gay marriage
gay marriage: yes? or no?
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Raikadashi wrote...

GAY MARRIAGE GETS MY THUMBS UP!
Lol, but seriously. Just like how we allow freedom of religion and religious practices, we should also allow the practices (assuming it's not threatening) of people that are also non-religious. Equal rights is gewd.
Gewd, but it depends how they're executed.
There are plenty of people that want to be treated equally in some ways, but reciieve special privelages in others.
Take women. "We wanna be treated equally in the workplace." No. They wanna get PAID equally...they still wanna get treated like a woman. I like working in a factory cause the women there don't give a shit, "Hey Monica! You're looking fucking HOT today!" Monica: "Fucking right I am!"
Any other place? "Hey Monica! Looking fucking smoking today." *lawsuit*
Minorities? Not to be racist but Affirmative Action is bullshit. That is all.
Handicapped people? "I wanna park in the front of the parking lots, I want to get a free expressway to the front of every line, and if anyone calls bullshit, I get to get them kicked out of the establishment. I also want the ability to not work if I don't want to and still get paid."
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Pink_Steam wrote...
I don't see why not, my country (Canada) has had it for a few years and our crime rate is low.LOL
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BigLundi wrote...
Raikadashi wrote...

GAY MARRIAGE GETS MY THUMBS UP!
Lol, but seriously. Just like how we allow freedom of religion and religious practices, we should also allow the practices (assuming it's not threatening) of people that are also non-religious. Equal rights is gewd.
Gewd, but it depends how they're executed.
There are plenty of people that want to be treated equally in some ways, but reciieve special privelages in others.
Take women. "We wanna be treated equally in the workplace." No. They wanna get PAID equally...they still wanna get treated like a woman. I like working in a factory cause the women there don't give a shit, "Hey Monica! You're looking fucking HOT today!" Monica: "Fucking right I am!"
Any other place? "Hey Monica! Looking fucking smoking today." *lawsuit*
Minorities? Not to be racist but Affirmative Action is bullshit. That is all.
Handicapped people? "I wanna park in the front of the parking lots, I want to get a free expressway to the front of every line, and if anyone calls bullshit, I get to get them kicked out of the establishment. I also want the ability to not work if I don't want to and still get paid."
Good point, but those are what these people WANT. Kids want a lot of things as well. So do these people. You gonna spoil the shit out of them, or...?
And also, marriage should be a standard right for all people. Marriage shouldn't be a special privilege here, it should be for all. A basic right.
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Yes I see no reason to ban marriage between gays. People seem to forget we used to ban interracial marriage too.
Giving freedom to other groups is one step into the right direction.
.....Well religion will certainly not make this a law.....hmm....must come from somewhere else.
But seriously anyone who voted no is an ignorant bastard who is only holding up civilization from progressing.
No one has actually shown any correlation with gay marriage leading to anything damaging.
You might like this video, I got a laugh out of it. I love Coughlan's comedy routines.
Giving freedom to other groups is one step into the right direction.
.....Well religion will certainly not make this a law.....hmm....must come from somewhere else.
But seriously anyone who voted no is an ignorant bastard who is only holding up civilization from progressing.
No one has actually shown any correlation with gay marriage leading to anything damaging.
You might like this video, I got a laugh out of it. I love Coughlan's comedy routines.
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i choice *NO*
i just not hate any gays or lesbians.
But to be married is a Bible thing...
I just dont want go in any *old old times* or other but the bible just invented the marriage and the bible is just again gays bzw. versus the gay marriage.
and i think its okay.
The marriage is 4 man and woman...
i just not hate any gays or lesbians.
But to be married is a Bible thing...
I just dont want go in any *old old times* or other but the bible just invented the marriage and the bible is just again gays bzw. versus the gay marriage.
and i think its okay.
The marriage is 4 man and woman...
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kiruschka wrote...
i choice *NO*i just not hate any gays or lesbians.
But to be married is a Bible thing...
I just dont want go in any *old old times* or other but the bible just invented the marriage and the bible is just again gays bzw. versus the gay marriage.
and i think its okay.
The marriage is 4 man and woman...
Although I had a little difficulty understanding what kind of grammar techniques you use I still got your point. I myself is not against gay or lesbian relationship but frankly I strongly disagree with gay marriage. As he said religion invented marriage and for what I currently know all religions condemn same sex marriage. All religions only recognize female and male marriages, doesn't even matter if it between a 60yr old man and a 11 yr old loli as long as they are the opposite sex. Gays should just be content with civil marriage were the law of man recognize their bonds and just leave God and other Gods out of this.
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I don't see what the big deal is. Its stupid to not let people marry all because they like the same race. And this coming from someone who is a Christian.
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HokutoCorpse wrote...
I don't see what the big deal is. Its stupid to not let people marry all because they like the same race. And this coming from someone who is a Christian.Christians, Muslims and other religions has rules or laws. This laws go way way back and lots and lots of blood have been shed for that beliefs. If your saying gays getting married by civil/law of man then its ok, but if your saying that its stupid not to let gays have a christian marriage/religious marriage then you are stupid.
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Marriage is no longer a religious affair. And Marriage was not started as a religious affair either.
The idea of marriage can be trace back to numerous documents from the Sumerian period 2500 BC.
The gist is that women were property. A male would negotiate a contract with the future father-in-law. The contract was a guarantee from the wife's family, that the husband would have a mate from their family, or the wife's family would have to give back everything that was agreed upon. If the husband were to die, his family would be required to give a replacement male or give up all the things that was agreed upon. Women were the binding entity that joined a contract between two households.
So don't pull this marriage is religious bullshit because that is not how it started. I hate when people don't even look something up before they make such statements.
The idea of marriage can be trace back to numerous documents from the Sumerian period 2500 BC.
The gist is that women were property. A male would negotiate a contract with the future father-in-law. The contract was a guarantee from the wife's family, that the husband would have a mate from their family, or the wife's family would have to give back everything that was agreed upon. If the husband were to die, his family would be required to give a replacement male or give up all the things that was agreed upon. Women were the binding entity that joined a contract between two households.
So don't pull this marriage is religious bullshit because that is not how it started. I hate when people don't even look something up before they make such statements.
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venveng wrote...
kiruschka wrote...
i choice *NO*i just not hate any gays or lesbians.
But to be married is a Bible thing...
I just dont want go in any *old old times* or other but the bible just invented the marriage and the bible is just again gays bzw. versus the gay marriage.
and i think its okay.
The marriage is 4 man and woman...
Although I had a little difficulty understanding what kind of grammar techniques you use I still got your point. I myself is not against gay or lesbian relationship but frankly I strongly disagree with gay marriage. As he said religion invented marriage and for what I currently know all religions condemn same sex marriage. All religions only recognize female and male marriages, doesn't even matter if it between a 60yr old man and a 11 yr old loli as long as they are the opposite sex. Gays should just be content with civil marriage were the law of man recognize their bonds and just leave God and other Gods out of this.
sry 4 my bad englishx3
but i think u understand what i write:P
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Ironytaken wrote...
Marriage is no longer a religious affair. And Marriage was not started as a religious affair either.The idea of marriage can be trace back to numerous documents from the Sumerian period 2500 BC.
The gist is that women were property. A male would negotiate a contract with the future father-in-law. The contract was a guarantee from the wife's family, that the husband would have a mate from their family, or the wife's family would have to give back everything that was agreed upon. If the husband were to die, his family would be required to give a replacement male or give up all the things that was agreed upon. Women were the binding entity that joined a contract between two households.
So don't pull this marriage is religious bullshit because that is not how it started. I hate when people don't even look something up before they make such statements.
Did you also looked up that most humans earlier or in that date period you said also and always have some sort of religion and that marriage has some sort of rituals? I know some history so don't trow your wiki bullshit on me.
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venveng wrote...
Ironytaken wrote...
Marriage is no longer a religious affair. And Marriage was not started as a religious affair either.The idea of marriage can be trace back to numerous documents from the Sumerian period 2500 BC.
The gist is that women were property. A male would negotiate a contract with the future father-in-law. The contract was a guarantee from the wife's family, that the husband would have a mate from their family, or the wife's family would have to give back everything that was agreed upon. If the husband were to die, his family would be required to give a replacement male or give up all the things that was agreed upon. Women were the binding entity that joined a contract between two households.
So don't pull this marriage is religious bullshit because that is not how it started. I hate when people don't even look something up before they make such statements.
Did you also looked up that most humans earlier or in that date period you said also and always have some sort of religion and that marriage has some sort of rituals? I know some history so don't trow your wiki bullshit on me.
It's wasn't wiki bullshit. Look it up yourselves if you want. But marriage began as a contract between two households long before the bible. Sure religion used marriage for their own but cultures long ago had their own versions of marriage without having anything to do with religion.
Just look it up yourself if you want. But you should already know marriage predates the bible easily. So saying that gays shouldn't marry because of what the bible says is pointless.
I hate when people try to claim to be the creator of something that they just stole the concept of. Like how Christians stole December 25 away from the Romans and tried to claim it as their own just so they could try to stop paganism. And it seems most people today don't even know the origins of popular events they cherish.
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Also marriage between same sex was common and was practised up until the Council of Nicaea.
So there was a time when marriage between the same sex was allowed.
So there was a time when marriage between the same sex was allowed.
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Xil
Norse God of Sawdust
To every man his own. < This statement works especially well in this topic.
Life will go on if people of the same gender take advantage of marriage benefits. The only reason it would not is if people kept making a big deal out of it, after it was allowed. The ONLY reason.
Life will go on if people of the same gender take advantage of marriage benefits. The only reason it would not is if people kept making a big deal out of it, after it was allowed. The ONLY reason.
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Ironytaken wrote...
venveng wrote...
Ironytaken wrote...
Marriage is no longer a religious affair. And Marriage was not started as a religious affair either.The idea of marriage can be trace back to numerous documents from the Sumerian period 2500 BC.
The gist is that women were property. A male would negotiate a contract with the future father-in-law. The contract was a guarantee from the wife's family, that the husband would have a mate from their family, or the wife's family would have to give back everything that was agreed upon. If the husband were to die, his family would be required to give a replacement male or give up all the things that was agreed upon. Women were the binding entity that joined a contract between two households.
So don't pull this marriage is religious bullshit because that is not how it started. I hate when people don't even look something up before they make such statements.
Did you also looked up that most humans earlier or in that date period you said also and always have some sort of religion and that marriage has some sort of rituals? I know some history so don't trow your wiki bullshit on me.
It's wasn't wiki bullshit. Look it up yourselves if you want. But marriage began as a contract between two households long before the bible. Sure religion used marriage for their own but cultures long ago had their own versions of marriage without having anything to do with religion.
Just look it up yourself if you want. But you should already know marriage predates the bible easily. So saying that gays shouldn't marry because of what the bible says is pointless.
I hate when people try to claim to be the creator of something that they just stole the concept of. Like how Christians stole December 25 away from the Romans and tried to claim it as their own just so they could try to stop paganism. And it seems most people today don't even know the origins of popular events they cherish.
I can't beleive I'm about to agree with Irony on something, but religion didn't have anything to do with marriage before the bible, people just got together and drew a sort of contract between households...nobody's god was involved in it. Their UNION was usually blessed in some way or another, but that was after the fact that they agreed and signed contracts and the like.
Sure religion has been around just as long as man, but the bible itself hasn't been around for ALL that long by comparison, and people have been getting 'married' in a sense since way before the Old Testament was written.
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BigLundi wrote...
Ironytaken wrote...
venveng wrote...
Ironytaken wrote...
Marriage is no longer a religious affair. And Marriage was not started as a religious affair either.The idea of marriage can be trace back to numerous documents from the Sumerian period 2500 BC.
The gist is that women were property. A male would negotiate a contract with the future father-in-law. The contract was a guarantee from the wife's family, that the husband would have a mate from their family, or the wife's family would have to give back everything that was agreed upon. If the husband were to die, his family would be required to give a replacement male or give up all the things that was agreed upon. Women were the binding entity that joined a contract between two households.
So don't pull this marriage is religious bullshit because that is not how it started. I hate when people don't even look something up before they make such statements.
Did you also looked up that most humans earlier or in that date period you said also and always have some sort of religion and that marriage has some sort of rituals? I know some history so don't trow your wiki bullshit on me.
It's wasn't wiki bullshit. Look it up yourselves if you want. But marriage began as a contract between two households long before the bible. Sure religion used marriage for their own but cultures long ago had their own versions of marriage without having anything to do with religion.
Just look it up yourself if you want. But you should already know marriage predates the bible easily. So saying that gays shouldn't marry because of what the bible says is pointless.
I hate when people try to claim to be the creator of something that they just stole the concept of. Like how Christians stole December 25 away from the Romans and tried to claim it as their own just so they could try to stop paganism. And it seems most people today don't even know the origins of popular events they cherish.
I can't beleive I'm about to agree with Irony on something, but religion didn't have anything to do with marriage before the bible, people just got together and drew a sort of contract between households...nobody's god was involved in it. Their UNION was usually blessed in some way or another, but that was after the fact that they agreed and signed contracts and the like.
Sure religion has been around just as long as man, but the bible itself hasn't been around for ALL that long by comparison, and people have been getting 'married' in a sense since way before the Old Testament was written.
Even humans way back in 10000bc already has some sort or religion, a marriage always have some sort of rituals mostly conducted by their shamans or elders or what ever they call it and that they ask blessings for the unions from the Gods, or the sun or from nature or from the spirits of their ancestors and by that we can call it also a religion.
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venveng wrote...
Even humans way back in 10000bc already has some sort or religion, a marriage always have some sort of rituals mostly conducted by their shamans or elders or what ever they call it and that they ask blessings for the unions from the Gods, or the sun or from nature or from the spirits of their ancestors and by that we can call it also a religion.
Your evidence for this?
Also that still doesn't detract from the evidence that some cultures never used marriage in a religious way.