do not agree with you.
I guess I'll stop there before I go all anti-religion. XD
I guess I'll stop there before I go all anti-religion. XD
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Tsurayu wrote...
I'm absolutely fine with it, but for the sake of argument I'm an extremely open-minded Liberal. The way I've always seen it is that allowing same-sex marriages isn't going to hurt anyone. If you don't support same-sex marriages fine. You don't have to support it, get married to someone with the same gender or even associate with those that do, but don't allow your religious or moral convictions to get in the way of those who do not agree with you. I guess I'll stop there before I go all anti-religion. XD
Very well put. One thing that pisses me off is when American politicians say that it goes against god when America was founded on the belief of Church and State being separate. Our forefathers must be rolling over in there graves.
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Gay people have the same right to fall in love, get married, realise in a year or two that they don't love thier partner, fight, get divorced and live lonely for the rest of thier life just like stright people.
In short I've nothing against gay marriage.
In short I've nothing against gay marriage.
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I dont think theres an issue with gay marriage and I dont have a problem with it, if 2 people love eachother and want to marry , they should be allowed to nomatter the gender.
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IEAIAIO wrote...
Gay people have the same right to fall in love, get married, realise in a year or two that they don't love thier partner, fight, get divorced and live lonely for the rest of thier life just like stright people.In short I've nothing against gay marriage.
Haha, I'm not sure it could be put better than that.
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If anyone says gay marriage (or homosexuality is unnatural) they are insanely retarded. Gay people have existed as early as the Egyptians (and probably much much earlier as well), homosexual behaviors can be observed in a number of animals (just watch two male dogs humping even) - they cannot procreate themselves, no, but it is still natural for them none the less. They have not, and will not ever threaten the procreation of humanity (if anything they MAY provide a tiny fraction of population control, as well as providing adoption, both we need more of). In this day and age we need much more tolerance and love. If two people can come together, and love and support each other, who is to say their unity (marriage, civil..w/e) can not be valid? Screw you for trying to stop out that love with your bigotry.
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In theory: Oppose, on the grounds that I think the state should not recognize any sort of civil union whatsoever. I think marriage as an official institution should be abolished, period. It should be a private matter.
If someone wants to hold a rite of their choosing, that should be their business - and if this rite so happens to be religious, the business of the respective clergy.
As far as the state is concerned, it should have no business in people's lifestyles.
In practice: Support, because since we got the whole state-sanctioned marriage business going on for the time being, equal rights should be bestowed upon all, no matter their lifestyle. I myself am rather disgusted by the idea of hairy man-on-man sex, but I do not ask for my personal views to be codified by law. In fact, I ask for the opposite: Thou shalt not legislate taste!
If someone wants to hold a rite of their choosing, that should be their business - and if this rite so happens to be religious, the business of the respective clergy.
As far as the state is concerned, it should have no business in people's lifestyles.
In practice: Support, because since we got the whole state-sanctioned marriage business going on for the time being, equal rights should be bestowed upon all, no matter their lifestyle. I myself am rather disgusted by the idea of hairy man-on-man sex, but I do not ask for my personal views to be codified by law. In fact, I ask for the opposite: Thou shalt not legislate taste!
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u know idk why people against it soo bad i mean there are people whose love lesbo and gays why dont they let and i never heard anyone against that so why dont let them marry each other???
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gibbous wrote...
In theory: Oppose, on the grounds that I think the state should not recognize any sort of civil union whatsoever. I think marriage as an official institution should be abolished, period. It should be a private matter.If someone wants to hold a rite of their choosing, that should be their business - and if this rite so happens to be religious, the business of the respective clergy.
As far as the state is concerned, it should have no business in people's lifestyles.
I know you said "In Theory" but never the less, this poses all kinds of legal repercussions, as marriage is as much a court matter as it is ceremonial. Plenty of legal rights involved in marriage (and also divorce) as well as ownership and protective rights are a part of the reason why marriage should be allowed between straight or gay couples.
gibbous wrote...
I myself am rather disgusted by the idea of hairy man-on-man sex,Why? There is really nothing to be disgusted with at all. I think the reason a lot of people may wish to deny gay couples their rights (besides the religious arguments) is a deep subconscious fear or disgust of gay sex/intimacy. There is nothing different from gay sex as there is from straight. The logistics perhaps, but with physical interaction there is hardly a difference. Sure I wouldn't curl up with a cup of tea and watch gay porn at my leisure, it's not my thing, but I am not disgusted by the idea of two men (or women for that matter) loving each other physically. Nobody should be.
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one2hit wrote...
I know you said "In Theory" but never the less, this poses all kinds of legal repercussions, as marriage is as much a court matter as it is ceremonial. Plenty of legal rights involved in marriage (and also divorce) as well as ownership and protective rights are a part of the reason why marriage should be allowed between straight or gay couples.Hence my division into "practice" and "theory". As I acknowledged: For now,marriage is not a private, but an official matter, and therefore equal rights must apply to all. I would rather have the legal (not ritual) concept of marriage thrown overboard altogether today than tomorrow, but I am not naive.
one2hit wrote...
Why?There's no rational reason for it. It's the same as being disgusted by eating insects, even though they are allegedly tasty and high in nutritional value. Gut feeling. Taste, if you will. Hence my:
gibbous wrote...
Thou shalt not legislate taste!one2hit wrote...
There is nothing different from gay sex as there is from straight. The logistics perhaps, but with physical interaction there is hardly a difference.As I said: the idea of two men (the gender I am not attracted to) engaging in forms of sex I personally find rather disgusting to begin with (anal intercourse), is off-putting to me. As opposed to quite a lot of men I don't find lesbianism attractive either, to be frank, but the lack of ass-fucking, as far as the stereotype goes, makes it seem somewhat less appalling to me.
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MidgarKonotsu wrote...
As Stephen Colbert once said, "What they do in the privacy of my imagination is their own business." Fun Fact: AIDS was originaly called "The Gay Plauge."Because at one point it existed predominantly only in homosexuals.
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ShaggyJebus wrote...
nekroskoma wrote...
why does it seem the when its a same sex marriage their actually happy, it seems that all of the hetero people i know who are married are unhappy their either together out of convince or end up splitting up within a yearIt's possible that if gay marriage was completely legal, there would be just as many gay divorces as straight divorces.
Absolutely! Another thing that someone mentioned was virus.What! Gay the preference if you will is a corruption of ways, a fault, sin however you want to look at it.it means the same thing. Masterbation,lust,want of murder,stealing. Everyone has fault EVERYONE!! don't even listen to socail darwinism bullshit or anything along those lines you'd just be kidding yourself to feel better. the mere fact that we are at this site is fault of man. and......ugh hate to be the one to do this but..it is WRONG.PERIOD
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one2hit wrote...
If anyone says gay marriage (or homosexuality is unnatural) they are insanely retarded. Gay people have existed as early as the Egyptians (and probably much much earlier as well), homosexual behaviors can be observed in a number of animals (just watch two male dogs humping even) - they cannot procreate themselves, no, but it is still natural for them none the less. They have not, and will not ever threaten the procreation of humanity (if anything they MAY provide a tiny fraction of population control, as well as providing adoption, both we need more of). In this day and age we need much more tolerance and love. If two people can come together, and love and support each other, who is to say their unity (marriage, civil..w/e) can not be valid? Screw you for trying to stop out that love with your bigotry.To add facts to this. EGYPT WAS DESTROYED!!!!!! AND YES IT DID EXIST BEFORE THST EVER SINCE THE FIRST SIN TOUCHED DOWN IN THE WORLD CUZ OF EVE"S FUCK UP.damn bitch why did she do it :(
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Homosexual men existed for a long time, that's a fact, but they at least had the decency not to wonder about my garden. So were schizophrenics and other mentaly ill people who understood they were sick yet didn't want to get healthy.
Oh, and one more thing. Lesbians are ok. God said nothing about them, so if they're not feminist my garden's wide open to them.
Oh, and one more thing. Lesbians are ok. God said nothing about them, so if they're not feminist my garden's wide open to them.
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Carthagian wrote...
one2hit wrote...
If anyone says gay marriage (or homosexuality is unnatural) they are insanely retarded. Gay people have existed as early as the Egyptians (and probably much much earlier as well), homosexual behaviors can be observed in a number of animals (just watch two male dogs humping even) - they cannot procreate themselves, no, but it is still natural for them none the less. They have not, and will not ever threaten the procreation of humanity (if anything they MAY provide a tiny fraction of population control, as well as providing adoption, both we need more of). In this day and age we need much more tolerance and love. If two people can come together, and love and support each other, who is to say their unity (marriage, civil..w/e) can not be valid? Screw you for trying to stop out that love with your bigotry.To add facts to this. EGYPT WAS DESTROYED!!!!!! AND YES IT DID EXIST BEFORE THST EVER SINCE THE FIRST SIN TOUCHED DOWN IN THE WORLD CUZ OF EVE"S FUCK UP.damn bitch why did she do it :(
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