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@PersonDude: Don't waste your time and mine by attacking my examples, which I note do nothing to add to the core of discussion. Difference of opinion - so what? I note that with each counterargument you make, they dodge my own points.
As for uploaded material, if you believe that everyone here uploads material on the thought of purely gaining rep, you're wrong. How many uploaders here actually gain rep? Most of them do, but not all of them from what I've seen. I'd be lying if I didn't like gaining rep from my own uploads, but it stemmed from the belief that people here at FAKKU! don't appreciate bondage enough, so I decided to share my stuff. By then, my rep count was over 50 so I didn't really care. BUT, to gain rep in such a blatant and insincere manner is totally different from uploading material because the concept of uploading is a give and take, not answering some silly questions knowing that the result is a rep. To argue that uploading material does not constitute as worthy of rep, then what's the point of rep? Contributions to the community should be rewarded, not idiotic attempts at gaining it nor abrasive behavior.
The more you argue with me, the more you are losing credibility to me because you do nothing to discuss the core issue.
And if this discussion continues in this sort of pattern, I think FPOD and others (including myself) might be vindicated in completely getting rid of a broken system where users aren't bothering to reflect on their actions.
As for uploaded material, if you believe that everyone here uploads material on the thought of purely gaining rep, you're wrong. How many uploaders here actually gain rep? Most of them do, but not all of them from what I've seen. I'd be lying if I didn't like gaining rep from my own uploads, but it stemmed from the belief that people here at FAKKU! don't appreciate bondage enough, so I decided to share my stuff. By then, my rep count was over 50 so I didn't really care. BUT, to gain rep in such a blatant and insincere manner is totally different from uploading material because the concept of uploading is a give and take, not answering some silly questions knowing that the result is a rep. To argue that uploading material does not constitute as worthy of rep, then what's the point of rep? Contributions to the community should be rewarded, not idiotic attempts at gaining it nor abrasive behavior.
The more you argue with me, the more you are losing credibility to me because you do nothing to discuss the core issue.
And if this discussion continues in this sort of pattern, I think FPOD and others (including myself) might be vindicated in completely getting rid of a broken system where users aren't bothering to reflect on their actions.
Animeholic wrote...
Arguably one of the greatest hentais ever made is "Another Lady Innocent" which was done by this artist. Such a shame that it wasn't continued do to the company only doing VNs now.So so true. But there is another artist by name of Koh Kawarajima who's works are a tribute to Satoshi Urushihara's works in terms of art style. He predominantly does doujin work and has created his own manga series.
I agree with FPOD totally. In fact, I was discussing this with my father just an hour ago, and I really can't stomach Obama's acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize since I believe he has done nothing incredible to earn it.
Yorozuya wrote...
Bill is a mothafukken badass! That's why I always play him. ^_^Unlike all of them other weak survivors who scream like little girls all the time, Bill is the only one who rawr's.
Are you kidding me? Francis is the GARest guy there! He's so GAR that he doesn't have a death scream - he takes it like man. Though the fact that Bill has the ability to keep his cigarette in his mouth after death is pretty awesome as well.
PersonDude wrote...
Ramsus wrote...
PD who seems to take intense pleasure in working towards making the world a dumber place.See? Even Ramsus can make a funny every once in a while.
While Ramsus is a funny guy, he’s funny because his jokes are usually the truth. And if you thought that was a joke, you need reading comprehension lessons.
PersonDude wrote...
Then don't be jealous. If you aren't willing to "degrade" yourself, to work for the rep by giving others laughs, then don't even think to accuse them of rep whoring or gaining rep for retarded reasons. You think, in all honesty, that everything he does is sooo funny, that he deserves rep? Perhaps we all forgot the fact that 1) he was banned from FAKKU!, 2) for reasons for being hostile and immature, and 3) he was told off by Raze to stop with the racist jokes. But I digress - you've completely missed my points with this statement. Rep shouldn't be used for retarded reasons and because of that it has value, but making someone laugh is skill, and most people here can't pull it off.
The reason why lollollol12 had negative rep is because people can't take a joke, and the people who appreciate them are too lazy to rep the man. So his work is going unrewarded by the ones that do like his jokes, and his +rep me thread has turned into a reparations thread.
No. The reason why he has negative rep from what I've seen is that he deserves it. Being intrusive and uncontributing to threads, being hostile, and the jokes that he makes can range from either funny to silly to dumb to racist. If he gets more rep out of his thread, so be it. There's only so much I can do, especially with people like you who believe that going against the system is funny.
In my opinion, being funny is a worthy way of gaining rep, especially in Fakku where serious business happens.
Ever heard of the expression, "There's a time and place for everything?" Same thing applies here as anywhere else. There are good jokes and bad jokes, distasteful jokes and disdainful jokes. I don't mind the good or bad jokes, but lollollol12 has managed to pull off all four types, the last two deserving of de-reps.
Not done in earnest or sincerity? People want the rep which is their motive to win, and most do it in earnest whether they'd like to admit it or not. What's wrong with rep as a prize? In my opinion contests such as these stimulate Fakku user base to come back to have fun, and an extra incentive doesn't hurt anyone. I mean even the admins hold contests every once in a while (of course they use hentai as a prize, but the idea is the same).
Perhaps I should put it simply: getting rep for the sake of earning rep completely devalues the reputation system. You might think otherwise, but as far as I can tell, said contests aren't done or conducted in an sincere manner. I'm also saying that rep should not be used as a tool to encourage member activity - that also devalues the reputation system. Sure, an extra incentive doesn't hurt, but for the sole purpose of gaining rep isn't an appropriate use of rep to me, and I'm sure others agree with me as well.
@Hinagiku: the only difference to me is that I don't think lollollol12 has a case to begin with. I firmly believe that he deserved every one of those de-reps. And perhaps he was a victim of douchebags who have nothing to do but to abuse the system, but I honestly can't quite believe that given lollollol12's nature and forum-mongering ways.
@Tsurayu: I've never really argued with you in the past, but do not be taking my words and misconstruing them as a "whinefest". If I was 8 years younger and added another layer of immaturity, perhaps. But lollollol12 is just one example that I chose to satirize and comment of. There are plenty of other abuses of rep throughout FAKKU!, most of them appearing here in IB.
I'm making a general plea to community to get their heads strapped on right and set their hearts in the right place. I can only do so much to fix a system that deserves some saving since it still means something.
The power and concept behind reputation is that receiving a tangible/visible reward from another person raises the ego. I think we can all agree with this. However, especially when receiving such a reward for something that the receiving user thinks he or she should get a reward for doubles the psychological impact in form of satisfaction, or dubbed our "e-penis", at least for us guys. It is because of such a system that reputation has value, even if immaterial. Users are appreciated for their efforts at being themselves or doing what they can to contribute to the community. We may not think of it as such, but with no material attachments to rep, and making it so that only other users can give rep to another, the reputation system becomes that much more powerful psychologically. And back in the old days, rep was exactly that and had much more value than today's diluted version of rep. The feeling of "I earned the approval of other members," is good, to +/- degree of extent.
edit: Oh look, I just got de-repped on one of my posts that exemplifies a bad post worthy of a de-rep. You only strengthen my position my friend.
@Persondude: I don't have to copy somebody else's mannerisms or jokes to get rep, and I wouldn't want to either because I wouldn't be me. If I started making nonsensical jokes with every post I made, people would wonder, "Is that really g-money, or has someone hijacked his account?" And if lollollol12's jokes were so damn funny, why would he have negative rep in the first place? And are such repeated jokes made in a crude manner worthy of rep?
It's the very reason why I made this thread as an ironic counter to his nonsense thread. And of course, I'm probably not going to change the opinion of others who feel that lollolol12 is a productive member of FAKKU!, but the overall point of this thread is not about him but the reputation system as a whole.
Then tell me why it's an abuse of the rep system.
It debases rep as something that can be earned in a series of games or contests, and from what I've seen, said games/contests are pretty silly and aren't done in earnest or sincerity. And again, this is my opinion. You're free to disagree or agree with me, but my opinion isn't going to change. Now something like the Requests section is something I can appreciate as a proper use of the rep system.
It's the very reason why I made this thread as an ironic counter to his nonsense thread. And of course, I'm probably not going to change the opinion of others who feel that lollolol12 is a productive member of FAKKU!, but the overall point of this thread is not about him but the reputation system as a whole.
PersonDude wrote...
g-money wrote...
...I think the concept of such a thread is an abuse of the rep systemThen tell me why it's an abuse of the rep system.
It debases rep as something that can be earned in a series of games or contests, and from what I've seen, said games/contests are pretty silly and aren't done in earnest or sincerity. And again, this is my opinion. You're free to disagree or agree with me, but my opinion isn't going to change. Now something like the Requests section is something I can appreciate as a proper use of the rep system.
I wonder if we can say the same if anyone for that matter asks "Please +rep me?". I've seen users do so and got +/- repped in turn. However, has anyone see other users with negative rep ask to be +repped? Very few, and usually it doesn't succeed. And ask yourself, why were they -repped in the first place? Because of user's undecorous behavior. You get what you earn; the point is that rep used to mean something, and it's sad that it's devolving into something as generic as a post count.
@Persondude: I, on the other hand, don't believe that anything he does is worthy of rep, regardless of my previous scuffle/trolling with lollollol12. You tell me that reading posts full of CAPS is actually funny, because it isn't, and for more down-to-earth users, his jokes are not funny and can be downright offensive.
I admit I was never aware of such contests from before. I noted the fact that most users in said thread were posting such nonsensical shit and got repped for it - clearly an abuse. Sure, not all of the problems and answers were bull, but that's irrelevant as I think the concept of such a thread is an abuse of the rep system.
Oh sure, I'm jealous, no denying it. I think anybody would be too. Fuck, if I had the ability to gain over 15 rep overnight, I'd be god, which I'm not. BUT, clear and obvious abuse of the rep system is clear and obvious - there's no way around it.
I admit I was never aware of such contests from before. I noted the fact that most users in said thread were posting such nonsensical shit and got repped for it - clearly an abuse. Sure, not all of the problems and answers were bull, but that's irrelevant as I think the concept of such a thread is an abuse of the rep system.
Oh sure, I'm jealous, no denying it. I think anybody would be too. Fuck, if I had the ability to gain over 15 rep overnight, I'd be god, which I'm not. BUT, clear and obvious abuse of the rep system is clear and obvious - there's no way around it.