Fiery_penguin_of_doom Posts
spaxxor wrote...
ShaggyJebus wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
We have Black Ceo's, black politicians and now a black president elect. They can't say "America is still racist. Jesse and his crew still operate under the idea that institutionalized racism still exists.Institutionalized racism may not be rampant, but racism in America is still very strong, at least here in the South. And that pisses me off. A lot.
It's unbelievable how many times I heard, "I won't vote for Obama because he's black," or something to that extent (usually with much worse wording). Also, we still have a lot of people who think that Obama will be assassinated because he's black. (Some people may have seen a recent topic about the subject that didn't go too well.)
dude, it's not only in the south... some states above the mason/dixon line actually believe that they are southern. my state is one of them, Pennsylvania is the pseudo south, only on top of a mountain. Racism is thick enough here you could cut it with my ragingly hard cock.
Have a talk with Ziggy then. She believes the exact opposite.
ShaggyJebus wrote...
Racism makes sense (as crazy as that may seem), but it's how far people go with racism that boggles the mind. If a person just didn't like blacks or Hispanics, that'd be one thing, but you have people searching for blacks and Hispanics to beat up, having large celebrations where they talk about how much they hate blacks and Hispanics, doing every bad thing they can think of when they run into a black or Hispanic at night, etc. The amount of hatred is what's odd.I agree the Racism makes sense though racism isn't always about the color of skin. Every new "race" that comes to America is treated poorly for a short while until the next ones come in. Everything from Asian, Jewish, German, Italian, etc, etc, etc were all treated poorly. It's because of the poor treatment of the Italians that lead to the creation of the mob.
I can kind of sympathize with White Supremacists who follow a "white pride" mantra. Mostly because they feel like they are being attacked. The whole push on multiculturalism while shutting off white culture can feel like an attack. Basically, forcing white people to feel guilty for things their ancestors did in the past. They also feel like other races are getting a handout while whites have to earn their bread. have a talk with one (not one of those that says "I hate'em just cuz I hate'em"). Look for one that actually explains it. You may not agree with their outlook but, you will definitely understand.
If any board member looks anything like L it's Raze.
Also Fluffy Man L is serious. I don't think you have ever made a serious statement.
Also Fluffy Man L is serious. I don't think you have ever made a serious statement.
WhiteLion wrote...
The government's idea of "rich" is people who earn over 250K a year. So everyone between 250K to "*Snap* I just bought you" rich just paid 90% of the federal income this year. They will also do it next year.
It's not a matter of if they can handle the taxes or not. Its a matter of why is it somehow acceptable to tax people based on a single characteristic when we would find it unacceptable to tax people over any other characteristic.
It's not a matter of if they can handle the taxes or not. Its a matter of why is it somehow acceptable to tax people based on a single characteristic when we would find it unacceptable to tax people over any other characteristic.
I don't think the government is bankrupting people who make 250k a year.
But otherwise, what's the alternative?
It's not that it's bankrupting them they have money. It's just morally unacceptable but, since people are jealous of those that have leads us to this general mentality that the rich should pay more. Instead of people wanting to become rich we have this mentality that because they are rich they are never paying their "fair share" of taxes. Thus anytime there is a tax increase it's always on the rich. It may not bankrupt the now but, eventually it will.
Alternative. Fairtax (i.e. National Retail Sales tax) Read previous post for a general rundown. Visit the site for more info.
Waar wrote...
what would you like people to be taxed for? income is the only fair and legal characteristic that should be considered... You make more therefore you should be better suited to pay more and help run your country. The government can't run on good will and dreams, no matter what anyone says.National retail sales tax. No taxes taken out of our income at 33c/$1 then a 7 cent sales tax on the state and county level (the level here probably higher where you live) which you pay 40% of every dollar you earn in taxes. The poor people have taxes taken out of their income and they get taxed on the food,cloths and gas they buy. So why not give everyone the entire paycheck then only tax people on the money they spend.
On a deeper level the removal of the other taxes (Death,gift,gas,inheritance) tax would lift a larger burden off the poor. A large sales tax would only really hit the expensive items like luxury cars and planes. Which would also include the large amount of money in the "underground economy" such as drug money and such that isn't accounted for in income tax. People could invest money towards whatever they want (IRA's or similar things if they were smart)
To alleviate the burden of the increase sales tax on items such a bread and milk. The government would write a check to every American equal to the amount of taxes they would pay on basic items up to the poverty level (the government will get the money back).
A side note: The Government saves money by eliminating the IRS and April's "tax day" would just be anther beautiful spring day.
tl;dr
I direct you here
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer
ShaggyJebus wrote...
It's unbelievable how many times I heard, "I won't vote for Obama because he's black," or something to that extent (usually with much worse wording). Also, we still have a lot of people who think that Obama will be assassinated because he's black. (Some people may have seen a recent topic about the subject that didn't go too well.)A lot of people also voted for him solely because he was black. Could have walked on stage said he was Jesus Christ and been shit faced drunk and there would still have been people voting for him "because he's black".
If he gets assassinated I'll blame his social policies. His ideas pissed off a lot of people A LOT. Though if he gets assassinated because he's black I wouldn't be surprised. At this point I'll keep my mouth shut to avoid pissing off a fuck ton of people.
People will always judge people who aren't the same. If we were all white we would all be judgmental of people with blond, brunette, or red hair. Everyone in the country has some bit of prejudice if not open racism. If you claim you aren't prejudice then you are a blatant liar. It's human nature to be skeptical of those who aren't like you.
ShaggyJebus wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
I want to see you run a multimillion and/or multinational company. Prove to me that any guy off the street can run such a company. Then you'll have a point but, as it stands the average guy off the street won't be able to run a company like that nor would they be able to successfully build a company up to that level even if they were given every opportunity. Some people just can't do certain things. I can drive any vehicle below a 18 wheeler that isn't a motorcycle and I can manage my finances. That doesn't mean I have the ability to drive a Indy race car or manage a bank.An average guy off the street may not be able to run a multinational company, but just because a person can, does that mean he should be treated like a gift from God? People who do construction are nothing like the guy who's in charge of Wal-Mart, but I respect the people who do construction a lot more than the guy who runs Wal-Mart. The guy runs a huge company and makes a ton of money. So what? He didn't start the company. He didn't get it where it is today. He just came in and took over. He may know how to make good business decisions, but he doesn't do anything to help people, and he doesn't put himself at risk. Of course, Wal-Mart is a shitty company, so it's a little unfair to use it as an example of why I don't respect the people who run the huge businesses, but a lot of other businesses are just as shitty as Wal-Mart, or close, or even worse.
Also, you and I may not be able to drive an Indy race car or manage a bank, but if we wanted to, we could probably learn how to do those things and be able to do them. It might take time, but we could learn, just like the people who do those things did.
So just because you don't make bad decisions when running your company somehow you don't deserve to keep what you earn. Now what about the small businesses? Do the owners of those companies deserve to have their income taken from them? Those people work every day in their stores/office/where ever. Then again the idea to envision a fat guy in some office building with a suit every time you think of a "rich guy". How about the guy who runs a construction company? He has to constantly secure contracts and manage the various aspect of his company. How about a guy who opens a bar or pub in a major city. In a good year he could gross into the governments idea of "rich" then he gets taxed for being "rich"
The government's idea of "rich" is people who earn over 250K a year. So everyone between 250K to "*Snap* I just bought you" rich just paid 90% of the federal income this year. They will also do it next year.
It's not a matter of if they can handle the taxes or not. Its a matter of why is it somehow acceptable to tax people based on a single characteristic when we would find it unacceptable to tax people over any other characteristic.
WhiteLion wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
g-money wrote...
Yea, we're good.Back on topic, I wonder if McCain's retiring now. He's really old, and that scared a lot of people under the condition that if he died in office, Palin would take over.
From the senate? I don't think he will. 165K a year is a hard paycheck to walk away from.
The only question I have lingering is. Would McCain have done better if Mike Huckabee was his VP instead of Palin? The few Female votes that Palin netted him after Clinton's defeat probably walked away as fast as they joined.
Pretty much no one in the senate actually needs the money. They collect it and it's nice, but being rich is generally helpful in campaign funding. McCain married and heiress and the 165k is pocket change for him.
The easy, do nothing, job then? Not like he has anything else to do. Golf? Senators get a lot of vacation time. Maybe he will take up model ship building. When you boil it down all the whole thing is old men talking to other old men for a few hours and getting paid more than most of us will earn in a few years (total)
HentaiElder wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
July 23Same.
You just went up a point on the awesomeness scale. You know, only cool kids like us are born on July 23rd.
g-money wrote...
Yea, we're good.Back on topic, I wonder if McCain's retiring now. He's really old, and that scared a lot of people under the condition that if he died in office, Palin would take over.
From the senate? I don't think he will. 165K a year is a hard paycheck to walk away from.
The only question I have lingering is. Would McCain have done better if Mike Huckabee was his VP instead of Palin? The few Female votes that Palin netted him after Clinton's defeat probably walked away as fast as they joined.
g-money wrote...
Yes, I also know that our "suntanned" president is very "young" and "handsome". That I agree was a careless statement. Sorry, I don't got a stick up my butt, but not for the lack of someone trying to put it there. A joke doesn't have to be funny, but there are bad jokes out there, and your post struck me as a bad joke.Understandable, everyone tells a bad joke from time to time. Now that this is settled I believe we're cool again, correct?
g-money wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
Yes, it was in jest. The suggestion of a couple people from a Hentai forum could run the country better than previous presidents is an obviously humorous statement. Calm down and go smoke a bowl,fap, play a game or something. Damn.Lean to take a joke then. Not every joke will be funny to fucking person in the whole world. It was a joke not a careless statement. The Italian president makes careless statements. I on the other hand made an intentional joke pointing out the fact that I am disappointed by the actions of presidents going back as far as Carter.
Get the stick out of your ass. It can't be comfortable.
Most men are horny people. Hell, they will even fuck other men if a woman isn't around and if nobody else is around they will create something to fuck. Unless they are too lazy to build something to fuck. Then they will just fap.
WhiteLion wrote...
Intelligence is the big one for me. I'm not going to bypass every girl who isn't a genius, but I don't want an idiot, no matter how hot she is. I'd hang myself from all the inane conversations I'd have to go through.Girls who are overly self-centered are also out.
I agree with my brother from another mother, also a couple similar interests doesn't hurt either.
Arizth wrote...
g-money wrote...
and I hope that Hilary tries again.Hehe, Hillary.
Oh, wait.
You were serious?
I don't think so. I'd like females to get a good representative for their first time in office. Not Hillary and her sniper fire.
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
The son of a Kenyan immigrant just won the presidential race how is that not progressive? So we won't be a "progressive" country until we elect a Hispanic, an Asian, a gay or any combination of things that aren't straight, white, men.It's a step, take it as the fact that 50 years ago blacks couldn't even vote. Now, we have a black guy as the president elect. Now be happy for Obama instead of pissing on his shoes.
I have quite a bit of respect for your opinions, Firey, but that is bullshit.
Pure and utter bullshit.
Saying that a black man being elected President is in any way progress is bullshit. This isn't progress, not in the usual sense of the word.
It's the "No child left behind" approach to Politics.
It can be summed up in this simple picture:

Every time someone says that electing a "Black man president" is "progress", and someone says "Now I can honestly tell my kids they can be whatever they want to be when they grow up", it amounts to saying "Haha, lookit that retard in office. If HE can do it, why can't I?"
It is NOT a big deal the Obama was elected. It's a nice thing, sure, but all the hubbub about it only serves to drive home the point that humans, and americans in general, remain xenophobic, bigoted, bastards.
God, I can't wait until the internet generation grows up.
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I get the feeling that the way I ranted that is going to be misinterpreted.
Thank you, now I can go wash off this smell. Smells like a damn farm in here. You can't honestly think that I believe voting Obama is any form of "progress". C'mon I hated the guy from the start. The only "progress" that was made is the argument against affirmative action. Jesse Jackson and his crew can pack up and head home. We have Black Ceo's, black politicians and now a black president elect. They can't say "America is still racist. Jesse and his crew still operate under the idea that institutionalized racism still exists.
P.S. I reread what I wrote that you replied to. I meant to state a question instead of a statement "So we won't be a "progressive" country until we elect a Hispanic, an Asian, a gay or any combination of things that aren't straight, white, men?" My bad. Sorry everybody, my bad. Sorry
g-money wrote...
I don't joke, and read the news. The Obama party is seriously going for a tax cut rather than an increase in public speaking. You say Obama wants to do this and this, but you think that's on top of his priority list? Medicare and "free college" are issues that he addresses, I agree, but I won't be surprised if he tackled them years from now while solving the more pressing issues.Clinton promised tax cuts his entire campaign and the taxes were only raised. Politicians will tell you anything and everything you want to hear. Their job is to earn votes and stay popular. No president will run on the platform of "I'm going to raise your taxes". You may read the news but, you don't understand a politicians game.
g-money wrote...
You, becoming a better prez than the past presidents? I hope your P.S. was in jest because there's a limit to how arrogant one can be, and you've crossed it.Yes, it was in jest. The suggestion of a couple people from a Hentai forum could run the country better than previous presidents is an obviously humorous statement. Calm down and go smoke a bowl,fap, play a game or something. Damn.
WhiteLion wrote...
No, he argues that socialistic policies are "the road to serfdom" and thus lead to totalitarian government. He was writing in response to Britain's increased socialism post-WWII concerning its social policies. I don't think he was entirely right, after all, Sweden hasn't become a totalitarian regime yet, but he makes a lot of interesting points.A lot of European countries are basically socialist and they aren't totalitarian as well so it's not only Sweden. Sadly the store didn't have the book in stock (very little political material). While a socialist country may not use military force to maintain power. Economic control can be just as powerful as a soldier standing in the street with a gun. We could debate this until the end of time but, I'll just say I'll keep looking for the book.
ShaggyJebus wrote...
Fairness isn't about everyone paying the same amount or the same percentage. Fairness is about people paying what they can. Rich people can stand to give more. Even if they pay 90% of their income, they still have plenty of money. Besides, most of them don't "earn" their money. The idea that a man who sits in an office and makes phone calls for four hours a day makes a million times more than a man who builds hours for ten hours a day and suffers horrible body problems makes me sick, but it's what happens everyday, all over the country.I want to see you run a multimillion and/or multinational company. Prove to me that any guy off the street can run such a company. Then you'll have a point but, as it stands the average guy off the street won't be able to run a company like that nor would they be able to successfully build a company up to that level even if they were given every opportunity. Some people just can't do certain things. I can drive any vehicle below a 18 wheeler that isn't a motorcycle and I can manage my finances. That doesn't mean I have the ability to drive a Indy race car or manage a bank.
Ziggy beat me to it. 16 just isn't mature enough. After seeing the idiots that graduated after my class. I think we should increase schooling to more days a year and more years before they can graduated.
I'm rather disappointed that the ban is in effect.
There are studies out that show the difference between a single parent household vs a household with a gay couple. This is like comparing apples to oranges. The only common factor is that both are fruit (a.k.a the child is missing a significant factor).
I think more studies on the development of children need to be done before any real conclusion can be made that a household with a gay couple is any different than any other households. The studies could also come across methods to raise children in any household that could negatively affect the development of a child.
There are studies out that show the difference between a single parent household vs a household with a gay couple. This is like comparing apples to oranges. The only common factor is that both are fruit (a.k.a the child is missing a significant factor).
I think more studies on the development of children need to be done before any real conclusion can be made that a household with a gay couple is any different than any other households. The studies could also come across methods to raise children in any household that could negatively affect the development of a child.