Is suicide wrong?

You have yet to address my main point. God created Satan > Satan creates hell ( using his God given power ) > Satan makes people evil ( again using his God given power ). And lets say God realizes the mistake of creating Satan? What has he done to rectify his mistake, besides letting humanity fend for itself? InB4 Rapture, why wait 2000+ years if you plan on doing it? However, I will agree with you that this thread has gone off topic. Don't kill yourselves kids, people will call you a quitter and laugh at you.

Er, yea, kill yourself if you think it's awwwwright.

Agreed. To each his own.

Actually I'm just gonna take this down.

Ah man... arrived late for the discussion...

Oh well...

/loves theological discussions

agreed.

the one thing i cant help but point out is everyone sees "god" as human. superior and rather powerful but human. your description of him states otherwise yet when talking about him hes suposed to even have emotions (like wrath, oh wait thats a deadly sin yet aparently it was hip for him to be wrathfull in the old testament.) assuming your "god" exists the way you state him to be then you must also accept that most of what you say about him is false. just as the true size of the universe is completely incomprehensable to us so to would your gods method of thought or sensory input. if you believe your scriptures 100% then his very existence as told is contradictory. you know what? im opening a new thread.

Honestly, I believe you should be able to live if you choose to. Suicide, i believe, is a choice; if you want to live then you live, if not then you commit suicide.

For me suicide is just wrong. Are you thinking like
“There’s no Hope anymore” + I’d rather die
“I can’t do this” + I’d rather die
“This is meaningless” + I’d rather die

That is wasting the life your parents gave you.

As long as we live there will always be hope. Just cut off the negative things you do or negative things you think. Think Positive.

Suicide huh? It will instantly cut of your bonds and will make that bonds cry.

So no no suicide okay? ^ - ^

The one thing I cant help point out is that people are believing that we all believe in this "god".

I have, nor ever will.

I do not try to base morals off of a religious base. Suicide, in my opinion, is not wrong in the sense that someone shouldnt be able to do it, but it does have an impact on the people around you.

I do not wish people to commit suicide, I actually would much rather have you not do it should you ever get yourself int that situation. I would give anything to have my friend back from 8th grade, but he committed suicide. Nothing I can do about it. It was his choice, I dont think it was the right thing to do at his age due to early teenager-angst and irrational thought, but it was a choice he made.

So basically in the sense of the choice to, I dont think its wrong, but I do not believe it should be done, ever.

THe ONLY time I ever see suicide as a correct choice is if youre at the point of no return, a situation where you are dying and theres no way to get better (ie, you get shot in the neck/it hits your artery or get a major part of your body cut off and you dont want to go through a painful death.)

Any other reason, like my wife died/children died/life sucks/lost a match of Halo..... is just plain fucking tupid and youre an idiot if you think suicide is the answer.

If living is worse than dying then go on and kill yourself if its for that reason I dont think that suicide is wrong. However, I do feel that its wrong to die for stupid and lame reasons, to a point that its like a joke Mass Suicide (lmao). I wouldnt stop people from committing suicide if they are adamant on doing as it would be a waste of my time to convince that living is better.

If there is a god its a sin and you will go to hell for more and worse pain..if there isnt a god when you die you probably go to nonexistence like sleeping or something...i dont think that any of those is better than being in pain

Wrong? No. They can do what they like.

Stupid? Yes. What kind of fucking moron would rather die then attempt to fix whatever (probably stupid) thing is bothering them? I'll never feel sorry for people who do that regardless of why. Even if some horrible things have happened, just think that it probably won't get worse then.

Most people who kill themselves do so based on emotion, not on logic. Someone severely depressed is not thinking rationally. Ever wondered why people do stupid things when too happy or too sad or too angry? Thats because of that.

So yeah, I dont know what my point is, but I think hating those who have tried/killed themselves has become some sort of cool thing to do, and that makes me sick.

I was suicidal once...about 3 years ago. My only friends either left town or stopped hanging out with me. My parents informed me that even though I had no job, I would soon be forced to pay rent in order to stay in either of their houses. I was doing bad i school because I couldn't conentrate, and to me, all I could see was a future of misery. So yeah I thought about killing myself, even went onto the roof of my mom's house and contemplated the idea of divig heairst into the pavement.

I then thought about it for a second and realized that I wouldn't be the only one affected by my death. Sure I felt like myfamily didn't care for me, but why else would they have bothered raisig me if they didn't care to some degree?

I knew if I killed myself I wouldn't just be taking the coward's way out, but I'd be leavig everyone behind because I'm selfish enough to think, "Well my life sucks, so I'll just end it, fuck what anyone else thinks."

Is it wrong? To some extent. Is it justified? Sometimes...it all depends on the individual and their situation really.

I too, kind of find people who judge the dead more stupid then attempting to suicide. Seriously, picking on the dead just because he cant rebuttal? Who are us to judge the people who suicide, each and every one of our life principles varies and yours does not apply to another person. Since you could not experience their life, you should not judge them, your choices in life IF you suicide does not imply on them.
Who are you without knowledge of anyhow lives of the once lived should qualify to honestly claim that they are stupid to the core. How come many accepted gay relationship in society because they thought of being in their shoes, rather then judge that they are stupid and retard. Then why does everyone not seem to put their foot in the poor guy's shoe? Not accepting it and throwing signs of stupidity on someone who suicide, because they are not alive to rebuttal?

And I might add that not all suicides are by emotional shit. Logical thinking does come in process, no one with a obvious right mind would jump off a building without considering their options, it is AFTER consulting their logical thinking that they have remain no options so they jump. You may just say oh hell I could easily help him as an option but yeah how fcked up this world is if that is always an option AFTER the result.

If i sound offensive, please note that i am not, its just my way of saying somethings I disagree on.

I actually did attempt suicide, but obviously failed in the attempt. (Wrecked the car doing it.)

The only thing that I can say is that people who choose this path aren't really concerned with the right or wrong of the act. To these people, there is no way out. (Well, there might, but they can't think of one or act on it.) Sometimes, when you're on that precipice with anxiety, misery, and hopelessness floating all around you, it's easier to do the easy thing than the harder thing.

Choosing a quick way out qualifies as the easy thing. And mankind has always been about doing the easier things in life.

It is for the living to put the right or wrong label on others. Those who died have already found some measure of peace. Perhaps it is wrong, but they'll never be able to tell us.

If one where to commit suicide and involve others in it, that is completely wrong. I read a story on CNN where a fat woman tried to commit suicide in the mall by jumping off the 3rd floor, but instead she landed on a teenager who was sitting in a massage chair below her and killed him but the woman was still alive. Or all those kill your family then yourself suicides that happened last year.

My belief in suicide is, if you commit suicide because you think your life sucks, that makes you a pussy and coward. However if you commit suicide for a noble reason or if it has something to do with beliefs (ex. seppukku) then go ahead, go and fulfill your purpose in suicide.