Fiery_penguin_of_doom Posts
g-money wrote...
Yeah, a third out every annual income goes to taxes, then factor in social security, bills, food expenses, insurance, and how much are we left with? Less than half your income. I mean, taxing the rich more and more isn't really going to solve anything, but it's true that taxing the middle class has to stop because the standards of living are getting way too high. And no, the government doesn't want more spending but a lowering of taxes, there you err.Your joking right? The government wants to lower taxes? Social security is going broke (They won't ditch the program either), Obama wants socialized college (a.k.a "free college"), socialize medicine(a.k.a."Free healthcare"). Where is the money going to come from? The government already wastes so much money on overhead that the equivalent money could feed thousands in starving countries. The U.S. government spends money like a preteen with daddy's no-limit credit card. The sad thing is the average American doesn't even realize how bad they are getting screwed.
P.S. I think we should boot out Obama and elect the politically savvy Fakkuza to run the United States. Hell, Whitelion and myself alone could probably do a better job than the last two presidents at 2/3rds of the cost. As a last thought, Captain Falcon would be the head of the Justice department.
ShaggyJebus wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
You can't soak the rich forever because they will leave or go broke trying to pay the already unfair tax burden that will increase.The rich will go broke? The reason they are taxed more is because they can afford it. A person who has a net worth of over ten million dollars isn't going to go broke from paying taxes.
If you can afford your own island, I think you can stand to pay a little more than someone who will never in their lives be able to earn, cumulatively, a tenth of what you make a year.
I didn't say they will go broke now but, the government wants more spending. That money has to come from somewhere and they won't raise taxes on the middle class because we are the ones they depend on they won't do anything to really piss us off. Politicians will keep taxing the rich to pay for more spending. Who is going to stop them? The rich? The average American idiot thinks the rich aren't paying enough in taxes. Even though the top 15% of income earners pays 90% of the federal budget (trillions of dollars). We bitch about paying 33c/$1 they pay more than that out of every dollar they earn. Tell me how that is fair.
No matter how you look at it or try to spin it. The few are being taxed to support the "needs" of the many. Not only because they can afford the burden but, because they don't have the numbers to make any real dent in the political arena.
Before anyone claims I just support the rich and hate the poor or whatever idiotic idea from that tree of ideas. I support a national sales tax and abolishing of the income tax (look up FairTax).
The son of a Kenyan immigrant just won the presidential race how is that not progressive? So we won't be a "progressive" country until we elect a Hispanic, an Asian, a gay or any combination of things that aren't straight, white, men.
It's a step, take it as the fact that 50 years ago blacks couldn't even vote. Now, we have a black guy as the president elect. Now be happy for Obama instead of pissing on his shoes.
It's a step, take it as the fact that 50 years ago blacks couldn't even vote. Now, we have a black guy as the president elect. Now be happy for Obama instead of pissing on his shoes.
WhiteLion wrote...
Fiery, have you ever read "The Road to Serfdom" by Friedrich Hayek? I read it once for an econ class. Hayek basically argues that socialistic economic policies necessarily lead to totalitarian government policies. Hayek makes a lot of interesting points, and the book was influential in its time, praised by people such as Keynes and Orwell. You might find it to be an interesting read.As for Marx, he was visionary and laid out the ideal and system in many ways, but a lot of what he says on a detailed level is pretty wacky.
I'm heading towards a bookstore later. I'll see if they carry it. I'll also assume you meant to say "Socialistic economic policies don't necessarily lead to totalitarian government policies"
While it may not exactly lead to totalitarian policies. Any group in power seeks only to retain it's power. The Senate of Rome was concerned only with maintaining their power that they crippled the empire from within. Our government officials have proven that they seek nothing but, power and control. Everything from Bush's Patriot Act to Bill Clinton's use of the I.R.S. to silence any criticism. Even the attacks on the constitution (Silencing of speech, banning of gun ownership,etc). The government used to be a like a carpenter's hammer. The hammer can do nothing on its own. It takes the carpenter (the people) to use the hammer to accomplish things.
I see the nature of the U.S. Government and it's the proverbial "Give them an inch and they will take a foot". I really don't see how it's fair for the government to use force of arms to "spread the wealth". While we won't be having the army marching down our streets they will have the option of taking your money from you by force.
All socialism in the U.S. means is that taxes will go up from 33c/$1 to a higher rate. How will the poor and middle class who are already struggling be able to deal with increased taxes? You can't soak the rich forever because they will leave or go broke trying to pay the already unfair tax burden that will increase.
ZiggyOtaku wrote...
They say asian guys have small penis's :roll: I dunno, I've never really been attracted to asians. They don't pop out at me and make me drool. Spanish and white guys are about the only races that really stand out to me... :? Dunno why. It's probably the dark hair, but asians have dark hair too. -shrugs-
Facial characteristics are probably the reason. You probably just find the facial structure unattractive. Everyone has their own thing.
My senior prank. Myself and a few people swiped the tires off our principal's F-150 Truck.
Not a prank, but more like general dickery several guys swiped a bench from the main hallway and threw it through the living room window of the principals house (we really fucking hated him). I never found out who did it but, I have my suspicions.
Other pranks I have heard of was using a crane to place the principals car on the roof of the school (School was undergoing construction by adding a new section)
Welding the school's metal doors closed
Painting over the numbers on the locks of lockers (simple combination locks)
Itching powder in the cloths of people in Gym.
Just a few. Shenanigans are always fun.
Not a prank, but more like general dickery several guys swiped a bench from the main hallway and threw it through the living room window of the principals house (we really fucking hated him). I never found out who did it but, I have my suspicions.
Other pranks I have heard of was using a crane to place the principals car on the roof of the school (School was undergoing construction by adding a new section)
Welding the school's metal doors closed
Painting over the numbers on the locks of lockers (simple combination locks)
Itching powder in the cloths of people in Gym.
Just a few. Shenanigans are always fun.
Captain_Falcon wrote...
n3g4t1v0 wrote...
what the fuck is 4chan?Nothing, now stay on Fakku like a good boy.
yes, do what the captain says. Stay away unless you want to be so fucked up that you fap to goatse.
ShaggyJebus wrote...
Socialism by itself may not work, but incorporating Socialism into Capitalism seems to do very well. There are already a lot of Socialistic systems in our society.Two different systems that work on very different principals.
Socialism- As Karl Marx puts it "Is the transitional stage between Capitalism and Communism".
On top of that you have Social interventionism, Nationalizing all forms on production. I could go one for ages but, I'll try to shorten my thoughts.
Socialism isn't the cure for the ills of Capitalism. You kill capitalism with Socialism.
I was working. I drove to North Carolina then had to drive back to Georgia but, I still managed to vote.
Spiffy new machines though. All shiny and touch screeny.
I voted on everything from the national level all the way down to our coroner. Yeah, I even voted on our coroner. We're only had two murders in this city in the last ten years but, I'm confident this guy won't fuck things up.
I was a little disappointed on the numbers of Bob Barr. Though I'm not surprised the bastard never got his name or face out there. 7/10 American don't even know who Bob Barr is. He would have done better if 90% of Libertarians didn't vote John McCain just to try to keep Obama out of office. Stick to your principals you sons of bitches!
Spiffy new machines though. All shiny and touch screeny.
I voted on everything from the national level all the way down to our coroner. Yeah, I even voted on our coroner. We're only had two murders in this city in the last ten years but, I'm confident this guy won't fuck things up.
I was a little disappointed on the numbers of Bob Barr. Though I'm not surprised the bastard never got his name or face out there. 7/10 American don't even know who Bob Barr is. He would have done better if 90% of Libertarians didn't vote John McCain just to try to keep Obama out of office. Stick to your principals you sons of bitches!
ShaggyJebus wrote...
Dante1214 wrote...
iRadius wrote...
In Hawai'i, 'white folk' are treated like nerds and called 'Ha'ole,' which means 'not-breathing' 'ghost' 'pale' or, what the modern use of it, 'foreigner.'I know this because I live here. I came to the US when I was about 4-5 years old. My first impression on the first ever American I saw was 'Dekaijiri,' which means 'fatass.' Lol. No offence to Americans.
After a few years, I went to a school in the mainland. Seeing that everyone there was white, I was treated as this foreign kid and lived with stereotypes until I became 8 and went back here to Hawaii.
Last year, I went to visit Japan and went to Harajuku for cosplay and shopping, and when I was there, their were a lot of American tourists taking pics ofus and saw a lot of other American otaku taking pics of the girls.
That's all my experiences with Americans. . .
You know Hawaii is a state in the US, right? So Hawaiians are Americans.
From what I've heard, native Hawaiians still treat white people like trash, even if we are all members of the same country.
There is a group of Native Hawaiians that want to break away from the Union and become their own country again. My Niece lives out there with her husband and they claim that the natives will run you off the road if you aren't a "native".
Not surprised but, certainly not happy. I'm a mixture of various degrees of disappointed.
I'm upset over
Union "card Checks" (A.k.a Unionization through Intimidation). I'm a supporter of Unions but, the anonymous votes were to protect the voters from intimidation from management and other groups. If that is passed people will know how you will vote. There was a strong reason to keep those votes anonymous.
"Fairness Doctrine" I'm not even going to explain this one. Look it up yourself.
Amongst a few other things like the senate not being equal Republican/Democrat. I don't like one party having the ability to speed bills through the process. I want as close to a 50/50 split in the Senate and Congress just for the fact that it means their hands are tied thus they can't fuck things up anymore than they already are.
The silver lining for me is: Now that Obama is the next president, if anyone says America isn't the place where anybody can achieve anything. I have the right to kick their ass and I won't even be charged with disorderly conduct.
Anyways, Obama won congrats but, if he screws things up anymore than they already are I'll be the first one in line to put my foot up his ass.
I'm upset over
Union "card Checks" (A.k.a Unionization through Intimidation). I'm a supporter of Unions but, the anonymous votes were to protect the voters from intimidation from management and other groups. If that is passed people will know how you will vote. There was a strong reason to keep those votes anonymous.
"Fairness Doctrine" I'm not even going to explain this one. Look it up yourself.
Amongst a few other things like the senate not being equal Republican/Democrat. I don't like one party having the ability to speed bills through the process. I want as close to a 50/50 split in the Senate and Congress just for the fact that it means their hands are tied thus they can't fuck things up anymore than they already are.
The silver lining for me is: Now that Obama is the next president, if anyone says America isn't the place where anybody can achieve anything. I have the right to kick their ass and I won't even be charged with disorderly conduct.
Anyways, Obama won congrats but, if he screws things up anymore than they already are I'll be the first one in line to put my foot up his ass.
Badtz wrote...
We are just not protective of some plants because there is an abundance of them, but when the shortage starts affecting animals, all of a sudden we care, instead of caring about a part of the cycle, think of the entire situation, please, I'm begging, ignorance may be bliss, but it sure is damn pathetic.Wanna know something even more likely to make you have an aneurysm?
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/05/bill-of-rights-for-plants.php
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/065njdoe.asp?pg=1 (I do not endorse the opinions in this article. Just posting)
"Plant rights"
ZiggyOtaku wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
Dante1214 wrote...
The do that with moonshine sometimes.Are we talking "paint thinner" moonshine or "Gasoline" moonshine? I'm not sure Ziggy would drink that kind of stuff.
Actually 4 years ago when I was staying with a friend in Indiana, her father paid me $10 if I took a sip of this moonshine. After I did, he gave me the money and said that was the purest stuff I'd ever drink in my life, that it was pure enough to start a car. The stuff didn't taste that good.
I believe you told me that story before..I think. Either way a good moonshine can strip paint off or start the car.
Yeah, they are alri ... lemme rephrase. Yes, I like mudkipz :oops:
Wanna know who else likes mudkipz?
Wanna know who else likes mudkipz?
Spoiler:
Dante1214 wrote...
The do that with moonshine sometimes.Are we talking "paint thinner" moonshine or "Gasoline" moonshine? I'm not sure Ziggy would drink that kind of stuff.
@Mike: Maybe it was just a weak year. I mean all the economies are taking a hit so they probably decided to skip this Halloween to save money for important things.
The Jesus wrote...
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
So potatoes cut themselves
That's the reply what I was looking for. The Jesus saved the thread in my opinion. The rest of you...shame on you.
blind_assassin wrote...
I don't have to qualify an objective observation with suggestion as to how to fix the deficiency. I haven't actually provided anything concrete in terms of statistics (which I will do within the next 24 hours so I'm not dodging, just stalling temporarily out of necessity) but once I do as such my point in entirely proven. I don't care if you refuse to agree with me on the basis that I'm not trying to fix society since that was never anything I said I would be doing. I simply made the claim that America treats poor people poorly. Most places do, but America is just an exceptional case of it.Let me explain something. The reason I dogged you was because I want to know. I've never taken someones word on anything so when they claim something I want proof. I'm interested so I want the How and why behind it.
How are we treating the poor so badly?
Why are conditions like this? /Why is it happening
How can we fix the problem
Why should be fix the problem (self explanatory)
Not trying to be a dick. Just chock it up to natural curiosity.
