Xbox One Epic Fail.
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Neither console has really grabbed me honestly. But honestly some things people are saying are a bit ridiculous.
Backwards compatibility is obviously not a good idea from a business standpoint. Which is why both systems won't offer it, what's the point of a PS3 or 360 if the new system can play them? They'd be useless and all the games and profit they make from them would go down the toilet.
And people seem to think the $100 price difference is a deal breaker. In actuality, it isn't. 2 new games are more than the price difference between the two. A game with tax is 63.59(where I live at least). Multiply that x2 and you get $127.18. Plus gamers are the biggest suckers out of any consumer. I know from experience from working at GameStop the past 8 months. I can make someone spend at least 50 dollars more than they planned to if I wanted. A $100 price difference is nothing. Not trying to knock gamers since I'm one as well, but it's true.
With this always connected thing, at least Microsoft is embracing the future. People may think it's ridiculous, but look at the things we have right now. Smartphones, tablets, laptops, desktops, and even cars are coming with wifi. We're connected 24/7 and some people don't even know it. This is the inevitable future. At least Microsoft knows that. And to be perfectly honest, there is a very very small percentage of actual gamers without internet.
Not really trying to side with either one because I'm still iffy about both. But there are some things about the Xbox One that have been blown out of proportion.
Backwards compatibility is obviously not a good idea from a business standpoint. Which is why both systems won't offer it, what's the point of a PS3 or 360 if the new system can play them? They'd be useless and all the games and profit they make from them would go down the toilet.
And people seem to think the $100 price difference is a deal breaker. In actuality, it isn't. 2 new games are more than the price difference between the two. A game with tax is 63.59(where I live at least). Multiply that x2 and you get $127.18. Plus gamers are the biggest suckers out of any consumer. I know from experience from working at GameStop the past 8 months. I can make someone spend at least 50 dollars more than they planned to if I wanted. A $100 price difference is nothing. Not trying to knock gamers since I'm one as well, but it's true.
With this always connected thing, at least Microsoft is embracing the future. People may think it's ridiculous, but look at the things we have right now. Smartphones, tablets, laptops, desktops, and even cars are coming with wifi. We're connected 24/7 and some people don't even know it. This is the inevitable future. At least Microsoft knows that. And to be perfectly honest, there is a very very small percentage of actual gamers without internet.
Not really trying to side with either one because I'm still iffy about both. But there are some things about the Xbox One that have been blown out of proportion.
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I'm torn right now after E3.
I really want to continue liking Xbox, I'm trying so hard right now. But the always-online DRM and prioritization of the western market is turning me to the opposite side. I don't care for the used games section since there's no retailer that sells such in where I live (not legitimately, anyways).
It really sucks. Titanfall got me really excited, and Sunset Overdrive looks like it has potential to be a great load of fun. Halo was the first game to get me hooked on gaming in general, and I feel like I'm leaving a very important thing behind (I know I shouldn't be petty about this kind of stuff, but I'm sentimental line that).
Microsoft shouldn't have fired that guy on Twitter saying all the pro-"always-online" tweets. He would've made a great spokesperson.
I really want to continue liking Xbox, I'm trying so hard right now. But the always-online DRM and prioritization of the western market is turning me to the opposite side. I don't care for the used games section since there's no retailer that sells such in where I live (not legitimately, anyways).
It really sucks. Titanfall got me really excited, and Sunset Overdrive looks like it has potential to be a great load of fun. Halo was the first game to get me hooked on gaming in general, and I feel like I'm leaving a very important thing behind (I know I shouldn't be petty about this kind of stuff, but I'm sentimental line that).
Microsoft shouldn't have fired that guy on Twitter saying all the pro-"always-online" tweets. He would've made a great spokesperson.
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Okay, i think I'm caught up.
I wonder how much of xboxone that microsoft will be able to sell. I really hope that they sell so few to none which means we send a message to microsoft that their console sucks bad.
But to me, It feels like microsoft just got slaughtered this year. The kind that flashes brutality as a finisher via mortal kombat.
Cannot help but wonder if microsoft whatever board of directors they have has actually sat down and tried to install xbox one into their homes to see if it's ezmode or damn annoying to use at all. And how can they be fine with not owning games they bought, oh wait, they're fine with it because they dont' play games. What an headache, I was happier not reading about how dumb microsoft is. At least im glad i dont' work for microsoft becuase I'd get fired teh instant I tell them how dumb they sound.
I wonder how much of xboxone that microsoft will be able to sell. I really hope that they sell so few to none which means we send a message to microsoft that their console sucks bad.
But to me, It feels like microsoft just got slaughtered this year. The kind that flashes brutality as a finisher via mortal kombat.
Cannot help but wonder if microsoft whatever board of directors they have has actually sat down and tried to install xbox one into their homes to see if it's ezmode or damn annoying to use at all. And how can they be fine with not owning games they bought, oh wait, they're fine with it because they dont' play games. What an headache, I was happier not reading about how dumb microsoft is. At least im glad i dont' work for microsoft becuase I'd get fired teh instant I tell them how dumb they sound.
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Nintendo: If devs are worried about used game sales, they should make better games. Nintendo trolling confirmed.
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lol thats funny what Nintendo said but in a way its kinda true. i still have dark souls, skyrim, valkyria chronicles, all mass effects, all naughty dog games and all US tales of games and i have no desire to sell any of them right now.
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I don't know if you guys heard, on June 14, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Xbox Support posted on their twitter word for word.
"@dohertymark If your account is banned, you also forfeit the licenses to any games that have licenses tied to it as listed in the ToU.
^AC"
So basically, if you get banned from Xbox service, all your games are completely useless, and you have to pay for everything again, if I'm not mistaken all your saves will be wiped as well since it's tied to that particular account.
"@dohertymark If your account is banned, you also forfeit the licenses to any games that have licenses tied to it as listed in the ToU.
^AC"
So basically, if you get banned from Xbox service, all your games are completely useless, and you have to pay for everything again, if I'm not mistaken all your saves will be wiped as well since it's tied to that particular account.
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ToddTheAwesome wrote...
Plus gamers are the biggest suckers out of any consumer. I know from experience from working at GameStop the past 8 months. I can make someone spend at least 50 dollars more than they planned to if I wanted. A $100 price difference is nothing. Not trying to knock gamers since I'm one as well, but it's true.You make gamers sound like typical Japanese house wives in Hentai who can't turn down a door to door sales person. I don't know what kind of gamers you get as customers but this is not the generic gaming market. Gamers, when compared to the rest of the population, generally have lower income. I worked at another video game retailer last Q3+4 and there are rarely any of these "noobs" you claim out to be. Most people have some idea as to what they want, except for adults who are buying video games for their children.
Let's face it, even if $100 isn't a big deal to most people, why would the consumers spend an extra $100 for bs policy that forces people to connect to the internet every 24 hours?
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Tsamari
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Cyndas wrote...
I don't know if you guys heard, on June 14, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Xbox Support posted on their twitter word for word."@dohertymark If your account is banned, you also forfeit the licenses to any games that have licenses tied to it as listed in the ToU.
^AC"
So basically, if you get banned from Xbox service, all your games are completely useless, and you have to pay for everything again, if I'm not mistaken all your saves will be wiped as well since it's tied to that particular account.
um....What?
and here i was trying to put some hope in to the Xbox one.
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scrubmycar wrote...
ToddTheAwesome wrote...
Plus gamers are the biggest suckers out of any consumer. I know from experience from working at GameStop the past 8 months. I can make someone spend at least 50 dollars more than they planned to if I wanted. A $100 price difference is nothing. Not trying to knock gamers since I'm one as well, but it's true.You make gamers sound like typical Japanese house wives in Hentai who can't turn down a door to door sales person. I don't know what kind of gamers you get as customers but this is not the generic gaming market. Gamers, when compared to the rest of the population, generally have lower income. I worked at another video game retailer last Q3+4 and there are rarely any of these "noobs" you claim out to be. Most people have some idea as to what they want, except for adults who are buying video games for their children.
Let's face it, even if $100 isn't a big deal to most people, why would the consumers spend an extra $100 for bs policy that forces people to connect to the internet every 24 hours?
No, this is the generic gamer population whether you like it or not. This is GameStop, the place where at least 75% of the gamer population buys their stuff. I've been there for a year now, and I've seen all sorts of customers from all different states, not just the state I live in. Yes, they generally spend more than they initially plan when they come in. They buy accessories, season passes, power-up cards, pre-ordering games, and even games they didn't even plan on getting when walking in. Please don't try to skew it into some bogus view that fits your way of thinking. I'm just telling it like I''ve seen it.
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Well at this point even I have to say Microsoft seems to be what, intentionally sabotaging XBox for some reason. The region lock limits to only 21 countries is just downright ridiculous...
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ToddTheAwesome wrote...
scrubmycar wrote...
ToddTheAwesome wrote...
Plus gamers are the biggest suckers out of any consumer. I know from experience from working at GameStop the past 8 months. I can make someone spend at least 50 dollars more than they planned to if I wanted. A $100 price difference is nothing. Not trying to knock gamers since I'm one as well, but it's true.You make gamers sound like typical Japanese house wives in Hentai who can't turn down a door to door sales person. I don't know what kind of gamers you get as customers but this is not the generic gaming market. Gamers, when compared to the rest of the population, generally have lower income. I worked at another video game retailer last Q3+4 and there are rarely any of these "noobs" you claim out to be. Most people have some idea as to what they want, except for adults who are buying video games for their children.
Let's face it, even if $100 isn't a big deal to most people, why would the consumers spend an extra $100 for bs policy that forces people to connect to the internet every 24 hours?
This is GameStop, the place where at least 75% of the gamer population buys their stuff.
This pretty much just removed whatever validity you'll ever have in my eyes on this forum. If you think 75% of gamers purchase their games from gamestop, you should get your head checked out.
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scrubmycar wrote...
ToddTheAwesome wrote...
scrubmycar wrote...
ToddTheAwesome wrote...
Plus gamers are the biggest suckers out of any consumer. I know from experience from working at GameStop the past 8 months. I can make someone spend at least 50 dollars more than they planned to if I wanted. A $100 price difference is nothing. Not trying to knock gamers since I'm one as well, but it's true.You make gamers sound like typical Japanese house wives in Hentai who can't turn down a door to door sales person. I don't know what kind of gamers you get as customers but this is not the generic gaming market. Gamers, when compared to the rest of the population, generally have lower income. I worked at another video game retailer last Q3+4 and there are rarely any of these "noobs" you claim out to be. Most people have some idea as to what they want, except for adults who are buying video games for their children.
Let's face it, even if $100 isn't a big deal to most people, why would the consumers spend an extra $100 for bs policy that forces people to connect to the internet every 24 hours?
This is GameStop, the place where at least 75% of the gamer population buys their stuff.
This pretty much just removed whatever validity you'll ever have in my eyes on this forum. If you think 75% of gamers purchase their games from gamestop, you should get your head checked out.
Loving how you ignore the rest of my post though. But your first post removed any and all validity you had to begin with, so honestly, who cares what you think?
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you guys have misunderstood loads of things. watch the conferences for both PS4 and XBOX ONE. XBOX ONE is clearly explained what it does but PS4 presenters were showing all games and "This huge game collection" fuck you morons every game that comes out on PS4 is ofcourse gonna come out on XBOX ONE too so ther wont be a collection difference.
HOW MANY GAMES DO YOU KNOW THAT EXISTS ON PS3 AND NOT ON XBOX 360 ALSO HOW MUCH EXIST ON XBOX 360 AND NOT ON PS3?????
Microsoft was very honest and believed in their technology thats why their whole presentation was based on the new features of XBOX ONE.
-Mandatory Kinect: nope you can have KINECT if you want for ease of access
-Restricts used games & adds fees: Nope thats an awesome thing which you misunderstood guys. For the first time you and your friend is gonna play at the same time on he same disk you paid for basically. for example i bought Tekken TAG 2. on xbox 360 or even PS4 if i were to give my game to my friend I will not have the game anymore but on XBOX ONE my poor friend will be able to play with me from his home for something that i have paid for.
-installing games before you play them: damn it. in xbox 360 when you install a game it still requires DVD DISK but in XBOX ONE you will not need DISK anymore thats wot it means. so if you dont want to install its ok.
-no backwards compatibility i dont know wot you mean by this. compatibility for wot
Game does not need to be shared after 30 days i think it was your friend has to be on your friend list for 30+ days to be able to share game with him. wasnt it cuz of you lots im gonna watch it again lol your asking to may questions lol
so many people are against it but I have made my own justification. The only thing i didnt like about XBOX ONE was when playing from a friends house on your account you need to go online every 24 hours to do that something like that It confused me and didnt leav a good impression
i will buy it and see how things work out will share my EXPERIENCE here then
HOW MANY GAMES DO YOU KNOW THAT EXISTS ON PS3 AND NOT ON XBOX 360 ALSO HOW MUCH EXIST ON XBOX 360 AND NOT ON PS3?????
Microsoft was very honest and believed in their technology thats why their whole presentation was based on the new features of XBOX ONE.
-Mandatory Kinect: nope you can have KINECT if you want for ease of access
-Restricts used games & adds fees: Nope thats an awesome thing which you misunderstood guys. For the first time you and your friend is gonna play at the same time on he same disk you paid for basically. for example i bought Tekken TAG 2. on xbox 360 or even PS4 if i were to give my game to my friend I will not have the game anymore but on XBOX ONE my poor friend will be able to play with me from his home for something that i have paid for.
-installing games before you play them: damn it. in xbox 360 when you install a game it still requires DVD DISK but in XBOX ONE you will not need DISK anymore thats wot it means. so if you dont want to install its ok.
-no backwards compatibility i dont know wot you mean by this. compatibility for wot
Game does not need to be shared after 30 days i think it was your friend has to be on your friend list for 30+ days to be able to share game with him. wasnt it cuz of you lots im gonna watch it again lol your asking to may questions lol
so many people are against it but I have made my own justification. The only thing i didnt like about XBOX ONE was when playing from a friends house on your account you need to go online every 24 hours to do that something like that It confused me and didnt leav a good impression
i will buy it and see how things work out will share my EXPERIENCE here then
