E3 2013

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Anti Bug Post
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The guy guarding the Xbox one...lol
https://vine.co/v/bliY6IaMXYb
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Great E3... its been a long time since I've been this excited about video games. Pretty sure I'm gonna preorder a PS4.
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Zolnir wrote...
Sony is doing this very cleverly. Sure the price tag is $100 cheaper, but through PS Plus and monthly fee (for multiplayer) they can easily recoup and earn far more if players wants to go online. In the long run who knows, XBox One might even be cheaper for all its apparent defects right now.


Have you actually looked at the costs rather than just hear the fact you have to pay to play online? PS+ is only 5 USD per month, or 50 for an entire year package. There is also no hidden costs, like you presume. Hell, considering how PS+ is in fact a better service than MS god membership, where the gold is only access to play online, PS+ grants a person better deals, a free game every month and so forth, I can acknowledge that PS+ is a better service.

Also not to mention that Xbox Gold membership costs more than what it is to pay for PS+.
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Continuing from my Microsoft reaction:



[size=29]Sony:[/h]


Jack Tretton wrote...
In february we unveiled the most advanced gaming system ever created.


This is my rig:
Spoiler:
Forum Image: http://i42.tinypic.com/sfl0dk.jpg

>black and sleek
>gtx 570, soon to become gtx 680
>16 gig ram
>3.5 ghz (not overclocked)
>120 gig SSD
>500 gig HDD
>500 gig external HDD for shits and giggles
>neon light around fan
>mod support
>piracy support

No, Sony, I have the most advanced gaming system here.

Psvita: don't care

PS3: motherfucker stop wasting my time.

PS4: Ha! It looks like a crooked sandwich dug up from an era where a play station was considered a cave wall.

Welcome to the stage for the first time, CFEOAO of Sony entertainment, Stuttering Mess. The poor fuck.

A bunch of engrish.

The Order:
Disclaimer wrote...
This CG movie was created using the game's engine.


Sony's not even trying. The game, however, is clearly a steam punk title.

Killzone: those god damn space nazis fuck like rabbits. I'm also certain their women have a darth vader fetish.

Driveclub: because every big conference needs its car porn.

Infamous: I haven't played a superhero game in a while, so that guy from the fantastic four will do.

Knack: I guess every big conference also has to have its kiddie shit.

Dark sorcerer video: Don't be so modest, sony. I'm sure even the ps3 can run a pre-rendered cg movie in real-time.

Indie presentation: fo shizzle

Squeenix guy wrote...
ohio gozaimassu ladies and gentlemen, I'm just here to say that I have nothing to say, so here's some jap shit.


Fucking weab.

Black flag: playing at a steady 2 frames per second.

Watch dogs: everything is connected. Especially xbones. That gameplay had my dick moving on its own again.

Lebron James questions his own ball handling abilities. If you've seen the EA conference, then you know they're his only hope for deepening his knowledge of it.

TES online: meh. PS4fags will be the first to play a game related to Bethesda that's broken, legitimately for once.

Mad Max: my favorite part was when no one clapped.

To compensate, Tretton whipped out PS4's dick: no drm (by Sony) and yes used games. The audience ate it up. Not the best figure of speech to use when PS4's dick is hanging out. PS4 has the right to be called "PS4 master race" for, let's say, 3 days. It'll be like a free trial, so that PSfags know how PCfags feel on a daily basis.

Destiny: apparently Borderlands got pregnant and Rage is the babydaddy.

FOUR HUNDRED DARRA!!!!!!




Conference Rating: XboxGoHome/10

Okay, my job here is done.
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Rbz wrote...
Spoiler:
Continuing from my Microsoft reaction:



[size=29]Sony:[/h]


Jack Tretton wrote...
In february we unveiled the most advanced gaming system ever created.


This is my rig:
Spoiler:
Forum Image: http://i42.tinypic.com/sfl0dk.jpg

>black and sleek
>gtx 570, soon to become gtx 680
>16 gig ram
>3.5 ghz (not overclocked)
>120 gig SSD
>500 gig HDD
>500 gig external HDD for shits and giggles
>neon light around fan
>mod support
>piracy support

No, Sony, I have the most advanced gaming system here.

Psvita: don't care

PS3: motherfucker stop wasting my time.

PS4: Ha! It looks like a crooked sandwich dug up from an era where a play station was considered a cave wall.

Welcome to the stage for the first time, CFEOAO of Sony entertainment, Stuttering Mess. The poor fuck.

A bunch of engrish.

The Order:
Disclaimer wrote...
This CG movie was created using the game's engine.


Sony's not even trying. The game, however, is clearly a steam punk title.

Killzone: those god damn space nazis fuck like rabbits. I'm also certain their women have a darth vader fetish.

Driveclub: because every big conference needs its car porn.

Infamous: I haven't played a superhero game in a while, so that guy from the fantastic four will do.

Knack: I guess every big conference also has to have its kiddie shit.

Dark sorcerer video: Don't be so modest, sony. I'm sure even the ps3 can run a pre-rendered cg movie in real-time.

Indie presentation: fo shizzle

Squeenix guy wrote...
ohio gozaimassu ladies and gentlemen, I'm just here to say that I have nothing to say, so here's some jap shit.


Fucking weab.

Black flag: playing at a steady 2 frames per second.

Watch dogs: everything is connected. Especially xbones. That gameplay had my dick moving on its own again.

Lebron James questions his own ball handling abilities. If you've seen the EA conference, then you know they're his only hope for deepening his knowledge of it.

TES online: meh. PS4fags will be the first to play a game related to Bethesda that's broken, legitimately for once.

Mad Max: my favorite part was when no one clapped.

To compensate, Tretton whipped out PS4's dick: no drm (by Sony) and yes used games. The audience ate it up. Not the best figure of speech to use when PS4's dick is hanging out. PS4 has the right to be called "PS4 master race" for, let's say, 3 days. It'll be like a free trial, so that PSfags know how PCfags feel on a daily basis.

Destiny: apparently Borderlands got pregnant and Rage is the babydaddy.

FOUR HUNDRED DARRA!!!!!!




Conference Rating: XboxGoHome/10

Okay, my job here is done.


MAN, YOU SHOULD PAIR UP WITH THE CYNICAL BRIT.
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Once again felt like sharing
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Ryssen wrote...
omg
ps4
it looks like xbox one
but tilted on the side
11/10 great idea no one will suspect anything


Spoiler:
Forum Image: http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18qga0yc8mxs8jpg/ku-xlarge.jpg
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Cyndas wrote...
Ryssen wrote...
omg
ps4
it looks like xbox one
but tilted on the side
11/10 great idea no one will suspect anything


Spoiler:
Forum Image: http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18qga0yc8mxs8jpg/ku-xlarge.jpg


Not sure why both companies decided to go with such a non-creative design for their consoles.
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Kaimax Best Master-San
dragonsheart967 wrote...
Not sure why both companies decided to go with such a non-creative design for their consoles.


The question is "What makes a design creative?"
-Having multiple colors?
-Make it have a weirder shape? Like a Ball perhaps?
-shape it like a high end PC Tower?

The WiiU isn't different either being also white/black box.

I always like a simplistic approach.
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Kaimax wrote...
dragonsheart967 wrote...
Not sure why both companies decided to go with such a non-creative design for their consoles.


The question is "What makes a design creative?"
-Having multiple colors?
-Make it have a weirder shape? Like a Ball perhaps?
-shape it like a high end PC Tower?

The WiiU isn't different either being also white/black box.


Exactly. Console design isn't too big of an issue for me personally. As long as the thing does what it's supposed to do then I'm alright. Handheld consoles are a different story though.
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Kaimax wrote...
dragonsheart967 wrote...
Not sure why both companies decided to go with such a non-creative design for their consoles.


The question is "What makes a design creative?"
-Having multiple colors?
-Make it have a weirder shape? Like a Ball perhaps?
-shape it like a high end PC Tower?

The WiiU isn't different either being also white/black box.

I always like a simplistic approach.


How about anything besides a generic box?

Now I don't expect something fancy or over the top, but they could really go with something better than a box.
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dragonsheart967 wrote...
Zolnir wrote...
Sony is doing this very cleverly. Sure the price tag is $100 cheaper, but through PS Plus and monthly fee (for multiplayer) they can easily recoup and earn far more if players wants to go online. In the long run who knows, XBox One might even be cheaper for all its apparent defects right now.


Have you actually looked at the costs rather than just hear the fact you have to pay to play online? PS+ is only 5 USD per month, or 50 for an entire year package. There is also no hidden costs, like you presume. Hell, considering how PS+ is in fact a better service than MS god membership, where the gold is only access to play online, PS+ grants a person better deals, a free game every month and so forth, I can acknowledge that PS+ is a better service.

Also not to mention that Xbox Gold membership costs more than what it is to pay for PS+.


How is PSN better than XBL Gold exactly? If memory serves me right, as I've had Gold for the last 4 years, being a Gold member opens up weekly deals on XBL Marketplace (including movies and music). I also recall downloading a number of free games over XBL Arcade, including Castle Crashers, Happy Wars, The Maw, Geometry Wars, and a couple of Doritos promotional games that actually weren't half bad. I even want to say that XBL is also a little more secure than PSN as the worst you get there are a few phishing schemes and some downtime due to service updates, contrasting with that full blown hack Sony experienced a while ago (not blaming Sony, but it could've been handled better). It just seems to me that MS put more effort into their online service. Moderators are constantly on the lookout for cheaters/hackers/asshats and swing their banhammers on those who violate the TOS agreement. Not to mention the ability to chat with your friends without you having to play the same game and the occasional early release of DLC/betas for certain games.

The only thing that I truly don't like about XBL is how you have to be a Gold member to play online. That, I will admit was one of PSN's more appealing features and the one thing I envied the PS3 over (aside from a couple of games that I'm still wanting to play). Which makes me sad to see go away with the PS4. Look, I'm not saying that XBL is definitively better than PSN, but I do know that each service has it's strengths and that many people may prefer one over the other. I for one, prefer XBL, as do a good number of my friends. Simply claiming one service as being factually better than the other just sounds rather ignorant.

Honestly, I couldn't care less about the cost of XBL being an extra $10 a year over PSN+. It just feels like an insignificant amount to me and not at all worth making a fuss over. Especially since I already abuse the hell out of my Bing toolbar to farm Bing points to buy MS points and XBL subscriptions for free. At this point, I must've already earned 4 free months of Gold and at least $30 worth of DLC, simply by typing in random shit in Bing everyday.
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psbox362 wrote...
dragonsheart967 wrote...
Zolnir wrote...
Sony is doing this very cleverly. Sure the price tag is $100 cheaper, but through PS Plus and monthly fee (for multiplayer) they can easily recoup and earn far more if players wants to go online. In the long run who knows, XBox One might even be cheaper for all its apparent defects right now.


Have you actually looked at the costs rather than just hear the fact you have to pay to play online? PS+ is only 5 USD per month, or 50 for an entire year package. There is also no hidden costs, like you presume. Hell, considering how PS+ is in fact a better service than MS god membership, where the gold is only access to play online, PS+ grants a person better deals, a free game every month and so forth, I can acknowledge that PS+ is a better service.

Also not to mention that Xbox Gold membership costs more than what it is to pay for PS+.


How is PSN better than XBL Gold exactly? If memory serves me right, as I've had Gold for the last 4 years, being a Gold member opens up weekly deals on XBL Marketplace (including movies and music). I also recall downloading a number of free games over XBL Arcade, including Castle Crashers, Happy Wars, The Maw, Geometry Wars, and a couple of Doritos promotional games that actually weren't half bad. I even want to say that XBL is also a little more secure than PSN as the worst you get there are a few phishing schemes and some downtime due to service updates, contrasting with that full blown hack Sony experienced a while ago (not blaming Sony, but it could've been handled better). It just seems to me that MS put more effort into their online service. Moderators are constantly on the lookout for cheaters/hackers/asshats and swing their banhammers on those who violate the TOS agreement. Not to mention the ability to chat with your friends without you having to play the same game and the occasional early release of DLC/betas for certain games.

The only thing that I truly don't like about XBL is how you have to be a Gold member to play online. That, I will admit was one of PSN's more appealing features and the one thing I envied the PS3 over (aside from a couple of games that I'm still wanting to play). Which makes me sad to see go away with the PS4. Look, I'm not saying that XBL is definitively better than PSN, but I do know that each service has it's strengths and that many people may prefer one over the other. I for one, prefer XBL, as do a good number of my friends. Simply claiming one service as being factually better than the other just sounds rather ignorant.

Honestly, I couldn't care less about the cost of XBL being an extra $10 a year over PSN+. It just feels like an insignificant amount to me and not at all worth making a fuss over. Especially since I already abuse the hell out of my Bing toolbar to farm Bing points to buy MS points and XBL subscriptions for free. At this point, I must've already earned 4 free months of Gold and at least $30 worth of DLC, simply by typing in random shit in Bing everyday.


My mistake. I've only had XBL for a few months now, and whenever I get on, I never really see any deals, but that could have easily been due to my lack of experience. As for PS+, I never made a subscription, but in the corner, I always see the announcements of either games up to 60% off, free games, and even Beta access to games I never even heard of at the time, and every time I got on my PS3, it looked like it was something new every single day, so my thought process would thus lead me to the conclusion that Sony is just throwing games at you.

As for me, I don't exactly have a steady income, so I need to manage my money more so than the average person would. To you, it's an insignificant amount, but to me, it's a tiny hole adding up to my other expenses.
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Kaimax Best Master-San
psbox362 wrote...
How is PSN better than XBL Gold exactly?


Tried to find the most "neutral comparison", it's pretty old, need to wait for an update.

This is the service before the reveal of PS4
Spoiler:
Forum Image: https://www.fakku.net/image-404/images/1664998-L7XT96Z.jpg

Besides cheaper, what makes PSN+ better from Gold is the Free Games and Full Trials. Gold just started giving out free games. Starting with AC 2, and Halo 3, While Plus this month will give out, Deux Ex:Human, UC 3, Xcom:EU, Saints Row 3. The Vita will get Orc Attack and Virtue's Last Reward

Because now PSN plus is mandatory for online plays (excepts F2P games like DCUO) expect better service.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/124956-PS-Not-Required-For-Free-to-Play-Online-Games

The only time I had PSN Plus was as a apology for the hacking incident, and I suddenly had too many games to play. My main problem why I haven't continue subscribing it now is that I don't have a credit card and there are no PSN card vouchers in my country (which is not a surprise for my country)

dragonsheart967 wrote...
How about anything besides a generic box?


What is "anything" than a generic box? Why don't you elaborate your idea of "anything" that is not a generic box.

Will a Trapezoid do? Will a Pentagram do?
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Kaimax wrote...
psbox362 wrote...
How is PSN better than XBL Gold exactly?


Tried to find the most "neutral comparison", it's pretty old, need to wait for an update.

This is the service before the reveal of PS4
Spoiler:
Forum Image: https://www.fakku.net/image-404/images/1664998-L7XT96Z.jpg

Besides cheaper, what makes PSN+ better from Gold is the Free Games and Full Trials. Gold just started giving out free games. Starting with AC 2, and Halo 3, While Plus this month will give out, Deux Ex:Human, UC 3, Xcom:EU, Saints Row 3. The Vita will get Orc Attack and Virtue's Last Reward

Because now PSN plus is mandatory for online plays (excepts F2P games like DCUO) expect better service.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/124956-PS-Not-Required-For-Free-to-Play-Online-Games

The only time I had PSN Plus was as a apology for the hacking incident, and I suddenly had too many games to play. My main problem why I haven't continue subscribing it now is that I don't have a credit card and there are no PSN card vouchers in my country (which is not a surprise for my country)


The way I see it, the "free games" are more akin to a rental service than actual ownership. As soon as your PSN+ account runs up, the games are gone. I do, however, admire the 1 hour trials for full games.

That said, I still think one of XBL stronger points is it's ability to make your online experience better. Sure on PSN you can block other accounts. But on XBL, you have more options, such as blocking, reporting, reviewing and even muting other players. Granted, that system is sometimes exploited by idiots, but that's why Microsoft employs a team of moderators to keep the peace and investigate each case reported to them. I have also heard of Microsoft's customer service being several degrees better than Sony's, but can't personally comment on that myself.

So, yeah. I agree that PSN+ has some cool stuff on it's side, but I still strongly prefer XBL for all it does for players. I do hope that PSN get's better over time as I really do think it's MS charging for Gold that made it such a good online service. But again, I still think that it mostly chalks up to personal preference as I'm not convinced that one service is wholly better than the other at this moment.

dragonsheart967 wrote...
My mistake. I've only had XBL for a few months now, and whenever I get on, I never really see any deals, but that could have easily been due to my lack of experience. As for PS+, I never made a subscription, but in the corner, I always see the announcements of either games up to 60% off, free games, and even Beta access to games I never even heard of at the time, and every time I got on my PS3, it looked like it was something new every single day, so my thought process would thus lead me to the conclusion that Sony is just throwing games at you.

As for me, I don't exactly have a steady income, so I need to manage my money more so than the average person would. To you, it's an insignificant amount, but to me, it's a tiny hole adding up to my other expenses.


It's only $10 over the course of a year. that's less than the cost of a bottle of coke every month. I'm by no means rich, but I do know how to keep to a budget. All I'm doing is refraining from buying junk food and not eating out as often. It also helps that I can walk to work nowadays. And like I mentioned before, Bing is worth checking out if you have a Microsoft account as it's a good way to get free MS points to buy stuff or simply earn a free month of Gold.

When it comes to the deals for Gold members, I think the biggest one going on right now is a free copy of Assassin's Creed 2 and Halo 3, but that's a more recent thing that MS put out there to promote the Xbox One. Fable 3 was also free a couple of days ago as well. There's usually a special tab in the Games section that has the list of the current ongoing sales. You can occasionally catch an event or something going on to coincide with movie releases, holidays, or whathaveyou.
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What I'm saying is that people should look at both sides od things. In the end it's all business, and it doesn't matter which side is more popular, they ARE going to sell, they ARE going to make money, and they WILL profit no matter how bad the situation seemed now. Oh, the bashing looks bad, but Microsoft's been through far worse tides than this.

Let's face it: Despite all the protests people are going to buy XBoxOne. Some will not, sure, and for the first few months they might even take a loss. MIGHT. But eventually as the games roll in people will start buying it again - I can't believe people WANT games to be exclusive, you just make yourself poorer because you're forced to get a specific console to play a game, like, seriously? Why do you think PC gamers seldom migrate to consoles?

Take popular Youtubers like Angry Joe or Total Halibut as example, they HAD to buy it because they depend on producing good and updated gaming content to the media as a source of income. Suppose they don't buy a XBoxOne, they would lose out a lot of content and in turn a lot of potential viewers as well, it's just the way things are.

They've even admitted that they won't buy XBoxOne 'at launch', which means one way or another they WILL buy it in the future. Those guaranteed customers right there of XBoxOne, whether they hate it to the bones or not. So Microsoft isn't going to sell as much as they like on launch. Do you think they didn't plan for this? Do you think they can't absorb the loss? Heck, some business strategies plan to absorb YEARS of losses before profiting like hell afterwards. Who's to say this wasn't Microsoft's plan all along?
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Zolnir wrote...
Who's to say this wasn't Microsoft's plan all along?


Their desperate attempts at damage control.

Zolnir wrote...
they HAD to buy it
they would lose out a lot of content
They've even admitted
they WILL buy it in the future


Total Britfuck's channel is PC gamer oriented. He doesn't need to buy shit for his audience except a better graphics card.
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And your point? So TotalBiscuit don't give a damn about XBox. Great! How about console Youtubers like Angry Joe then, which you so kindly left out of my words? You know exactly what I meant and you nitpick because... it makes absolutely no point? Wow!

You see their efforts as 'desperate', but what I see is standard response to a failed promotion strategy. Who DOESN'T do damage control? Do you even need a reason other than oh, there's a hole on my shoes and I need to fix it. Of COURSE they're doing damage control, what?

The REAL desperate would've been to pull back even one of the restrictions they've chained onto XBox, because that would mean they cannot take the loss of missing out on launch sales, but they didn't. In fact they're just keeping quiet because they knew no matter what they said the masses are just going to bite on it and fan up the fires. Ever been in a flame war? Shut up, let them flak, and eventually they're gonna lose interest and shut up and STILL going to buy an XBoxOne from Microsoft because they're gamers and they're addicted to games and they can't stop. Titanfall alone is going to drag thousands of gamers 'unwillingly' to buy the oh-so-hated XBoxOne.
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Zolnir wrote...
which you so kindly left out of my words?


Precisely. You weren't wrong about Angry Joe.

Zolnir wrote...
Of COURSE they're doing damage control, what?


Which says to me: things didn't really go as planned. Especially since Sony exploited M's bad PR to garner the disenchanted.

Zolnir wrote...
they're gamers and they're addicted to games and they can't stop


The poor helpless fucks.