Who pirates all of their games?
Do you pirate?
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Dejitaru Ryuu wrote...
1 - Creating a game costs money (production, developing, paying the workers, comercials)2 - They sell their product to gain back the expenses plus profit.
3 - if pirated they loose income
4 - Loss of income means less money to reasearch future games and keeping the company running
5 - to gain more income the prices raise
6 - The prices raise, people want to buy less and pirate more
7 - Repeat from step 3
This is the actuall problem really. if pirating didn't excist then I'm positive that all games would cost half of what they are now.
While I am not necessarily for piracy, your last statement isn't quite true. Games have always been pretty expensive.
I can't find a lot of sources (can't really use my memory as a source, especially since I don't remember the exact prices of games ten years ago), but I did find this:
http://www.islandnet.com/~kpolsson/vidgame/vid1994.htm
"Playmates releases the Earthworm Jim video game for the Super NES in the USA. Price is US$69.99. [724.102] [1161.80]"
http://www.islandnet.com/~kpolsson/vidgame/vid1995.htm
"Konami releases the Metal Warriors video game for the Super NES for US$59.99 to US$69.99. [488.140] [972.94]"
1994 and 1995, long before game piracy became prevalent, and games for the SNES cost the same as they do now. Which actually seems wrong, since it's been so long.
Anyways, the point is, games are expensive, and if there was no piracy, they'd still be expensive. And it's not like piracy is continuously draining millions from each company. People still buy games, even if they do pirate some.
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The last time i bought an original game was Home Alone for my SNES. That was a very long time ago. Now all of my games from my Playstation, PS2, PSP are fakes. And now that i have my PSP that can play emulators i have downloaded gigabytes worth of Gameboy, gameboy advance roms, snes roms, sega genesis roms, nes roms and many many more.Because of that i have probably saved at least ten thousand dollars at least.
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yo ho. most of the games i play nowadays were purchased like they should, im attempting to establish a library of games now that i have the budget. but back in the day i had to sacrifice what i already had in order to upgrade to the next generation or bigger preference. i stayed with the times but lost the timeless treasures, its true. because of that i mostly pirate older games i feel like playing every once in a while.
the biggest victim of my depravity afflicting would be the psp however, simply because its the little portable system that could. i can play anything from nintendo to sega emulators, all well having iso files available online for psp and psx titles. the capabilities are endless... until you run out of memory on your sd duo card. on the plus side there are peripherals you can buy that allow for numerous sd duos to be installed at once, allowing for an exponential increase in capacity. in other words, the only shortcoming i can see of the psps mod can be fixed with a 25$ attachment.
the biggest victim of my depravity afflicting would be the psp however, simply because its the little portable system that could. i can play anything from nintendo to sega emulators, all well having iso files available online for psp and psx titles. the capabilities are endless... until you run out of memory on your sd duo card. on the plus side there are peripherals you can buy that allow for numerous sd duos to be installed at once, allowing for an exponential increase in capacity. in other words, the only shortcoming i can see of the psps mod can be fixed with a 25$ attachment.
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(>'.')>¿;= wrote...
yo ho. most of the games i play nowadays were purchased like they should, im attempting to establish a library of games now that i have the budget. but back in the day i had to sacrifice what i already had in order to upgrade to the next generation or bigger preference. i stayed with the times but lost the timeless treasures, its true. because of that i mostly pirate older games i feel like playing every once in a while.the biggest victim of my depravity afflicting would be the psp however, simply because its the little portable system that could. i can play anything from nintendo to sega emulators, all well having iso files available online for psp and psx titles. the capabilities are endless... until you run out of memory on your sd duo card. on the plus side there are peripherals you can buy that allow for numerous sd duos to be installed at once, allowing for an exponential increase in capacity. in other words, the only shortcoming i can see of the psps mod can be fixed with a 25$ attachment.
That's why i love my PSP. ^_^
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For me, it's all about the Studio, If it's someone like bioware or Valve, who don't tend to pump games out just for the money, then I'll buy it regardless if i think it'll be crappy. If it's someone like EA though (I'm never sure what to expect) I'll usually pirate it and evaluate if i want to buy it for multi-player reasons.
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Tegumi
"im always cute"
Tegumi wrote...
In b4 RIAAYou know guys, if the FBI ever wanted to put together a nice list of people downloading games illegally, they wouldn't even have to try.
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Tegumi wrote...
Tegumi wrote...
In b4 RIAAYou know guys, if the FBI ever wanted to put together a nice list of people downloading games illegally, they wouldn't even have to try.
Because the FBI usually goes after individuals who pirate games and not websites that make the pirated versions available, right?
And because posts made on a forum are often used as evidence in court, right?
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Tegumi
"im always cute"
ShaggyJebus wrote...
Because the FBI usually goes after individuals who pirate games and not websites that make the pirated versions available, right?Because usually means always, right?
ShaggyJebus wrote...
And because posts made on a forum are often used as evidence in court, right?Absolutely, because the government will skip all investigative process and go to court with just a forum alias and a post. They won't find out who the actual person is, or monitor their network traffic. Nope.
Whatever, if people want to leave incriminating information in a public place, it's their prerogative. I just thought I'd give a word of warning.
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I usually pirate my games, the only exception I will be making is pokémon soulsilver, and the new 3D castlevania, because those are the only 2 franchises I am 'loyal' to.
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i usually download single player games, like assassin's creed and more recently fallout 3 and wanted. the ones i do buy are games with good online multiplayer like WoW, COD series, W40k DoW to name a few. i guess its 50/50.
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I still have my Duke Nukem 3D Plutonium Pak [and a 1.3 CD].
I download games when I can't be bothered looking for the disks. Not really a huge crime.
I download games when I can't be bothered looking for the disks. Not really a huge crime.
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I honestly don't know how to answer this.
Aside from a select number of SNES titles and Dreamcast games, I very seldom pirate anymore. More or less, whatever I can't obtain, or import, I download. Since I have a steady income, I've pretty much become a collector/gamer and can afford the games I like and since there aren't many games of interest to me as of late, I've been purchasing a lot of older games, which I've previously had ROMs of. To me, downloading, while useful in the past, leaves me with an empty feeling, especially with those rare gems and I would feel proud seeing that copy of Secret of Mana or Xenogears on my shelf, than on my computer.
Aside from a select number of SNES titles and Dreamcast games, I very seldom pirate anymore. More or less, whatever I can't obtain, or import, I download. Since I have a steady income, I've pretty much become a collector/gamer and can afford the games I like and since there aren't many games of interest to me as of late, I've been purchasing a lot of older games, which I've previously had ROMs of. To me, downloading, while useful in the past, leaves me with an empty feeling, especially with those rare gems and I would feel proud seeing that copy of Secret of Mana or Xenogears on my shelf, than on my computer.
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I pirate all of my music. I haven't actually bought a CD in years. Yesterday I downloaded the new star trek movie and I'm damn glad I didn't spend money to see it. As for games, usually only up to the snes and VN's that I can't get anywhere else. Games just take to much fiddling with to pirate seriously.
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Some music, and a couple GBA games for ROM hacking but thats really it. I don't even have a computer to run most games or the technical know-how to mod my Xbox to run ISO's
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Jericho Antares
FAKKU Writer
I pirate for my 360, and then buy when a game is worth the sixty. Sad thing is not many games have measure up lately. Last pirated game I bought was Lost Odyssey.
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It's about 50/50 for me do to the fact that i just DL a bunch of VN's off here, but I'll go out into the city and go buy a copy of Halo, Megaman or even the odd game for my Wii. What im saying I buy alot of stuff I have access to, but if my sources are limited and I want the damn game I'll pirate that shit in a heartbeat. :D
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Jericho Antares
FAKKU Writer
Yeah, I don't have as strict of a constitution as you guys, lol. EVen if its available I usually pirate. $3 per game as oppose to $60, and I can get it days before release.
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If visual novels count then I priate a decent amount of games, thanks to Klown, but other than that I buy most of my games becase I'm more of a console gamer. Still download a rom every now and then.
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"I'm surrounded by sinners! Don't touch me with your filthly hands."
In regard for video games it's like cheating on your girlfriend. I'd just feel wrong. I love my games so why would I hurt those who creat those games by pirating them.
On the other hand I have dipped my hand in pirating bishojo games like Crescendo, but just to see how it's like since we don't get demos for them. If I like it as was the case with Crescendo I buy them if that's possible. I've bought 7 of 9 games I've pirated so I don't think I did anything wrong. The other two of the 9 I still haven't bought have not been release for North America so I can't really get my hands on them.
In regard for video games it's like cheating on your girlfriend. I'd just feel wrong. I love my games so why would I hurt those who creat those games by pirating them.
On the other hand I have dipped my hand in pirating bishojo games like Crescendo, but just to see how it's like since we don't get demos for them. If I like it as was the case with Crescendo I buy them if that's possible. I've bought 7 of 9 games I've pirated so I don't think I did anything wrong. The other two of the 9 I still haven't bought have not been release for North America so I can't really get my hands on them.