Who do you want to win the 2012 U.S. Presidential election?
Who do you want to win for 2012?
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I know it might be a bit early to be asking but with all the presidential debates going on I just have to ask. Who do you want to win the 2012 U.S. Presidential election? Why? If not to win, who do you most agree with? I will list only the most popular candidates. Anyone else can be categorized into Other. All candidates listed here will be based off of the declared candidate list on http://2012.presidential-candidates.org/
My vote is for Ron Paul. His views on smaller government, foreign policy, economics, and social issues just make sense. He seems to present himself as a man that is motivated by the constitution and sound principles rather than money and fame. People say he is unelectable but that is clearly not the case when he has been re-elected into congress 11 times. He also doesn't change his principles and beliefs based on his audience. He seems much less concerned with winning than he is with the actual issues. The media has also proven to be afraid of him. Fox news has altered and manipulated polls and video clips to try and discredit this man. He wins second in the Iowa straw poll and he is rarely even mentioned in the media. The polls released by Fox never show Ron Paul winning, despite the numerous polls where he wins in a landslide. The try to turn the online polls around by saying that the majority of Ron Paul supporters are internet users but they are a small group. Everything about Ron Paul just sounds like a good idea and the fact that the media is so afraid of him makes it all the more sweeter.
My vote is for Ron Paul. His views on smaller government, foreign policy, economics, and social issues just make sense. He seems to present himself as a man that is motivated by the constitution and sound principles rather than money and fame. People say he is unelectable but that is clearly not the case when he has been re-elected into congress 11 times. He also doesn't change his principles and beliefs based on his audience. He seems much less concerned with winning than he is with the actual issues. The media has also proven to be afraid of him. Fox news has altered and manipulated polls and video clips to try and discredit this man. He wins second in the Iowa straw poll and he is rarely even mentioned in the media. The polls released by Fox never show Ron Paul winning, despite the numerous polls where he wins in a landslide. The try to turn the online polls around by saying that the majority of Ron Paul supporters are internet users but they are a small group. Everything about Ron Paul just sounds like a good idea and the fact that the media is so afraid of him makes it all the more sweeter.
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Tegumi wrote...
Sure is Republican candidates in here.Well isn't Barrack Obama by default the Democratic nominee? And realistically every other non-republican hopeful a irrelevant?
*Personally, I'm going to write in myself.
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animefreak_usa
Child of Samael
Nader/Maldonado: Selling North Dakota and Montana to Canada for free healthcare.
To tell the truth all, but Huntsman and Romney in the rep party are illiterate, batshit, and worthless candidates. Obama isn't the right man neither but he better then the rest... Where the real Republicans like my forefather voted for... the Lincolns, the Eisenhowers, the Goldwater Republicans.. people who follow the true ideals of what the republican party was for.
To tell the truth all, but Huntsman and Romney in the rep party are illiterate, batshit, and worthless candidates. Obama isn't the right man neither but he better then the rest... Where the real Republicans like my forefather voted for... the Lincolns, the Eisenhowers, the Goldwater Republicans.. people who follow the true ideals of what the republican party was for.
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Everyone I know absolutely loves Ron Paul, though they don't think he'll become president. I would rather have rick perry represent the republicans, since he might win, whereas Ron Paul would lose to Obama. I hate how the media does everything to make guys like Ron look bad, but that's the cost of giving the people what they need instead of what they want.
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Lelouch24 wrote...
Everyone I know absolutely loves Ron Paul, though they don't think he'll become president. I would rather have rick perry represent the republicans, since he might win, whereas Ron Paul would lose to Obama. I hate how the media does everything to make guys like Ron look bad, but that's the cost of giving the people what they need instead of what they want.I really hate the notion that Ron Paul can't beat Obama and how un-electable he is. It simply isn't true. There have been polls done pitting Ron Paul against Obama and Ron Paul either wins them or comes within 1% of winning. These polls also show that out of all the GOP candidates, Ron Paul does the best against Obama.
I will not be basing my vote on who is likely to win. Even if Ron Paul doesn't win the GOP primary, I will be writing him in. He is the only intelligent choice.
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Jash2o2 wrote...
Lelouch24 wrote...
Everyone I know absolutely loves Ron Paul, though they don't think he'll become president. I would rather have rick perry represent the republicans, since he might win, whereas Ron Paul would lose to Obama. I hate how the media does everything to make guys like Ron look bad, but that's the cost of giving the people what they need instead of what they want.I really hate the notion that Ron Paul can't beat Obama and how un-electable he is. It simply isn't true. There have been polls done pitting Ron Paul against Obama and Ron Paul either wins them or comes within 1% of winning. These polls also show that out of all the GOP candidates, Ron Paul does the best against Obama.
I will not be basing my vote on who is likely to win. Even if Ron Paul doesn't win the GOP primary, I will be writing him in. He is the only intelligent choice.
depending on the legitimacy of the poll, it sounds like Ron Paul has some hope. I don't watch the news that much, I let other people I trust do that for me.
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I'm about as politically minded as the next person, ie; not much, but it really makes me feel uneasy that the first time I get to vote it's going to be for people like this.
I'm really at an impasse, and I need to do a lot more thinking before I can even begin to think about who gets my vote.
I'm really at an impasse, and I need to do a lot more thinking before I can even begin to think about who gets my vote.
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Ron Paul and most of the republican candidates are, frankly, utter loons. I do hope they never get to be in charge of our country.
I honestly want HRC to run again, but she has most emphatically stated that she will not. Sadness. She's doing such a great job as SoS and I'm pretty sure she would be a good president.
I honestly want HRC to run again, but she has most emphatically stated that she will not. Sadness. She's doing such a great job as SoS and I'm pretty sure she would be a good president.
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Nekohime wrote...
Ron Paul and most of the republican candidates are, frankly, utter loons. I do hope they never get to be in charge of our country.I honestly want HRC to run again, but she has most emphatically stated that she will not. Sadness. She's doing such a great job as SoS and I'm pretty sure she would be a good president.
[font=verdana][color=green]Now now, you know that America couldn't face two historic-Democrats in a row; the Deep South would have a heart attack at the thought!
But in all seriousness though, I think that, speaking as a Englishman, Obama would be a good choice for a second term. From what I can tell, he hasn't done anything to really piss the rest of the world off, which can only be a good thing, right?
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Honestly I doubt I'm going to vote this time. Needs new blood, but I have yet to see a Republican candidate who doesn't spew off one thing, and clearly have a conservative-based agenda, which is the absolute last thing this country needs. That isn't to say that the Democrats don't do the same thing, but I think an increasing liberal stance in this country, while not necessarily better, certainly won't be as detrimental as one conservative.
That said, if anyone here on Fakku chooses Bachmann, trolling or not, I will find you and I will kick your ass to the moon. Unless you are a sadist who wants to be considered a common criminal (on par with child molesters) just because you like hentai or anything else not stringently agreed upon by the most right-wing Fascist church groups.
That said, if anyone here on Fakku chooses Bachmann, trolling or not, I will find you and I will kick your ass to the moon. Unless you are a sadist who wants to be considered a common criminal (on par with child molesters) just because you like hentai or anything else not stringently agreed upon by the most right-wing Fascist church groups.
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SamRavster wrote...
Nekohime wrote...
Ron Paul and most of the republican candidates are, frankly, utter loons. I do hope they never get to be in charge of our country.I honestly want HRC to run again, but she has most emphatically stated that she will not. Sadness. She's doing such a great job as SoS and I'm pretty sure she would be a good president.
[font=verdana][color=green]Now now, you know that America couldn't face two historic-Democrats in a row; the Deep South would have a heart attack at the thought!
But in all seriousness though, I think that, speaking as a Englishman, Obama would be a good choice for a second term. From what I can tell, he hasn't done anything to really piss the rest of the world off, which can only be a good thing, right?
Obama has definitely pissed off some countries, mostly in the Middle East, by continuing the Bush wars and adding on to them with the whole Libya issue. But he is the lesser (least?) evil in this case when compared to the nutjobs like Paul, Bachmann, Santorum, Palin, and Perry.
Tsurayu wrote...
That said, if anyone here on Fakku chooses Bachmann, trolling or not, I will find you and I will kick your ass to the moon. Unless you are a sadist who wants to be considered a common criminal (on par with child molesters) just because you like hentai or anything else not stringently agreed upon by the most right-wing Fascist church groups. Someone here voted Rick Perry, and Perry's as much of a bible- and moral-fag as Bachmann is.
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Nekohime wrote...
Ron Paul and most of the republican candidates are, frankly, utter loons. I do hope they never get to be in charge of our country.I honestly want HRC to run again, but she has most emphatically stated that she will not. Sadness. She's doing such a great job as SoS and I'm pretty sure she would be a good president.
I would like to know why you think Ron Paul is an utter loon. To say such a thing essentially means you also think that liberty and the constitution is loony. Ron Paul thinks of the constitution as it was meant to be. It was made to restrict the government, not to empower it. Ron Paul seems to be the only politician I know of that realizes that if it doesn't directly give a power to the government, then they have no right to that power. Every other politician seems to think if it isn't specified in the constitution then it is free game.
Quite frankly I don't know which of Ron Paul's policies you think is loony. I agree with him on just about everything. If you could elaborate on why you disapprove of Ron Paul, that would be great.
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Nekohime wrote...
SamRavster wrote...
[font=verdana][color=green]Now now, you know that America couldn't face two historic-Democrats in a row; the Deep South would have a heart attack at the thought! But in all seriousness though, I think that, speaking as a Englishman, Obama would be a good choice for a second term. From what I can tell, he hasn't done anything to really piss the rest of the world off, which can only be a good thing, right?
Obama has definitely pissed off some countries, mostly in the Middle East, by continuing the Bush wars and adding on to them with the whole Libya issue. But he is the lesser (least?) evil in this case when compared to the nutjobs like Paul, Bachmann, Santorum, Palin, and Perry.
[font=verdana][color=green]Well, to be fair, that pissing off is merely an extension of Bush's initial pissing off. If he were to pull out suddenly, then Obama will be pissing off every country, including the Afghan National Army, that's involved in the war. And again, the whole Libya issue was kinda essential; if he hadn't stepped in, with Britain, France and other countries, then he would have been seen as a coward who turns a blind eye to the world's problems. He couldn't win either way, so he might as well do the one that makes him look, somewhat, good.
Jash2o2 wrote...
I would like to know why you think Ron Paul is an utter loon. To say such a thing essentially means you also think that liberty and the constitution is loony.[font=verdana][color=green]And this is the biggest load of reducio ad absurdium I've heard in a long time. Are you seriously insinuating that, under Obama's rule, that you've had liberty stripped from you?
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[font=verdana][color=green]And this is the biggest load of reducio ad absurdium I've heard in a long time. Are you seriously insinuating that, under Obama's rule, that you've had liberty stripped from you?
How did you come to that conclusion? I wasn't saying we have no liberty under Obama, I'm saying Ron Paul supports liberty more so than any other politician I have seen in a long time. Every politician I have seen for a long time has been a smooth talker with nothing more than empty promises. Ron Paul isn't like that. I was saying that I don't understand how someone can say they truly believe in liberty and yet disagree with Ron Paul. No one has yet to give me a clear reason as to why they disagree with Ron Paul other than that they think he is loony.
Did you know that Ron Paul ran in 2008 simply to spread his message? He didn't take it seriously then because he didn't realize how much support he would get. Let me tell you, it was a lot more than he thought. A man that runs for president to spread his message tells me that he is a man that doesn't have a hidden agenda. He doesn't run for money or power, but because he wants to spread the ideals the men behind the constitution had. Liberty and freedom for ALL, not just for the rich and the corporations.
Why is it that the notion of liberty is seen as crazy? Why is it that when the idea of being able to do what you want, as long as it does not infringe upon the rights of others, is mentioned people see it as radical? Do you really think it would be a bad thing to liquidate our debt, eliminate 40+ years of bad economic policy, bring our troops home from all over the world, and let people have the ability to be responsible for themselves rather than relying on a government to tell them what they can or can not do? It's time we quit this! It's trillions of dollars we're spending on these wars! Oops, sorry that was Ron Paul's words, not mine.
Sorry to attack you so much, but it's not just you. There are a lot of people that are so used to the status quo that they are too afraid to try something different for once.
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SamRavster wrote...
Jash2o2 wrote...
I would like to know why you think Ron Paul is an utter loon. To say such a thing essentially means you also think that liberty and the constitution is loony.[font=verdana][color=green]And this is the biggest load of reducio ad absurdium I've heard in a long time. Are you seriously insinuating that, under Obama's rule, that you've had liberty stripped from you?
Funnily enough, he gave a doozy of a speech the other week where he talked about all the liberties which Bush undoubtedly did strip from the American people...only to go on to suggest a cack-handed solution to Guantanamo, via indefinite detention somewhere else. Except this one may put the framework in place to do it to anyone.
Not that I disagree with the notion that Ron Paul is an idiot; he fails to realise that society has changed slightly in the couple hundred years since the constitution was authored. 'Liberty' equates to abandonment.
Anyway, Obama's biggest problems are at home, by far. Economic recovery and employment have been going at a snail's pace and fuel prices, while still many times cheaper than in Europe, are rising considerably and placing the strain on an underdeveloped public transport system.
To be honest, the Republicans have lost even if they get best-scenario Romney to run, who will have his own problems with attracting votes. Ron Paul and Rick Perry are both nutjobs; Perry's lunacy is only masked by state figures which flatter to deceive. Most growth in Texas has come from negligible temporary fixes and the government help which he pledges to cut out.
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doswillrule wrote...
SamRavster wrote...
Jash2o2 wrote...
I would like to know why you think Ron Paul is an utter loon. To say such a thing essentially means you also think that liberty and the constitution is loony.[font=verdana][color=green]And this is the biggest load of reducio ad absurdium I've heard in a long time. Are you seriously insinuating that, under Obama's rule, that you've had liberty stripped from you?
Funnily enough, he gave a doozy of a speech the other week where he talked about all the liberties which Bush undoubtedly did strip from the American people...only to go on to suggest a cack-handed solution to Guantanamo, via indefinite detention somewhere else. Except this one may put the framework in place to do it to anyone.
Not that I disagree with the notion that Ron Paul is an idiot; he fails to realise that society has changed slightly in the couple hundred years since the constitution was authored. 'Liberty' equates to abandonment.
First off, could you post a link to that speech? I'd like to hear that for myself.
Secondly, you say he has failed to realize that society has changed since the constitution came about? How is that? I think he knows perfectly well. He realizes that the problems we have now are because we haven't been constitutional. You act as if the men that wrote the constitution were idiots. Liberty equates to abandonment? Could you elaborate just a bit?
I would really like you to lay out the reasons as to why you think Ron Paul is an idiot, but first I would like you to watch something.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R61qu4vNXgo&list=FLcI01AB4KzumsuILLboebAw&index=4
I'd suggest that if you really believe that Ron Paul is an idiot to message the guy in that video. I'd like to see his response.
Edit: To be perfectly honest, I think that all of the people that say Ron Paul is loony do so only because that is what they have heard from the mainstream media. I don't believe that they have actually put in the time to research him and what he really stands for.
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Jash2o2 wrote...
Quite frankly I don't know which of Ron Paul's policies you think is loony. I agree with him on just about everything. If you could elaborate on why you disapprove of Ron Paul, that would be great.Do I have to? It will take me all fucking day. I can sum it up in one sentence--libertarianism is loony.
But here are some of the more egregious issues:
Abolishing the EPA--absolutely fucking bad idea. If you leave environmental protections up to the state, it's not like the states with higher protections benefit from those if they share a border with states with lower standards. Pollution doesn't respect state borders, doncha know. We're all breathing the same air here, and there have to be federal minimum regulations for what we can do to the environment.
He is anti-abortion. Banning abortion or "leaving it up to states" is a bad idea because it does not do anything to reduce abortion rates; it just ups the number of illegal and unsafe abortions, making it even more dangerous for women and fetuses. Abortions are a medical issue and should just be between the doctor and the woman. Also, the best way of reducing the abortion rate is by increasing contraception, something that Ron Paul does not endorse.
His belief that Global Warming is a manufactured crisis--um, no. Just look at the mountains of scientific literature about the acidification of the oceans and the effect of rising temperatures on wildlife. It's a serious problem, and although I do agree with him that the way we're currently fixing it does not help much, doing nothing is worse.
Returning to gold standards--it's not a workable system. Better economists have explained this, so just look it up.
Healthcare--Obamacare is a mess, but less of a mess than what Paul is proposing. Tax breaks for paying for healthcare? End of HMO and other insurance company monopolies? Sure! However that still leaves the fact that many people, tax break or not, cannot afford healthcare. The best solution would be socialized healthcare like the NHS. There are many models of successful socialized healthcare around the world, which America can emulate. Each has its own problems, sure, but they're all still better than the current clusterfuck.
Elimination of the IRS and income tax--again, unworkable and illogical. A progressive tax system is the fairest.
Anyway, more eloquent people have written about it, so here, have an article (very old, but still relevant, I think) about why Paul's views are loony.
http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2007/12/ron_paul_quackery_enabler.php
edit: To reply to your point about getting the facts from the MSM, nope. I get 'em straight from his website and they still sound loony as fuck.
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Abolishing the EPA--absolutely fucking bad idea. If you leave environmental protections up to the state, it's not like the states with higher protections benefit from those if they share a border with states with lower standards. Pollution doesn't respect state borders, doncha know. We're all breathing the same air here, and there have to be federal minimum regulations for what we can do to the environment.
This interview on the matter should be enough for you but if not, then we must simply agree to disagree.
What makes you the strongest candidate on energy and the environment?
...On environment, governments don't have a good reputation for doing a good job protecting the environment. If you look at the extreme of socialism or communism, they were very poor environmentalists. Private property owners have a much better record of taking care of the environment. If you look at the common ownership of the lands in the West, they're much more poorly treated than those that are privately owned. In a free-market system, nobody is permitted to pollute their neighbor's private property -- water, air, or land. It is very strict.
But there are realms of the environment that, by definition, can't be owned, right? How would you divide the sky or the sea into private parcels?
The air can certainly be identified. If you have a mill next door to me, you don't have a right to pollute my air -- that can be properly defined by property rights. Water: if you're on a river you certainly can define it, if you're on a lake you certainly can define it. Even oceans can be defined by international agreements. You can be very strict with it. If it is air that crosses a boundary between Canada and the United States, you would have to have two governments come together, voluntarily solving these problems.
Can you elaborate on when government intervention is and isn't appropriate?
Certainly, any time there's injury to another person, another person's land, or another person's environment, there's [legal] recourse with the government.
What do you see as the role of the Environmental Protection Agency?
You wouldn't need it. Environmental protection in the U.S. should function according to the same premise as "prior restraint" in a newspaper. Newspapers can't print anything that's a lie. There has to be recourse. But you don't invite the government in to review every single thing that the print media does with the assumption they might do something wrong. The EPA assumes you might do something wrong; it's a bureaucratic, intrusive approach and it favors those who have political connections.
Is it appropriate for the government to regulate toxic or dangerous materials, like lead in children's toys?
If a toy company is doing something dangerous, they're liable and they should be held responsible. The government should hold them responsible, but not be the inspector. The government can't inspect every single toy that comes into the country.
So you see it as the legal system that brings about environmental protection?
Right. Some of this stuff can be handled locally with a government. I was raised in the city of Pittsburgh. It was the filthiest city in the country because it was a steel town. You couldn't even see the sun on a sunny day. Then it was cleaned up -- not by the EPA, by local authorities that said you don't have a right to pollute -- and the government cleaned it up and the city's a beautiful city. You don't need this huge bureaucracy that's remote from the problem. Pittsburgh dealt with it in a local fashion and it worked out quite well.
What if you're part of a community that's getting dumped on, but you don't have the time or the money to sue the offending polluter?
Imagine that everyone living in one suburb, rather than using regular trash service, were taking their household trash to the next town over and simply tossing it in the yards of those living in the nearby town. Is there any question that legal mechanisms are in place to remedy this action? In principle, your concerns are no different, except that, for a good number of years, legislatures and courts have failed to enforce the property rights of those being dumped on with respect to certain forms of pollution. This form of government failure has persisted since the industrial revolution when, in the name of so-called progress, certain forms of pollution were legally tolerated or ignored to benefit some popular regional employer or politically popular entity.
When all forms of physical trespass, be that smoke, particulate matter, etc., are legally recognized for what they are -- a physical trespass upon the property and rights of another -- concerns about difficulty in suing the offending party will be largely diminished. When any such cases are known to be slam-dunk wins for the person whose property is being polluted, those doing the polluting will no longer persist in doing so. Against a backdrop of property rights actually enforced, contingency and class-action cases are additional legal mechanisms that resolve this concern.
Do you think it should be illegal to emit harmful pollutants?
You should be held responsible in a court of law and you should be able to be closed down if you're damaging your neighbor's property in any way whatsoever.
Who would set the law about what pollutants could and couldn't be emitted? Congress?
Not under my presidency -- the Congress wouldn't do it. The people who claim damage would have to say, look, I'm sitting here, and these poisons are coming over, and I can prove it, and I want it stopped, and I want compensation.
You've described your opposition to wars for oil as an example of your support for eco-friendly policies. Can you elaborate?
Generally speaking, war causes pollution -- uranium, burning of fuel for no good purpose. The Pentagon burns more fuel than the whole country of Sweden.
...On environment, governments don't have a good reputation for doing a good job protecting the environment. If you look at the extreme of socialism or communism, they were very poor environmentalists. Private property owners have a much better record of taking care of the environment. If you look at the common ownership of the lands in the West, they're much more poorly treated than those that are privately owned. In a free-market system, nobody is permitted to pollute their neighbor's private property -- water, air, or land. It is very strict.
But there are realms of the environment that, by definition, can't be owned, right? How would you divide the sky or the sea into private parcels?
The air can certainly be identified. If you have a mill next door to me, you don't have a right to pollute my air -- that can be properly defined by property rights. Water: if you're on a river you certainly can define it, if you're on a lake you certainly can define it. Even oceans can be defined by international agreements. You can be very strict with it. If it is air that crosses a boundary between Canada and the United States, you would have to have two governments come together, voluntarily solving these problems.
Can you elaborate on when government intervention is and isn't appropriate?
Certainly, any time there's injury to another person, another person's land, or another person's environment, there's [legal] recourse with the government.
What do you see as the role of the Environmental Protection Agency?
You wouldn't need it. Environmental protection in the U.S. should function according to the same premise as "prior restraint" in a newspaper. Newspapers can't print anything that's a lie. There has to be recourse. But you don't invite the government in to review every single thing that the print media does with the assumption they might do something wrong. The EPA assumes you might do something wrong; it's a bureaucratic, intrusive approach and it favors those who have political connections.
Is it appropriate for the government to regulate toxic or dangerous materials, like lead in children's toys?
If a toy company is doing something dangerous, they're liable and they should be held responsible. The government should hold them responsible, but not be the inspector. The government can't inspect every single toy that comes into the country.
So you see it as the legal system that brings about environmental protection?
Right. Some of this stuff can be handled locally with a government. I was raised in the city of Pittsburgh. It was the filthiest city in the country because it was a steel town. You couldn't even see the sun on a sunny day. Then it was cleaned up -- not by the EPA, by local authorities that said you don't have a right to pollute -- and the government cleaned it up and the city's a beautiful city. You don't need this huge bureaucracy that's remote from the problem. Pittsburgh dealt with it in a local fashion and it worked out quite well.
What if you're part of a community that's getting dumped on, but you don't have the time or the money to sue the offending polluter?
Imagine that everyone living in one suburb, rather than using regular trash service, were taking their household trash to the next town over and simply tossing it in the yards of those living in the nearby town. Is there any question that legal mechanisms are in place to remedy this action? In principle, your concerns are no different, except that, for a good number of years, legislatures and courts have failed to enforce the property rights of those being dumped on with respect to certain forms of pollution. This form of government failure has persisted since the industrial revolution when, in the name of so-called progress, certain forms of pollution were legally tolerated or ignored to benefit some popular regional employer or politically popular entity.
When all forms of physical trespass, be that smoke, particulate matter, etc., are legally recognized for what they are -- a physical trespass upon the property and rights of another -- concerns about difficulty in suing the offending party will be largely diminished. When any such cases are known to be slam-dunk wins for the person whose property is being polluted, those doing the polluting will no longer persist in doing so. Against a backdrop of property rights actually enforced, contingency and class-action cases are additional legal mechanisms that resolve this concern.
Do you think it should be illegal to emit harmful pollutants?
You should be held responsible in a court of law and you should be able to be closed down if you're damaging your neighbor's property in any way whatsoever.
Who would set the law about what pollutants could and couldn't be emitted? Congress?
Not under my presidency -- the Congress wouldn't do it. The people who claim damage would have to say, look, I'm sitting here, and these poisons are coming over, and I can prove it, and I want it stopped, and I want compensation.
You've described your opposition to wars for oil as an example of your support for eco-friendly policies. Can you elaborate?
Generally speaking, war causes pollution -- uranium, burning of fuel for no good purpose. The Pentagon burns more fuel than the whole country of Sweden.
He is anti-abortion. Banning abortion or "leaving it up to states" is a bad idea because it does not do anything to reduce abortion rates; it just ups the number of illegal and unsafe abortions, making it even more dangerous for women and fetuses. Abortions are a medical issue and should just be between the doctor and the woman. Also, the best way of reducing the abortion rate is by increasing contraception, something that Ron Paul does not endorse.
Quite frankly I agree with you on this one. I still respect Ron Paul on his position though. He has delivered over 4000 babies and he understands the value of life. His thought process is that everyone deserves liberty as long as those liberties do not infringe upon the rights of others and that once a life exists, it does as well. As an experienced OB/GYN he believes that the life exists at contraception. He understands that prohibition doesn't work, as shown by his stance on marijuana, but he puts the value of the child's life above the value of the mother's right to choose to kill it. I am also sure he understands that certain extreme scenarios might require abortion, such as rape or potential danger to the mother's life. Overall his views on abortion may be different than my own but respectable enough in my eyes.
Returning to gold standards--it's not a workable system. Better economists have explained this, so just look it up.
And the federal reserve is a better system?
Healthcare--Obamacare is a mess, but less of a mess than what Paul is proposing. Tax breaks for paying for healthcare? End of HMO and other insurance company monopolies? Sure! However that still leaves the fact that many people, tax break or not, cannot afford healthcare. The best solution would be socialized healthcare like the NHS. There are many models of successful socialized healthcare around the world, which America can emulate. Each has its own problems, sure, but they're all still better than the current clusterfuck.
While I mostly agree, I do not think it would be worse than Obamacare. And even so, what candidate out there with a chance of winning will bring about socialized healthcare? None unfortunately.
Elimination of the IRS and income tax--again, unworkable and illogical. A progressive tax system is the fairest.
Not true. If you can liquidate the debt and eliminate the bad economic policies to achieve growth again, the income tax becomes unnecessary. However if Ron Paul were elected I can bet that we still not see the end of the IRS and income tax, but rather the first step towards that and the end of our debt and bad economic policies. Only if he could achieve that would he be able to abolish the IRS and income tax.
From what I can tell people are taking his view points and acting as if they would become immediate realities upon his election. I, however, take his view points and expect the first steps towards those realities which in turn would be much more beneficial to this country than anything else. I do not necessarily agree with his end goals but it is the steps to reach those goals that he would need to take that I agree with.