sv51macross Posts
Ethil wrote...
Yea well, for some reason it works out pretty well in the countries without legal weapons, we're not even near your murder rate. There is a much lower need to defend if there is less you have to defend against. It is also questionable if using a weapon meant for killing is suitable for defense.
Then again, your country is pretty doomed; you screwed up long ago by letting anyone get their hands on weapons, and whatever you do now the murder rate is always gonna go upwards, since it is to late for you to think of lowering the availability of weapons now, there is already to many around.
And if it were up to me, killing is a basic human right as well, I mean, it's a basic human instinct, and who is to take that away from us? It seems to me like you wanna have guns just for the sake of having them when you say that.
Wow...where to begin?
Let's start at the top, and use Europe for an example. Yes, the violence rate is very low in Europe. But what about Switzerland, where the government trains every male resident in marksmanship and issues a select-fire Sig-550 to every house? (and allows citizens to possess all the handguns and full-auto weapons they want to buy). Or the Czech republic, where citizens can acquire a concealed-carry permit with not much more difficulty than here in Michigan and has gun laws very much like those in America? Last I checked, neither of those two nations had any more violent crime than the rest of the EU. Norway as well has it's own 'gun culture', even if it's not as strong as America's, and it's still less violent than the UK by half. You cannot effectively correlate gun ownership with violent crime, violent crime is a function of economic and social factors, not what tool one has access to.
And it is not just other guns that people want guns to defend against. What about one person versus a group of thugs? As shown in the court cases in my OP, all instances were violence not committed with firearms. And you think guns are not suitable for defense because they kill. Pepper-spray/Mace and tasers are all things that someone can build a resistance to, and especially against multiple assailants, are not good solutions. A firearm is an equalizer, and it is a definite force. It is also a force that is universally respected, oftentimes, presentation is enough to avoid having to use it. FBI statistics indicate anywhere from 250,000 to 2-million violent encounters are avoided because of the presentation of deadly force in defense.
Next, you claim we're doomed because we let anyone get their hands on a gun. Ever heard of the Brady Bill, or the NICS? To buy a gun you need to pass a background check and not be mentally unstable. Yes, it is possible to illegally acquire a weapon, but I support certain measures to cut-down on weapons theft.
Next, you claim murder rates have been and will always be going up. where do you get your information, exactly? violence rates in America have been on the decline for decades, and still are. Meanwhile, gun ownership has been on the rise, there are over 80 million gun owners in America and increasing every day.
And as to the availability of weapons, it is easy to make a gun. Give me a machine shop and I can make a machine gun with 3 moving parts and a 1200rpm rate of fire [as can anyone with decent mechanical aptitude]. Then there are zip-guns and other easily-made weapons.
Finally...fuck.
You think killing is a fundamental human right? Is that the impression you have of gun owners in the US?
We do not own guns because we want to kill. We do not carry guns because we are looking for confrontation. Like I said in the OP, it is so we can prevent ourselves from becoming victims. Carrying a gun means that you have a last resort. Emphasis on last. concealed carry classes emphasize de-escalation tactics. We only deploy deadly force when we are in genuine fear of bodily harm.
Another point of gun possession if deterrent against tyranny. As one of my favorite posters says,
Spoiler:
But that's for another discussion.
Wrong. Here is the typical anti-gun argument below in quotes.
Ban handguns in the USA!
We don't need to possess handguns to be safe. People are being killed everyday because someone was allowed to own a handgun. It really shouldn't be that way. That is why I support a handgun ban, and am for stricter gun control laws. Only people in jobs that require handguns should have them (police, military, etc). It is their job to protect us, not ours.
And from http://hematite.com/dragon/policeprot.html ;
One of the basic themes of gun control is that only the police and military should have handguns or any type of firearm. I cannot explain their rationale, other than to say that gun control proponents must believe that the police exist to protect the citizenry from victimization. But in light of court decisions we find such is not the case. You have no right to expect the police to protect you from crime. Incredible as it may seem, the courts have ruled that the police are not obligated to even respond to your calls for help, even in life threatening situations!. To be fair to our men in blue, I think most officers really do want to save lives and stop dangerous situations before people get hurt. But the key point to remember is that they are under no legal obligation to do so.
Case Histories
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Now, not everything on the source site of these examples is fully backed-up, but you can't argue with legal precedence. I personally find it offensive that there are those that would have one allow oneself to be victimized and not defend oneself. The police cannot and will not protect you, and they [the pro-gun-control groups] would deny you the ability to defend yourself. [And while there are martial arts, the quote "Gun control: the right of a 110lb woman to fistfight with a 250lb assailant." comes to mind].
The most recent Michigan data/analysis I could find expeditiously was from 2005. 76 CPL's (Concealed Pistol License) were revoked due to criminal convictions, and not one CPL holder was convicted of murder. According to the information, close to two in every hundred (1/53) adults over the age of 21 in Michigan were licensed to carry a concealed weapon.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=134650
Ban handguns in the USA!
We don't need to possess handguns to be safe. People are being killed everyday because someone was allowed to own a handgun. It really shouldn't be that way. That is why I support a handgun ban, and am for stricter gun control laws. Only people in jobs that require handguns should have them (police, military, etc). It is their job to protect us, not ours.
And from http://hematite.com/dragon/policeprot.html ;
One of the basic themes of gun control is that only the police and military should have handguns or any type of firearm. I cannot explain their rationale, other than to say that gun control proponents must believe that the police exist to protect the citizenry from victimization. But in light of court decisions we find such is not the case. You have no right to expect the police to protect you from crime. Incredible as it may seem, the courts have ruled that the police are not obligated to even respond to your calls for help, even in life threatening situations!. To be fair to our men in blue, I think most officers really do want to save lives and stop dangerous situations before people get hurt. But the key point to remember is that they are under no legal obligation to do so.
Case Histories
Spoiler:
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Now, not everything on the source site of these examples is fully backed-up, but you can't argue with legal precedence. I personally find it offensive that there are those that would have one allow oneself to be victimized and not defend oneself. The police cannot and will not protect you, and they [the pro-gun-control groups] would deny you the ability to defend yourself. [And while there are martial arts, the quote "Gun control: the right of a 110lb woman to fistfight with a 250lb assailant." comes to mind].
The most recent Michigan data/analysis I could find expeditiously was from 2005. 76 CPL's (Concealed Pistol License) were revoked due to criminal convictions, and not one CPL holder was convicted of murder. According to the information, close to two in every hundred (1/53) adults over the age of 21 in Michigan were licensed to carry a concealed weapon.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=134650
Well, the courts are based on humans, and humanity is easily corruptible and misled. That said, I wouldn't want to live in any other country than America. IMO, we have the best judicial system, and despite it's flaws, it is serviceable.
From 0:45 to around 2:30, what's the song playing? I'll bet balls over beans it's on itunes so i just need an ID, thanks. Rep to successful acquisition.
AbunaiImouto wrote...
[size=13]Maybe I'm just a bit messed up, but I really enjoyed YAKIYAMA LINE's doujinshi, and I think that they are probably some of my overall favourites~ I was just wondering what other people thought of them, and if they've read anything similar that they'd like to recommend. ♂«
I think for a girl's usual tastes, I'm probably pretty weird. >w>;
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There were aspects of them that I liked, but over awhile those things faded and the bad parts kinda came to the forefront. So I can understand why someone would like them, it's just hard to pay attention to big breasts and bareback sex when the artist constantly, either through clothing, situation, or facial/body structure, reminds you the girls are fairly young. Not my thing ATC.
Besides, there's worse stuff to find arousing. Look at what Nashrakh finds arousing!
I'm sorry, but even if it's moe-yuri, slice-of-life still make me want to puke. I gave it a shot and somehow got both bored and nauseous very very quickly.
Oh fuck...I just realized. I thought that pic was somehow a screencap or fanart...you bastard.
Oh fuck...I just realized. I thought that pic was somehow a screencap or fanart...you bastard.
Gremlin wrote...
What can I say, I like the classic cars a hell of alot more that most of these modern pieces of shit that the motor companies try to pass of a cars. Never before have I seen so many four-wheeled disgraces![/font]
I know! The nineties were soooooooo gooooood for automotive design, and now every single Honda looks like Nissan looks like Toyota looks like ect, and they all look like shitboxes!
The only saving grace is Mazda. For some reason, they are the only major Japanese automaker left with a fucking clue in the design department.
Chlor wrote...
The song is "Turning of the Tides" by Futuristic World Music, I haven't been able to find a DL link though.EDIT: I found it here, but you'll have to DL the entire album.
EDIT2: I found the single track:
HQ .wav-verison.
.mp3 version
Don't mind the titles. It's the right song, they just used it as main-theme in Batman: AA
Thanks man!
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/video-updates/21528-two-year-anniversary-trailer-kickassia
Starting at 0:45, what's the name of the music playing, and in case it's not on iTunes, anybody know a safe DL link?
Thanks for the look, +rep to a successful acquisition.
Starting at 0:45, what's the name of the music playing, and in case it's not on iTunes, anybody know a safe DL link?
Thanks for the look, +rep to a successful acquisition.
Spoiler:
You know, an audio recorder in your pocket and a willing person at the local news station would have been much more satisfying and destructive I think. Why resort to physical violence when you can ruin the business's rep with hard evidence of the corruption/bunglefuck?
I'm not as bugged by the killing of the dogs, more by the no-knock warrant on a guy who was found to be possessing such a small amount of pot, while the guy's family was home, traumatizing his kids, discharging weapons around his kids, and then charge him with child endangerment.
I get the feeling there'll be a lawsuit for excessive force filed somewhere down the road.
I get the feeling there'll be a lawsuit for excessive force filed somewhere down the road.
Well, the art style is just as important as generous breast proportions to me. subject matter also, but not necessarily genre. Example, predominantly my hentai folder is filled with large-breasted women consensually engaging in heterosexual intercourse with well-hung males and a stark absence of contraceptives. Loli is enough of a turn-off to negate any other advantages the manga might have, save for...two, I think, exception. There are deviations on the consensual aspect as well, but again they're rare. Izurumi's fuckking awesome art of Asuka from Evangelion makes me adore the A-1/2/3/4/5/6/7 series even though it breaks the consensual and big-breast theme.
They're the cops, they can pretty much do whatever they want. Warren vs. District of Columbia, Danzigner Bridge, and the Chicago PD Organized B&E Ring lost the badge in general my respect awhile ago. They don't have the legal duty to protect us, they aren't liable when they fuck-up, and they can get away with theft and multiple murder.
What can I say. The tacticool fanboyism of MW2 got to me and I think the game is tits. I'll have to actually get around to fixing my 360 before this comes out.
Fiery_penguin_of_doom wrote...
The no fly list by itself has been challenged by the ACLU though I can't remember the outcome off the top of my head but, I suspect that they lost.Bruce Schneier wrote...
There’s something distinctly un-American about a secret government blacklist, with no right of appeal or judicial review. Even worse, there’s evidence that it’s being used as a political harassment tool: environmental activists, peace protesters, and anti-free-trade activists have all found themselves on the list.Beyond being "un-American", the list doesn’t actually help catch terrorists. Why? Because
Any watch list where it’s easy to put names on and difficult to take names off will quickly fill with false positives. These false positives eventually overwhelm any real information on the list, and soon the list does no more than flag innocents - which is what we see happening today, and why the list hasn’t resulted in any arrests.
Here is how effective the list really is in stopping terrorism.
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2008/05/sky_marshals_on.html
http://www.schneier.com/essay-052.html
Forgive me citing the same guy twice but, the man knows a lot on the subject. If further evidence is needed I, Gibs or Flaser will be glad to provide.
List of rights being violated by the No-fly No-buy legislation.
The second, the Fifth, and the sixth. I'm not sure about the fourth being broken as I am not seeing any search of seizure. I guess the privacy aspect is being broken which depends on how the go about gathering their data. The fourth amendment is in a murky area of the law as "being secure in your person and papers" is interpreted as a right to privacy while others interpret the amendment as requirement for law enforcement to get a warrant to search.
I'll correct. Brain fart I guess.

