Indonesia/Malaysia Fault??
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heh all prob can be solve.. why? history can prove what region all dance or artifact came from. you don't have to go to war or making shit just csause some country taking some dance or something as their origin... although it's not right but indonesian should be proud cause malaysian trying to promote asean and all it's culture..
anyway it's like indonesian borrowing rap dance from america or malaysia taking anime for their economic purpose.. no big deal it's just how the world works..
what we should worry about is tha global warming and not some 'litlle' dispute cause by a dance.. should france angry over indonesian fot making crrossaint? that is a little example..
anyway it's like indonesian borrowing rap dance from america or malaysia taking anime for their economic purpose.. no big deal it's just how the world works..
what we should worry about is tha global warming and not some 'litlle' dispute cause by a dance.. should france angry over indonesian fot making crrossaint? that is a little example..
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Kaimax
Best Master-San
Qrast wrote...
anyway it's like indonesian borrowing rap dance from america or malaysia taking anime for their economic purpose.. no big deal it's just how the world works..
what we should worry about is tha global warming and not some 'litlle' dispute cause by a dance.. should france angry over indonesian fot making crrossaint? that is a little example..
you have the wrong kind of examples. All of your examples are just a form of civilization and globalization.
It's the Claims messages that's the cause of this
the most controversial one was The Reog Ponorogo dance. Many Javanese migrated to the "old" Malaysia in the Colonization years, and still practice it since then. and the problem lies in the one sided decision of Malaysian Government and art communities to claim it for themselves. Other than that everything is just a simple paranoia.
Here's the latest Paranoia
http://kazasou.wordpress.com/2009/09/08/pempek-claimed-by-malaysia-how-indonesia-became-paranoia-of-losing-their-own-culture/
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who care about that if you saying that malaysian claim are wrong then you also saying that those ancestor from jawa or something are wrong. cause they are the one that bringing in the culture from indonesia to malaysia. anywway who care if malaysia claim those dance as theirs it's not harm a bit to indonesian in fact malaysian are trying to promote various culture of the asean.
like i heard malaysian are a country of many religion and race it is normal to say that is theirs for in the patent book there are no claim for that dance.. it is just like that
history gonna prove and people will judge if malaysian or indonesian are wrong..
as long there have no war.. they can claim whatever they want and if these dance claiming are the cause for war then who want it just take it as long there are no WW3.
i don't want to die cause someone or somepeople interest.. that is just sick
like i heard malaysian are a country of many religion and race it is normal to say that is theirs for in the patent book there are no claim for that dance.. it is just like that
history gonna prove and people will judge if malaysian or indonesian are wrong..
as long there have no war.. they can claim whatever they want and if these dance claiming are the cause for war then who want it just take it as long there are no WW3.
i don't want to die cause someone or somepeople interest.. that is just sick
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Malaysian here...
Actually this is also indonesian fault at 1 side.I mean like,why don't they promote it? The malaysian promote it, use the name that is good to hear.
Wat the indonesian do? Trying to claim the fame after it was famous.
This is like example america have earlier history in cartoon, but not famous.
Then japan took it, use it, modify it and make into anime/manga. And wat the american do?
Say must lower the import of japanese comic and manga cause it is affecting the sale of america comic and cartoon.
Sry if i am too offensive.
Actually this is also indonesian fault at 1 side.I mean like,why don't they promote it? The malaysian promote it, use the name that is good to hear.
Wat the indonesian do? Trying to claim the fame after it was famous.
This is like example america have earlier history in cartoon, but not famous.
Then japan took it, use it, modify it and make into anime/manga. And wat the american do?
Say must lower the import of japanese comic and manga cause it is affecting the sale of america comic and cartoon.
Sry if i am too offensive.
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-zero-dream wrote...
Malaysian here...Actually this is also indonesian fault at 1 side.I mean like,why don't they promote it? The malaysian promote it, use the name that is good to hear.
Wat the indonesian do? Trying to claim the fame after it was famous.
This is like example america have earlier history in cartoon, but not famous.
Then japan took it, use it, modify it and make into anime/manga. And wat the american do?
Say must lower the import of japanese comic and manga cause it is affecting the sale of america comic and cartoon.
Sry if i am too offensive.
Don't worry, you're indeed right. Our government here have a slow movement, so you have the right to say that.
Lately i see a news that some Indonesian-guys-who-think-they-are-clever doing deface at some of Malaysia's site. I feel sorry for that.
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Kaimax
Best Master-San
I forgot to mention about this,
http://kazasou.wordpress.com/2009/09/12/malaysian-sweeping-in-indonesia-a-proof-of-how-insecure-indonesians-feels-about-their-heritage/
Dumb people, that when there's a real problem they'll chicken out...
BTW feel free to browse my friends blog.
http://kazasou.wordpress.com/2009/09/12/malaysian-sweeping-in-indonesia-a-proof-of-how-insecure-indonesians-feels-about-their-heritage/
Dumb people, that when there's a real problem they'll chicken out...
BTW feel free to browse my friends blog.
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mibuchiha
Fakku Elder
Kaimax wrote...
I forgot to mention about this,http://kazasou.wordpress.com/2009/09/12/malaysian-sweeping-in-indonesia-a-proof-of-how-insecure-indonesians-feels-about-their-heritage/
Dumb people, that when there's a real problem they'll chicken out...
BTW feel free to browse my friends blog.
Whoa, kai, that really sent shivers down my spine...I mean, just imagine what would happen if just one thing went wrong. Seriously this issue is taken way too seriously in the stupidest way available by them.
Btw, I'm not in the mood for a war now, especially not with some weird dance being the reason.
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Exoduz wrote...
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2009/08/23/protests-over-presence-pendet-dance-malaysia%E2%80%99s-tourism-ad-continue.htmlI just want to know,from outside Indonesia/Malaysia,so it will be fair...
thanks...
We should set aside our difference and stop the pointless arguements.
Friends shouldnt fight each other,why not share the culture?we are all from the same roots anyway. Sorry thats just my opinion
No offending others XP bad Nitori,bad..bad...*wash mouth with soap*
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Gar0u wrote...
I'm Indonesian no offense to malaysia, why they do that? Is there any prove from malaysian gov.?
most likely because about 60% of malaysian people are the descendant of indonesian poeple or maybe immigrant from indonesia. they brought indonesian culture with them. maybe malaysian gov will make them as proves.
no offense after all. -__-
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I'm Indonesian and I think that both sides are the same.
They are both two dopie to even do something about what's happened.
Indonesia's stupid for not doing anything about what's happened
and malaysia's the same for doing it the first place.
*this is what i think,no offence to both sides*
They are both two dopie to even do something about what's happened.
Indonesia's stupid for not doing anything about what's happened
and malaysia's the same for doing it the first place.
*this is what i think,no offence to both sides*
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As an Indonesian that also admire Malaysia
I'll say that both are wrong
Malaysia must not take Indonesia's Dance
And Indonesia also must try harder to protect & promote it
Nowadays Bali is even more popular than Indonesia...
I'll say that both are wrong
Malaysia must not take Indonesia's Dance
And Indonesia also must try harder to protect & promote it
Nowadays Bali is even more popular than Indonesia...
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i think that Malaysia should stop offending the Indonesian by using that false tourism ad trailer,also tourist of Malaysia could get mad because of it,by the way i am Indonesian no offense to both sides.
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MANTOR562 wrote...
i think that Malaysia should stop offending the Indonesian by using that false tourism ad trailer,also tourist of Malaysia could get mad because of it,by the way i am Indonesian no offense to both sides.Technically tourism is a game of promoting, so there are suppose not to have any offense from malaysian. Indonesian didn't promote, so why can't malaysian do? Even some of the trailer used in malaysia are indonesian-recomended who live and even migrated to malaysia.
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i'm from indonesia.....
i have a question and want to ask
1. if malaysia only want to advertise our cultur why in his contry?????
2. and why if they know that culture they patent from other country why they still patent that
~(HIDUPLAH INDONESIA RAYA)~ Trasnlite ~(LONGLIVE INDONESIA)~
Thanks ^_^
(Sory about my grammar and vocab - still learn english)
i have a question and want to ask
1. if malaysia only want to advertise our cultur why in his contry?????
2. and why if they know that culture they patent from other country why they still patent that
~(HIDUPLAH INDONESIA RAYA)~ Trasnlite ~(LONGLIVE INDONESIA)~
Thanks ^_^
(Sory about my grammar and vocab - still learn english)
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mibuchiha
Fakku Elder
Because we're of the same roots? Malays and Indonesians share too much in common lol...