The console wars

The only PS3 that has been sold recently with ps2 compatibility is the 80g MGS4 The new models won't have it at all.

that only 5 games on your list were decent. and there are talks of versus 13 going to X360 at a later date as well.

whereas the 360 has

Fallout 3 as well
dead space as well
Left 4 Dead
Too Human
Halo 3
Bioshock
Mass Effect
Call of Duty 4
FEAR
Banjo Kazooie XDXDXD
Gears of War 2
Fable 2
Halo wars

this list goes on too XD

I will concede that the PS3 has superior stats, but it's price and lack of -good- games make it less than worth it. though it is the cheapest bluray out there lol, that would be a reason to buy it, screw games XD

what I'm saying is that the 360 is on top because of its negotiable price and top line selection of games

im sorry but i have to bust your chops *clears throat*

fallout 3 is also for the ps3
so is dead space -_-
too human (5.5 on Gamespot, bad reviews EVERYWHERE)
left for dead is actually a good game, Valve is a pc exclusive which ties microsoft in so i have to say that it sucks to not be a part of this game
halo 3? why are you listing games in the past?
bioshock is coming out OCT 21 on Ps3 with all of your so called "exclusive DLC"
Mass Effect yes a great RPG but there is talk on porting it to the PS3
Fear also coming out for Ps3
Banjo Kazooie!!!!???? you really are running on low if you mention this.
Fable 2, will probably be great...no complaints here
Halo Wars? yeah just mod Commander and Conquerer or Starcraft with Halo and you got yourself a generic game.

*ends rant*
not only has numerous gaming companies said that they prefer working with PS3, they can also do more with the ps3. Xbox360 simply does not have the power to run games such as MGS4 and LittleBigPlanet, the developers said it themselves. Not to mention that i have NEVER,EVER,EVER met anybody that is on their FIRST 360. Oh and the guy that leaked information as to why the red ring happens? he was fired, and is now getting sued by microsoft to the fullest extent of the law. bottom line is you get what you pay for. If you pay $199 for a 360 expect problems.

dang...that really sucks. ive heard people go through 2 but never 3! :shock:

not only has numerous gaming companies said that they prefer working with PS3, they can also do more with the ps3.

Being a video game developer (I develop for both, Playstation 3 and XBOX 360) people ask me almost daily which platform I think is better. These are my personal feelings, in no way does this reflect my employer.

Short answer: XBOX 360.

Long answer: Price, performance, visual quality, game selection and online support. I think the XBOX 360 wins in every category.

Price: This is obvious; the XBOX 360 core is only $299. The PS3 is around $499 for the 20GB version. It comes with a hard drive, but you don’t need a hard drive to enjoy a lot of great games on the 360 so I think it’s fair to compare both core systems.

Performance: On paper, the PS3 is more powerful. In reality, it’s quite inferior to the 360. Without getting into too many details, the three general-purpose CPU’s the xbox360 has are currently FAR easier to take advantage of than the SPU’s on the PS3. I suspect a few years down the road some high budget, first party PS3 exclusive titles will come out that really take advantage of the SPU’s and do things the XBOX 360 can’t, but I don’t think the console is worth buying based on this speculation (for some it will be though, we'll have to wait and see how these games turn out).

Graphics: The XBOX 360 is a clear winner. The GPU is more powerful. It has more powerful fillrate, and far more pixel and vertex processing horsepower. Part of the reason is their choice of memory, and architecture of pixel and vertex procesing. I can’t get into details but the same vertex shader will run much slower on the PS3 than the XBOX 360. The 360 also has a clever new way rendering high definition anti aliased back buffers. To accomplish the same effect on PS3 is prohibitively expensive. For this reason I think many games will have no choice but to run in non-HD resolutions on the PS3 version, use a lower quality anti aliasing technique, or do back buffer upscaling. The end result in all cases is going to be noticeably worse image quality.

Xbox360 simply does not have the power to run games such as MGS4 and LittleBigPlanet, the developers said it themselves.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/resistance2/video/6193988/e3-2008-sony-press-conference

@72:30

a bunch of developers go on on how they enjoy working with the Ps3's Blu-Ray Disc capabilities. Thats what i meant by power(my bad i didnt specify)

I lol'd, that's from Sony's E3 conference, ofcourse they're gonna make it sound like the Ps3 is teh bestest thing evah!

I'd prefer information from a non-biased source if possible.

Also, i didn't hear anyone say anything about prefering to develope games for the Ps3, they only talked about how badass the console is and is gonna be in the future (lol unexpected to bring that up at their own conference)

At least it wasn't disappointing like the Wii's conference. It made children cry. lol

Plz tell me how this comment is relevant to anything being discussed.

Im pretty sure that were talking about conferences and that the Wii is in the console war. Let me check tho.......YEP. Also Im sure that the conference was a Epic Fail sense Ive seen it and it was.

No, we were not discussing who of the three had the best E3 this year, we were talking about the developers view on the 360/Ps3's specs and game development, why you even brought up Nintendo is beyond my knowledge.

This just feels like red herring if anything.

Were talking about developers views? O_o * Whosh * that went over my head.

Ummmmmm I know that the Ninja gaidan guy Itagaki said development was super easy on the PS3. I can link you if you want.

No need, im not arguing that the Ps3 is hard to develope for, i only questioned giroro's post about developers prefering the Ps3 since i found information that contradicted that.

I had it ready anyway.

www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/08/27/team-ninjas-itagaki-says-ps3-development-easier-than-famicom/

"I don't think that developing for the PS3 is hard at all. It was much harder developing for the Famicom,"

www.ps3fanboy.com
I always enjoy getting information from a non-biased source :P
(j/k)


Did he just compare the game-development for the NES to the Ps3?
Did he just compare making games on a cartridge for a 8-bit system to making games on a blu-ray disc for a current generation console?

What the fuck kind of comparison is that??

Im sure he knows what hes talking about. Hes been doing development for a long time.I gucess the comparison is that for him at least it was childs play.

You've gone up in my books. BTW im on my 3rd 360 and its starting to act up.