Indonesia/Malaysia Fault??
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Sigh. Why do siblings always fight?
We're practically the same nation. (I'm Indonesian)
Get over it.
We're at fault cause we let another country steal our cultures.
(Heck. We didn't even realize it was ours until it was "stolen")
And they're also at fault cause they actually did it.
(Not pointing any fingers but...)
No offense to either side.
Just my humble opinion.
We're practically the same nation. (I'm Indonesian)
Get over it.
We're at fault cause we let another country steal our cultures.
(Heck. We didn't even realize it was ours until it was "stolen")
And they're also at fault cause they actually did it.
(Not pointing any fingers but...)
No offense to either side.
Just my humble opinion.
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I think both forgot that a long long time ago they were called the Malay Archipelago.
And you can also say that Malaysia is largely an immigrant country. Parameswara anyone?
And you can also say that Malaysia is largely an immigrant country. Parameswara anyone?
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both sides are wrong
Indonesia can't protect their culture properly untill malaysia starts to claim it
and
Malaysia... well why they want to steal it in the first place? Are they want to start a war with Indonesia?
Sorry for the bad english cuz i'm indonesian
Indonesia can't protect their culture properly untill malaysia starts to claim it
and
Malaysia... well why they want to steal it in the first place? Are they want to start a war with Indonesia?
Sorry for the bad english cuz i'm indonesian
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Holy crap some idiotic indoesians(the so-called-BENDERA ppl) intend to attack Malaysia for this topic!!!
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mibuchiha
Fakku Elder
Richardz_m wrote...
Do they want to start a war with Indonesia?I'm not in any way supporting malaysia's action...I couldn't care less about this small issue but....
To go to a war just because of some insignificant cultural dance is plain stupid. Even the thought of doing so is.
There's so much ways of solving the problem that don't involve violence, even if you must rage because of the dance.
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-zero-dream wrote...
Holy crap some idiotic indoesians(the so-called-BENDERA ppl) intend to attack Malaysia for this topic!!!WTF for a culture INDONESIA people want to attack MALAYSIA what happen to this cruel world ohhhh, MALAYSIA PEOPLE GIVE BACK THEIR CULTURE TO STOP THE ATTACK.
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Richardz_m wrote...
both sides are wrongIndonesia can't protect their culture properly untill malaysia starts to claim it
and
Malaysia... well why they want to steal it in the first place? Are they want to start a war with Indonesia?
Sorry for the bad english cuz i'm indonesian
Agreed.
It same to this :
Indonesia put their money on the street without no one guarding it. Malaysia come and take the money.
So, both are fault
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DEMON COMIT A SIN wrote...
-zero-dream wrote...
Holy crap some idiotic indoesians(the so-called-BENDERA ppl) intend to attack Malaysia for this topic!!!WTF for a culture INDONESIA people want to attack MALAYSIA what happen to this cruel world ohhhh, MALAYSIA PEOPLE GIVE BACK THEIR CULTURE TO STOP THE ATTACK.
Like hell they will not declare war if we give back. No offense but some indonesian are juz plain stupid go on war for this stupid reason.
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hey, malaysia country you do not mess with Indonesia state, if the life you want is still safe. we give the opportunity only just this once, [size=12]the rest we will destroy you without remaining[/h].
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irchamni wrote...
hey, malaysia country you do not mess with Indonesia state, if the life you want is still safe. we give the opportunity only just this once, [size=12]the rest we will destroy you without remaining[/h]. Please relise that many indonesian work in malaysia so the some childish(Bendera and other offensive) indonesian can just shut up if they have nothing to do.
Look at our(Malaysian) Helicopter landing in Padang for helping the disaster site and victim. Wat they get? Barrage of stone are thrown to them.
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(mengeluh)
Kenapa perlu bergaduh sampai begini sekali?
Kita kan negara serumpun. Malaysia dan Indonesia dekat sahaja.
Sebabkan kesilapan publisiti, berperang mulut kedua-duanya.
Mahukah anda mengulangi sejarah hitam negara?
Kita perlu saling bermaaf-maafan, "give and take".(<-- apa ni? ini english la)
Kita perlu belajar daripada kesilapan kita...
(I think both Malaysia and Indonesian can understand what I'm writing here. This shows that eventhough our culture may be different, our language does not different at all. So, with all due respect, this is like a siblings feud.)
...I think the media is at fault here. Which media?
the media at BOTH country.
Let the media rant what they want. they just tempting and agonize it's viewer, so they can make a new story and "big scoop" based on what they catalyzed.
This is my opinion.
Sorry for those who cannot read the above description.
oh another thing, where do you think i lived? :P
Kenapa perlu bergaduh sampai begini sekali?
Kita kan negara serumpun. Malaysia dan Indonesia dekat sahaja.
Sebabkan kesilapan publisiti, berperang mulut kedua-duanya.
Mahukah anda mengulangi sejarah hitam negara?
Kita perlu saling bermaaf-maafan, "give and take".(<-- apa ni? ini english la)
Kita perlu belajar daripada kesilapan kita...
(I think both Malaysia and Indonesian can understand what I'm writing here. This shows that eventhough our culture may be different, our language does not different at all. So, with all due respect, this is like a siblings feud.)
...I think the media is at fault here. Which media?
the media at BOTH country.
Let the media rant what they want. they just tempting and agonize it's viewer, so they can make a new story and "big scoop" based on what they catalyzed.
This is my opinion.
Sorry for those who cannot read the above description.
oh another thing, where do you think i lived? :P
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Malaysia fellow, and i agree with what u say.
BUT there is some stupid fellow like the one on top always appear.
BUT there is some stupid fellow like the one on top always appear.
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They are similar disputes like this even about a song.i think it was rasa sayang.
I think its best to forget about it since all you get in the end is "yay we wasted time claiming a part of our culture when we could have use the time and money to better our countries".
I think its best to forget about it since all you get in the end is "yay we wasted time claiming a part of our culture when we could have use the time and money to better our countries".
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Argentine wrote...
They are similar disputes like this even about a song.i think it was rasa sayang.I think its best to forget about it since all you get in the end is "yay we wasted time claiming a part of our culture when we could have use the time and money to better our countries".
Agree, wasting money for court fight over claim of culture stuff.
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idah wrote...
(mengeluh)Kenapa perlu bergaduh sampai begini sekali?
Kita kan negara serumpun. Malaysia dan Indonesia dekat sahaja.
Sebabkan kesilapan publisiti, berperang mulut kedua-duanya.
Mahukah anda mengulangi sejarah hitam negara?
Kita perlu saling bermaaf-maafan, "give and take".(<-- apa ni? ini english la)
Kita perlu belajar daripada kesilapan kita...
(I think both Malaysia and Indonesian can understand what I'm writing here. This shows that eventhough our culture may be different, our language does not different at all. So, with all due respect, this is like a siblings feud.)
...I think the media is at fault here. Which media?
the media at BOTH country.
Let the media rant what they want. they just tempting and agonize it's viewer, so they can make a new story and "big scoop" based on what they catalyzed.
This is my opinion.
Sorry for those who cannot read the above description.
oh another thing, where do you think i lived? :P
Translating for people that not understand...
*sigh*
Why we must fight like this?
We are almost like brother. And we are really close.
Because of the media, we are insulting each other
Do you want to replay our dark history?
We must forgive each other, "give and take"
We must study from our fault...
That's all :D
If the war happen I will surely run to other country...
Because this is a stupid fight >_>
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hey, can you let someone steal on your cake that you've saved for a special time? well, it's true that Indonesian tourism ministry is a bit incompetent compared with Singapore and Malaysia, but can you imagine how to fully manage a nation with almost 17.000 island? You Malaysians just have at most a hundred of island. Indonesia is just simply have amazing culture and nature, but it needs some time to claim it all as our national product.
while we're still at progress, please don't take the cake from us. we're all brother's right?
<--- Indonesian, Javanese
while we're still at progress, please don't take the cake from us. we're all brother's right?
<--- Indonesian, Javanese
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mibuchiha
Fakku Elder
rokushou wrote...
while we're still at progress, please don't take the cake from us. we're all brother's right?I'm not saying this as a malaysian as I hate the country, but whatever. I'll play this your way.
We're brothers, right? Then why the hell do you bitch at just some cakes being taken? To go even further, your people that come here to work are very problematic. Competence issues, crimes and stuff. Mind training them so that they won't be a problem here?
Spoiler:
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mibuchiha wrote....
to begin with,this-culture-in-topic is not a simple cake. It's something that we must protect. The truth is , I'm an Indonesian and i don't like many other Indonesian,still i don't want other people look down at us. I don't agree with your-bad-mouth-way to Indonesian,but i agree about work on their manner.
even no offense at all , both side must think carefully about this.
We're brothers, right? Then why the hell do you bitch at just some cakes being taken? To go even further, your people that come here to work are very problematic. Competence issues, crimes and stuff. Mind training them so that they won't be a problem here?
to begin with,this-culture-in-topic is not a simple cake. It's something that we must protect. The truth is , I'm an Indonesian and i don't like many other Indonesian,still i don't want other people look down at us. I don't agree with your-bad-mouth-way to Indonesian,but i agree about work on their manner.
even no offense at all , both side must think carefully about this.
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mibuchiha
Fakku Elder
@Garou: Lol, I'm in no way thinking about badmouthing you guys...what i wanted to say is that this kinda stuff is not worth bitching about. Both countries got much more important issues to deal with. I don't agree with what malaysia did, but neither do I to indonesia's rage. by the way, in what way would what malaysia did will affect indonesia anyway? it's not like that mere ad can stop you guys from practicing that culture. there are ways to protect cultures, and I don't think this is one of them. You can have millions of cultural patents, but if you don't practice it, it's still not your culture.