Fiery_penguin_of_doom Posts
blind_assassin wrote...
I'm declaring myself a non-combatant for this debate but I would like to point out that there is such a thing as clean coal. I can't remember the specific process but it does involve a shit-ton of water that somehow pretty much eliminates all of the pollution from burning coal. Your attack on clean coal "hypocrisy" is out of ignorance but the idea is stupid anyway. Wind and solar are much superior options.I left something out. Though the way I said it I would be consider ignorant. Though I meant to say "In the United states, there is no such thing as "Clean Coal plants". You are correct that there is a method it's just that no C.C. plants exist in America at this time. Then with his stance on taxing Coal companies into "bankruptcy" for opening a new plant leaves a damned if you do and damned if you don't situation.
He could mandate that a "typical" coal plant would be taxed into oblivion while allowing plants the utilize the technology would be let off easy. I'll get right behind him on that (You'll actually see me standing beside him clapping)
ShaggyJebus wrote...
FpoD, I'm glad you're here, too. Your posts are often insightful, filled with passion, and say things that leave me thinking. Often, they render me speechless, forcing me to reconsider or rethink my own views. This last post is no different. It made me realize that I am idealistic about some things but abhor idealism in other things. When it comes to people in general, I like to be forgiving and try to look at the best. I want the highest amount of people pleased as possible. With politics, I am harsh and cold. I say that eventually in the future, the system will be changed, and that a third-party candidate may become President, but I refuse to believe that it will happen in my lifetime or even the next generation's lifetime.This disparity isn't good. If I can be optimistic about people, I should be able to be optimistic about politics, and if I can be pessimistic about politics, I should be able to be pessimistic about people.
We're both guilty of being idealist so we're more like minded than either of us thought (everything you said I can see myself reiterating at another point).
WhiteLion wrote...
Our current system in many ways is structured so as to keep down third parties. Political funding, ease of getting on the ballot, etc. Obviously, the GOP and Dems have no motive to change this. Ideological third parties are a bit of a lost cause. If a truly new party comes into existence, it will probably be either because someone is able to seize control of one of the major two parties from the inside and change things drastically(such as if Ron Paul had succeeded on a very large and wide scale) or because a charismatic and influential individual is able to become president, govern successfully, and stick around long enough to coalesce a party around him or herself(someone like Ross Perot or Michael Bloomberg becomes president running independently).You gotta change the system then. Going with the status quo never changes anything. Though, your example is definitely the more realistic but, leave the problem of how parties dislike individual thinkers (the democrats have tried to have Joe Liberman from the senate committee on homeland security and governmental affairs. He also lost his membership to the environment and public works committee). Why? Because he didn't back Obama. Though I guess good political navigation can get you through that.
From the things I have read economists believe that if we are heading for a depression and that it will be worse than the great depression. due to factors like
1. Our money wasn't nearly as worthless as it is now
2. Our economic backbone was in a different sector
the list goes on but, the point is the situation is a bit worse. Coupled with the fact the people nowadays don't really know how to do anything on their own. Our grandparents (and some of our parents) were flexible. Your dad knew how to fix just about anything. Your mother knew various things to help the family,etc. Nowadays, how many of us can even change out oil properly? I have seen people so inept that they can't even change a simple flat tire. We're more of a spoiled generation so things will be harder for us in the long run.
Now, the doomsayers (those who believe that a depression is only the beginning) are coming out and saying there is a high possibility that America will fracture (California-Utah, The east coat, the south,etc). Though I highly doubt it would occur but, the possibility can occur. The south tried to split once before so what's to say they wouldn't try again if the U.S. became crippled due to the fiscal crisis (people losing their jobs, homes, can't afford basic necessities, a growing dissent that the Federal government can't do the job anymore). Nothing is impossible.
1. Our money wasn't nearly as worthless as it is now
2. Our economic backbone was in a different sector
the list goes on but, the point is the situation is a bit worse. Coupled with the fact the people nowadays don't really know how to do anything on their own. Our grandparents (and some of our parents) were flexible. Your dad knew how to fix just about anything. Your mother knew various things to help the family,etc. Nowadays, how many of us can even change out oil properly? I have seen people so inept that they can't even change a simple flat tire. We're more of a spoiled generation so things will be harder for us in the long run.
Now, the doomsayers (those who believe that a depression is only the beginning) are coming out and saying there is a high possibility that America will fracture (California-Utah, The east coat, the south,etc). Though I highly doubt it would occur but, the possibility can occur. The south tried to split once before so what's to say they wouldn't try again if the U.S. became crippled due to the fiscal crisis (people losing their jobs, homes, can't afford basic necessities, a growing dissent that the Federal government can't do the job anymore). Nothing is impossible.
Am I weird for expecting the link to show a vid of a kid being beat down by a teacher?
If he attacked her or similar action that could justify he defending herself. She shouldn't be sued. Kids are fucking crazy nowadays. Give a kid a bad grade and the motherfucker tries to kill you the next day.
It's not like like she walked up and choke-slammed him out of no-where.
If he attacked her or similar action that could justify he defending herself. She shouldn't be sued. Kids are fucking crazy nowadays. Give a kid a bad grade and the motherfucker tries to kill you the next day.
It's not like like she walked up and choke-slammed him out of no-where.
Shaggy
I'm glad I have people like you and Whitelion to butt heads with. Keeps my feet on the ground.
I gotta nitpick though. Raising taxes in a fiscal crisis is the best way to continue a fiscal crisis. People are losing their jobs and their homes. Their credit card rates are getting raised,etc,etc. The absolute LAST thing they need is higher taxes. You can tax the rich or the companies and the only thing it will do is place the extra burden on the tax payers. Companies are impossible to tax directly as they will just fire employees or pass the cost onto the consumer.
Which works into my grip about Obama. The man plans on raising taxes which we can't afford. Then there is the new "new deal" that is being talked about. Some economists state that the original "new deal" actually perpetuated the great depression and stalled the economic recovery. With this "new deal" following the pattern of the first. We could be in this crisis until most of the forum members are into their late 20's, early 30's
Speaking of his spending plans. Health care, as you already know when it comes to these things you (shaggy) and I are on opposite sides. You represent the collective (greater good) while I represent the individual.
When it comes to socialized medicine what are we going to do about people who are HIV positive or AIDS positive? Treatment is extremely expensive. So what are we supposed to do? Give everyone the treatment and take more from the tax payers? Give to some? A few? What about other diseases like cancer? Do we throw everything and anything at ever case? Do we leave it up to the doctor to decide who should get what and how much? There is also the question of coma victims. For the people who don't want to pull the plug. Are we supposed to continue to pay for their decision? What about the average fat bastard who didn't want to eat properly(wolfing down Bic Macs & Whoppers) ? Am I suppose to pay for his decision to clog his arteries with fat?
That doesn't even include the average medications that people are on everything from blood thinners like Warfarin to E.D. treatment like Cialis? You know that if things like Viagra or Cialis are left out of the "coverage" then people will sue and jam up the legal system until they can get their erections courtesy of the taxpayers. So who gets the name brand pills? Who gets the generics? Speaking of pills..what about bitch control pills? Abortions? Are people who find birth control & abortions against their religion (practicing Catholics,etc) supposed to pay for things they find morally unacceptable? What about "elective" surgeries like gender swaps? (same thing with E.D. treatment people will sue until it's covered). Breast implants? Penis extensions?
How will resources be distributed? Not every hospital can be equipped with top of the line machines. Some hospitals specialize in a specific field like Saint Joseph's Hospital in Atlanta specializes in cardiac treatments. Is every hospital supposed to be top of the line? Are only a few places supposed to remain really well equipped while the rest remain like basic clinics? How will doctors & nurses be distributed?
Everybody being healthy and happy is a noble goal but, personal responsibility is missing from how this would be implemented. Canadians and Europeans can tout how their system is so great but, they leave out a couple key details. People with cancer and other illnesses are forced to wait 6 weeks before they can start treatment. Their "free" health care puts a huge drain on their economies.
Energy policy: when I hear Obama talk about "clean coal" I can't help but, laugh HARD. While he's at it why doesn't he come up with a way to fuck for virginity? I would like to introduce Obama to a little thing called reality. If Obama is willing to believe in this myth I wonder what other myths he believes in? He is also a hypocrite when it comes to supporting coal. He supports "clean coal" during a campaign rally but, in an interview he had during the same campaign he said
So does he support the use of coal or does he want to remove the coal industry entirely (seeing as there isn't a "clean coal" plant in the country). It's also a hypocrisy to support yet, be a part of the global warming crowd. His other "energy policies" are complete trash as well (cap & trade,etc).
Don't even get my started on the "Civilian security" plan.
Hell, even Bill Clinton points out Obama's say one thing do another tactics.
Is this enough to hate the guy, or do I need to add to my argument?
On the "Lesser of two evil" argument. The same two parties have done the same talking points, gone after the same crowds, propose the same tired arguments and promises that they always have. Where is the "change" Obama was suppose to bring? Looks just like any other democratic campaign (except in stead of an old white guy, it was a Milano). Lets try an an exercise
Flip a coin. Head can be democrats and tails can be republicans. Whichever side the coin lands on. That is the party that is going to fuck you in the ass. Flip the coin again. Flip it again. Flip it a couple more times. Notice a pattern? The party (side) may change but, in the end. You're still getting fucked in the ass. Wanna know the secret to stop getting screwed? Don't "flip the coin". If you want REAL change instead of someone telling you what you want to hear for your vote (every politician does this) then you have to break the cycle. Nothing is going to change when you vote democrat for 4-8 years then you go republican 4-8 years then go back to democrat for another 4-8 years. You still have republicans acting like republicans and democrats still acting like democrats. Nothing changes but the faces, the names, and the trends (high school never ends...Oh Oh, Oh Oh Oh-Oh, Oh Oh Oh-Oh, Oh Oh Oh-Oh)
I know a wall of text. I'm sorry.
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I'm glad I have people like you and Whitelion to butt heads with. Keeps my feet on the ground.
I gotta nitpick though. Raising taxes in a fiscal crisis is the best way to continue a fiscal crisis. People are losing their jobs and their homes. Their credit card rates are getting raised,etc,etc. The absolute LAST thing they need is higher taxes. You can tax the rich or the companies and the only thing it will do is place the extra burden on the tax payers. Companies are impossible to tax directly as they will just fire employees or pass the cost onto the consumer.
Which works into my grip about Obama. The man plans on raising taxes which we can't afford. Then there is the new "new deal" that is being talked about. Some economists state that the original "new deal" actually perpetuated the great depression and stalled the economic recovery. With this "new deal" following the pattern of the first. We could be in this crisis until most of the forum members are into their late 20's, early 30's
Speaking of his spending plans. Health care, as you already know when it comes to these things you (shaggy) and I are on opposite sides. You represent the collective (greater good) while I represent the individual.
When it comes to socialized medicine what are we going to do about people who are HIV positive or AIDS positive? Treatment is extremely expensive. So what are we supposed to do? Give everyone the treatment and take more from the tax payers? Give to some? A few? What about other diseases like cancer? Do we throw everything and anything at ever case? Do we leave it up to the doctor to decide who should get what and how much? There is also the question of coma victims. For the people who don't want to pull the plug. Are we supposed to continue to pay for their decision? What about the average fat bastard who didn't want to eat properly(wolfing down Bic Macs & Whoppers) ? Am I suppose to pay for his decision to clog his arteries with fat?
That doesn't even include the average medications that people are on everything from blood thinners like Warfarin to E.D. treatment like Cialis? You know that if things like Viagra or Cialis are left out of the "coverage" then people will sue and jam up the legal system until they can get their erections courtesy of the taxpayers. So who gets the name brand pills? Who gets the generics? Speaking of pills..what about bitch control pills? Abortions? Are people who find birth control & abortions against their religion (practicing Catholics,etc) supposed to pay for things they find morally unacceptable? What about "elective" surgeries like gender swaps? (same thing with E.D. treatment people will sue until it's covered). Breast implants? Penis extensions?
How will resources be distributed? Not every hospital can be equipped with top of the line machines. Some hospitals specialize in a specific field like Saint Joseph's Hospital in Atlanta specializes in cardiac treatments. Is every hospital supposed to be top of the line? Are only a few places supposed to remain really well equipped while the rest remain like basic clinics? How will doctors & nurses be distributed?
Everybody being healthy and happy is a noble goal but, personal responsibility is missing from how this would be implemented. Canadians and Europeans can tout how their system is so great but, they leave out a couple key details. People with cancer and other illnesses are forced to wait 6 weeks before they can start treatment. Their "free" health care puts a huge drain on their economies.
Energy policy: when I hear Obama talk about "clean coal" I can't help but, laugh HARD. While he's at it why doesn't he come up with a way to fuck for virginity? I would like to introduce Obama to a little thing called reality. If Obama is willing to believe in this myth I wonder what other myths he believes in? He is also a hypocrite when it comes to supporting coal. He supports "clean coal" during a campaign rally but, in an interview he had during the same campaign he said
So does he support the use of coal or does he want to remove the coal industry entirely (seeing as there isn't a "clean coal" plant in the country). It's also a hypocrisy to support yet, be a part of the global warming crowd. His other "energy policies" are complete trash as well (cap & trade,etc).
Don't even get my started on the "Civilian security" plan.
Hell, even Bill Clinton points out Obama's say one thing do another tactics.
Is this enough to hate the guy, or do I need to add to my argument?
On the "Lesser of two evil" argument. The same two parties have done the same talking points, gone after the same crowds, propose the same tired arguments and promises that they always have. Where is the "change" Obama was suppose to bring? Looks just like any other democratic campaign (except in stead of an old white guy, it was a Milano). Lets try an an exercise
Flip a coin. Head can be democrats and tails can be republicans. Whichever side the coin lands on. That is the party that is going to fuck you in the ass. Flip the coin again. Flip it again. Flip it a couple more times. Notice a pattern? The party (side) may change but, in the end. You're still getting fucked in the ass. Wanna know the secret to stop getting screwed? Don't "flip the coin". If you want REAL change instead of someone telling you what you want to hear for your vote (every politician does this) then you have to break the cycle. Nothing is going to change when you vote democrat for 4-8 years then you go republican 4-8 years then go back to democrat for another 4-8 years. You still have republicans acting like republicans and democrats still acting like democrats. Nothing changes but the faces, the names, and the trends (high school never ends...Oh Oh, Oh Oh Oh-Oh, Oh Oh Oh-Oh, Oh Oh Oh-Oh)
I know a wall of text. I'm sorry.
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MidgarKonotsu wrote...
Webcam girls = Stupid. Fucking with Webcam Girls = Hella funKeyboard on head! Keyboard on head!
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animeholic1 wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
I celebrate a holiday that just so happens to land on the same day as Christmas. A.G.E.D. (Atheist Gift Exchange Day). It's not an official holiday but, I'm hoping it'll take off just like Tim Buckley and Winter-een-mas. Though I do buy gifts for my non-atheist friends. We who celebrate A.G.E.D. don't discriminate based on faith.Here's a short comic for the lulz.
Such is the tragedy of my species. Some of us...just aren't very bright. What do you expect of a species that wears formal cloths to the beach?
Dante1214 wrote...
I don't think that bringing McCain into the argument is much good, if I recall correctly, before the election, F_PoD said he was going 3rd party. Could be misremembering, though.
You would be correct Dante. I voted Libertarian. I stuck to my principals, ideals. I voted for what I logically believe was the best opportunity to realize a better America. Despite this mentality of "voting third party is wasting a vote" it's the principal of the matter. I wasn't going to vote between douchebag 1 and douchbag 2
WhiteLion wrote...
As for the usual whining about the "liberal media"(if indeed the media is indeed as liberal as its accusers claim), let me ask you this: does the media have a responsibility to the public to try and treat both sides equally? Should we advance state enforcement of equal media coverage, as is already done on network television? Ultimately, media companies need to make money(in fact, Friedman might argue that their highest responsibility is to make money without engaging in illegal market practices). If liberality was significantly hurting the constituency of the mainstream media, they would do things differently. But as it is, people read the Washington Post, and not the Washington Times. If America is fed up with liberal media, then people should start buying conservative newspapers. I think in the case of this election people were legitimately more interested in stories about Obama. He was new, he was a novelty in some ways. McCain was the old veteran.Officials in office have been attempting to shut down or ruin any conservative view point. Everything from trying to start their own talk radio (Air America) which basically fell flat on it face because Liberal talking points are nothing be screaming about how conservatives are evil, uncaring, intolerant,etc. Politicians can sell their points to the masses but, when you sit down and study them they fall apart. How else would you explain the success of Rush and Hannity in talk radio? How else would you explain the constant attempts of Liberal democrats attempting to pass the fairness doctrine every year? Liberals don't like competition in their media. They want us to take what they say as law. Media should be impartial and unbiased. Otherwise they are telling the mindless masses what to think. You know damn well I'm against the expansion of the government in any capacity. Since if the government got involved in media you know that it would only be a fairness doctrine that would be inforced. CNN could keep being Liberal. Fox would have to have a Liberal person sitting besides their anchors.
WhiteLion wrote...
As for equal representation, I have no idea what you are thinking. The system of government we have is set up to be a representative democracy. We have more safeguards against excessive majority rule than most states(the senate, federalism), but how does forcing "equal" representation further the ideals of the US? It's not democracy if the vote doesn't count, and it's not liberty if the voters aren't free to choose whatever candidates they wish. You can think that they are foolish certainly, but to say that it is "unfair" is nonsense.Liberty and Freedom require intelligent people who are willing to fight for those ideals. The average American is barely capable of wiping themselves. Everything from giving up liberty for safety. Giving up their rights so big brother can protect them. The fact that you'll be fired from your job or sued into fiscal ruin if you exercise your freedom of speech. If you read the papers The founding fathers wrote in their respective times you would understand why they would be rolling over in their graves if they new what we did with the opportunity for freedom & liberty they gave us.
WhiteLion wrote...
The rest of the post seems to be either insulting Obama supporters, or selective ranting about the horror of Obama's policies. I tried to discuss the totality of Obama's associations and their implications as well as the importance of trying to approach these subjects from a rational standpoint. If you'd like to debate the ethical and economic merits of Obama's economic policy by examining in detail the possibilities and their relation to economic and moral theory, I'd be glad to participate. However, if you plan to shout down the opposition with insults and specious talking points, I don't really think there is anything else to be said.Doesn't really matter since it's already come to pass. Obama was able to convince the lemmings and various other idiots to come out in droves to vote for him. I'm not saying that only idiots and lemmings voted for him. I respect your points of view even though we are polar opposites. I'm just saying that the uneducated came out to vote in legions and with their numbers the intelligent voters are outnumbered in large margins. To me it shows the death of a true democracy since all it takes is Charisma and some backing and you can become president. By "true democracy" I mean that every voter is knowledgeable about the candidates. Most Americans can't even answer the question "Name one senator of your respective state" they'll draw a blank. Those people have absolutely no purpose in voting.
Maybe in the end I'm blowing this all out of proportion. Then again maybe I'm seeing something that nobody else can see. I can only come to the conclusion that the information in front of me gives me. Everything I have heard,seen and read plus my own logic have lead me to this conclusion "Obama was a bad choice for America". If I turn out to be wrong and he makes America better in my eyes then I'll change sides and support him.
I celebrate a holiday that just so happens to land on the same day as Christmas. A.G.E.D. (Atheist Gift Exchange Day). It's not an official holiday but, I'm hoping it'll take off just like Tim Buckley and Winter-een-mas. Though I do buy gifts for my non-atheist friends. We who celebrate A.G.E.D. don't discriminate based on faith.
WhiteLion wrote...
Pay attention to the kinds of things he says or hints at: moving affirmative action to being based on class, more gently echoing the famous speech of Bill Cosby when he famously declared that the fate of African Americans would not get better until they learned to value education over shoes.When I hear Obama "hint" at anything I hear him "hint" that the ideals America was founded on are going out the window and we will become just like Europe, especially France. I hear "I'm going to tax success" "Spread the wealth". I could go on.
Another point I want to make is the biased coverage of him in the news. Through various news mediums I noticed that the Liberal media treats Obama like he's the damn Messiah. For the longest time you couldn't open a newspaper or turn on the tv without Obama being right in your fucking face. While McCain was pushed deep into the newspaper or was given a fraction of the air time to the all the sucking up that Obama got.
I hate the fact that people follow him so blindly (Obamamania) as if he can do no wrong. He could eat a baby while stomping on a bag full of kittens on live television and everybody would be in times square cheering.
This whole election was really depressing. On one hand America is decided between a giant douche and a turd sandwich. The other depressing part is that lemmings came out in droves. Spurred on by this vague talk of "change". Nobody questions what kind of change he's talking about but, as long as it's something different they're on board!
I hate the fact that he nominated Hilary into a higher office. The last thing America needed was another jackass Clinton to fuck things up worse than they already are. Between Obama, Clinton, Pelosi, Reid, etc we basically have a dictatorship, one political party basically rules everything. Obama can dictate just about anything and the only opposition he has to face are the few republicans that managed to hold their seats. Before you say "You don't like it because their Democrat", you would be wrong. I don't like any party having such a majority. They could be Libertarian and I still wouldn't like it. Equal representation is the key to a fair government. If it's 75/25 it's not "equal" especially when you don't need the whole 75% to pass a bill.
elfen lied wrote...
as usual F-POD gets the one better trophy .. well doneMidgarKonotsu wrote...
Waar wrote...
shotgun being the dude.Sorry Waar, but I made you the girl to justify all of our man crushes on you.
He has a point. Though Waar is a manly man. A giant living thing of testosterone. I'm just the supporting actor not on the movie poster.
Gerrard wrote...
As I see things:If he was 13 when Ayers was doing his thing, Obama gets off clean there. He didn't do anything.
Or Wright, you can love someone for the good, hate them for the bad, and balance things out to see where you stand. Since I never went to his church, I'll assume there was enough good to explain his actions. Either way, Obama didn't do anything wrong that I can see. It's kinda like, "If you don't like the president, get out of the country." It's never a simple yes/no decision to leave something.
So you see nothing wrong with associating with a unrepentant terrorist? So..Lets take Timothy McVeigh for example. So you would find nothing wrong with a presidential candidate associating with him?
You also see nothing wrong with attending a church for twenty years with a radical pastor who has gone on seriously anti-american rants. There is not logic in staying in a church like that to ONLY disown Wright AFTER a political shitstorm. Obama can say he didn't drink the Kool-aid but, I know thats a load of bullshit.
Damn! I feel like Charlton Heston on a planet full of Apes.
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Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
would you people REALLY want a mini F_pod running around?Fuck Yeah!
Sure, why not. :)
Alright, alright. Gotta find a girl who wants to have a kid with me. I can only hope he'll become a famous political revolutionary like Che Guevara except not for communism but, libertarian ideals.
Ugh, No I gotta figure out a name for the little runt.
blind_assassin wrote...
No offense man, but that's a fucking stupid reason to hate someone. He was like 13 when Bill Ayers was a terrorist and it's not his fault that Rev. Wright is insane. Neither of those should even factor in to anything unless you're a parent that's concerned about your kid's choice of friends and aren't quite sure about that Obama kid. It's fine to hate him and you have other reasons but trim the fat and leave those "I'm desperate to justify my hatred" reasons out.The fact that he started his political career in Bill Ayers home. Is a stupid reason? So a man detonates bombs in America and suddenly its "Forgive and forget" (because it's Obama). The man never said he was sorry or that he regretted his actions. No, he said he wished he had planted MORE bombs. If Ayers was involved with any other candidate everybody would be screaming bloody murder and trying to do even more against them than the flak Obama is taking.
On Rev. Wright. You're right it's not Obama's fault that Wright was insane BUT, he remained a member of his church for 20 years. At ANY POINT he could have walked out when Wright went on his anti-american anti-white rants. He choose to stay. It's not like Wright went "insane" overnight. He's been like this for a very long time. Obama shows his dedication to this "insane" guy. He even called him his mentor. If you wanted to protect your golden boy you shouldn't be insulting his mentor.
Anyways, Sorry MY BAD, My bad everybody. Sorry. I apologize for "thinking" and using "logic". I'll try to refrain from using those.
First, the news stations reported the guy throwing his shoes.
Today, the news stations are reporting on the frenzy that was created by the guy throwing his shoe. This thing spread faster than anything I've ever heard of.
Today, the news stations are reporting on the frenzy that was created by the guy throwing his shoe. This thing spread faster than anything I've ever heard of.
Dante1214 wrote...
I didn't think racism was powerful enough in most people.For a lot of people it's not racism to hate the guy. Take me for example, I hate Obama with a fiery passion that is only rivaled by all the stars in the universe combined. I couldn't give two shits about his race. I hate the man because of his policies, his political background (came from the most corrupt cities in the country), his dealings with Rev. Wright & Bill Ayers,etc ,etc. I could write a book on all the reasons I hate Obama but, race isn't one of them.
Though racism is far from gone. Blacks, Whites, Hispanics are all just as racist as the other. Though it's ingrained into our minds that only whites are racist.
As Christopher Tidus once said
Chris Tidus wrote...
I'm whitey, and I apologize
Ayase wrote...
I don't think it's true. Really anything they bring up now is probably just crap. With all the resources the government has I'm sure they would have found out any dirty laundry before the election. I just hope some freak thing doesn't happen and McCain goes in, I hate that guy.McCain can't become the president. If Obama is impeached, killed, dies, etc then Biden would take his place. The list goes like this
Vice President and President of the Senate
Speaker of the House of Representatives
President pro tempore of the Senate
Secretary of State
Secretary of the Treasury
Secretary of Defense
Attorney General
Secretary of the Interior
Secretary of Agriculture
Secretary of Commerce
Secretary of Labor
Secretary of Health and Human Services
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development
Secretary of Transportation
Secretary of Energy
Secretary of Education
Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Secretary of Homeland Security
Thanks to The Presidential Succession Act of 1947
