sv51macross Posts
Tsurayu wrote...
I'm wondering why their petition goal is 1,000? Set it too high and people won't sign anyway, perhaps? Because 1,000 signatures isn't going to accomplish a single thing. I've been part of enough government petitions to know that.Not to mention online petitions having no weight whatsoever. The only way to effect change is to vote with your dollars and feet.
earlshaggwell wrote...
I think you got your amendments mixxed up. fourth is protection against illeagal search and seizure. second is right to bear arms. in a way, this kind of encompasses both though. to be put on a list and be scurtinized kind of seems like a violation of the fourth. aand the restriction of gun ownership would be the second ammendment.
That's what I meant. Even if you don't care about guns, S.1317 still violates the fourth amendment (and a quick wiki check, the sixth as well). It starts with guns, like I said, because it's a PC choice. But what next after we no longer have the means to enforce the other nine on the Bill of Rights?
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=521403
I know alot of people here don't like guns or think people shouldn't have them. that's your belief and you're entitled to it, enough said there.
But how many of my fellow Americans agree with the Terror Watch List (AKA, the 'No fly' list)? Being put on a secret list that's practically impossible to get off and at best is an inordinate hassle whenever you want to fly somewhere? The same list that has had children, decorated airline pilots, and US Senators on it? The same list that allowed the Times Square Bomber to get on an airplane? the same list that, according to this article: http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/08/19/tsa.watch.list/index.html?eref=rss_topstories can be circumvented by petty bribery or creative reporting of one's name? this same list that has over a million American Citizens on it? Really? We have over a million of our own national flesh and blood plotting to commit mass murder and wreak panic in the streets?
Really people. S.1317, proposed by Senator Lautenberg of NJ, would extend the 'No-Fly' list to also deny firearms transfers. First off, when was the last time we had a terrorist attack on American soil committed with firearms?
Secondly, this represents an incredibly broad-based and completely illegal attempt to curtail people's 2nd amendment rights. You are not notified of being put on the list (right to face one's accuser), and there is no clear method of petitioning to have yourself removed from the list. (right to due process). You aren't charged with any crime, you aren't even a suspect in an investigation. All that happens is that you piss off some TSA agent of a peon in the FBI misinterprets a blog post somewhere, and boom: "Sorry sir, but your NICS came back denied."
Bullshit. Bull-fucking-shit! This is such a flagrant waltz all over out 4th amendment rights. Even you non-gun owners, aren't secret lists that you can't see, aren't removal of your rights without due process, the way totalitarian governments grow? I really don't want to have to, but the more I look at it, the more I have in common with the Tea Party! Good fukkity god! I have shit in common with Sarah Fucking Palin!
Ughhh... Pissed off and worried do not make a good combo right before sleepy-time.
Please write your Senators. Urge them to oppose S.1317. Even if you hate guns, S.1317 is only a politically-correct first-step to something we really don't want to deal with.
And while your at it, ask them to oppose S.2820 as well. A gun registry didn't work in Canada, they're currently dismantling theirs. What makes you think it'll work here even more complex and overgrown?
I know alot of people here don't like guns or think people shouldn't have them. that's your belief and you're entitled to it, enough said there.
But how many of my fellow Americans agree with the Terror Watch List (AKA, the 'No fly' list)? Being put on a secret list that's practically impossible to get off and at best is an inordinate hassle whenever you want to fly somewhere? The same list that has had children, decorated airline pilots, and US Senators on it? The same list that allowed the Times Square Bomber to get on an airplane? the same list that, according to this article: http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/08/19/tsa.watch.list/index.html?eref=rss_topstories can be circumvented by petty bribery or creative reporting of one's name? this same list that has over a million American Citizens on it? Really? We have over a million of our own national flesh and blood plotting to commit mass murder and wreak panic in the streets?
Really people. S.1317, proposed by Senator Lautenberg of NJ, would extend the 'No-Fly' list to also deny firearms transfers. First off, when was the last time we had a terrorist attack on American soil committed with firearms?
Secondly, this represents an incredibly broad-based and completely illegal attempt to curtail people's 2nd amendment rights. You are not notified of being put on the list (right to face one's accuser), and there is no clear method of petitioning to have yourself removed from the list. (right to due process). You aren't charged with any crime, you aren't even a suspect in an investigation. All that happens is that you piss off some TSA agent of a peon in the FBI misinterprets a blog post somewhere, and boom: "Sorry sir, but your NICS came back denied."
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Bullshit. Bull-fucking-shit! This is such a flagrant waltz all over out 4th amendment rights. Even you non-gun owners, aren't secret lists that you can't see, aren't removal of your rights without due process, the way totalitarian governments grow? I really don't want to have to, but the more I look at it, the more I have in common with the Tea Party! Good fukkity god! I have shit in common with Sarah Fucking Palin!
Ughhh... Pissed off and worried do not make a good combo right before sleepy-time.
Please write your Senators. Urge them to oppose S.1317. Even if you hate guns, S.1317 is only a politically-correct first-step to something we really don't want to deal with.
And while your at it, ask them to oppose S.2820 as well. A gun registry didn't work in Canada, they're currently dismantling theirs. What makes you think it'll work here even more complex and overgrown?
_Raven_ wrote...
Took me a while to fish it out from the comments but this is the songFuck yeah! Fuck yeah! Fuck yeah! Fuck yeah! Fuck yeah! Fuck yeah! Fuck yeah! Fuck yeah!
@3:30, when the 'hell' portion of the ride begins, what song is playing? Because it's not credited in the credits of the vid.
SLAYER NEXUS wrote...
_Raven_ wrote...
Oh oh oh after i came back from london yrs ago i was disappoint. :( lol XD but recently i found out vegas also have these type of buses too...i really dont like being upstairs.Really? Why is that?
I'd be uncomfortable with it too simply because I'm very mechanically minded and I can literally see how high the center of gravity is. One wrong maneuver and tipsy goes the bus!
Aside from it being physically impossible due to fundamental human nature,
I think it would just make the whole world really boring.
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I think it would just make the whole world really boring.
The recent loli-crackdown has had me thinking about why loli is even illegal/prosecuted in the first place. Let's put aside shitwhore, er... Agnes Chan's seeming belief that fictional characters have rights too. The basic premise is that, even if there are no actual minors used in the making of loli material that it's existence increases demand for real CP.
BULL...FUCKING...SHIT!
Sorry, you can't have it both ways, general public of America!
Let's look at homosexuality to kick off my explanation. The majority of Americans believe that homosexuality is inherent, genetic. It is neither learned nor acquired through one's environment. Well, if you think that sexuality is inherent, then that must hold true for pedophilia, because no matter how disgusting it is, pedophilia is a sexual orientation. It is inherent, genetic. Pedophiles are born, not made. Maybe repressed to a point, but [genuine] pedos are not the result of one's environment.
Are we in agreement so far?
The argument that loli increases the demand for, or encourages real CP, is bullshit. Because saying that contradicts the earlier stated belief that one's sexuality is inherent and not learned. If you want to say that loli makes people into pedos or increases demand of real CP, then that acknowledges that sexuality is learned or externally influenced. thus, you agree with conservative shitheads that say a child brought-up in a gay household is more likely to be 'turned gay'. sorry, you cannot have your cake and eat it too. The demand for CP is there because pedos are there, and as long as there are pedos, they will want CP to look at.
How long is it going to be before someone finally sees the truth? I agree that if something curtails the rights of another, directly (or to the 1st/2nd degree) hurts someone, or you intentionally disseminate false information about someone, then it should be illegal, there are limits to our right to free speech, expression, ect.
But fundamentally loli does nothing to hurt anyone. Beyond what hurts others, what restrictions don't set us on the slippery slope? First loli...then small breasts, WS, anal...the slope is steep, and very hard to climb back-up once you start. After pornography, what political and religious speech will also be deemed obscene?
BULL...FUCKING...SHIT!
Sorry, you can't have it both ways, general public of America!
Let's look at homosexuality to kick off my explanation. The majority of Americans believe that homosexuality is inherent, genetic. It is neither learned nor acquired through one's environment. Well, if you think that sexuality is inherent, then that must hold true for pedophilia, because no matter how disgusting it is, pedophilia is a sexual orientation. It is inherent, genetic. Pedophiles are born, not made. Maybe repressed to a point, but [genuine] pedos are not the result of one's environment.
Are we in agreement so far?
The argument that loli increases the demand for, or encourages real CP, is bullshit. Because saying that contradicts the earlier stated belief that one's sexuality is inherent and not learned. If you want to say that loli makes people into pedos or increases demand of real CP, then that acknowledges that sexuality is learned or externally influenced. thus, you agree with conservative shitheads that say a child brought-up in a gay household is more likely to be 'turned gay'. sorry, you cannot have your cake and eat it too. The demand for CP is there because pedos are there, and as long as there are pedos, they will want CP to look at.
How long is it going to be before someone finally sees the truth? I agree that if something curtails the rights of another, directly (or to the 1st/2nd degree) hurts someone, or you intentionally disseminate false information about someone, then it should be illegal, there are limits to our right to free speech, expression, ect.
But fundamentally loli does nothing to hurt anyone. Beyond what hurts others, what restrictions don't set us on the slippery slope? First loli...then small breasts, WS, anal...the slope is steep, and very hard to climb back-up once you start. After pornography, what political and religious speech will also be deemed obscene?
Kitten1985 wrote...
I think its gone too far. I read in the papers over Christmas that a ROMAN CATHOLIC school sent out letters saying that they were not doing a Nativity play to be PC and that they were not to refer to Christmas as Christmas but as the "winter holidays" In the same paper there was an advertisement for an Eid festival. Now don't get me wrong I'm not religious and people can believe what ever the fuck they want but surly you see why this is wrong!
PS i live in the UK
http://www.capc.co.uk/
A site full of insane examples of political correctness
This. This fucking pissed me off sooooooooooo fucking much! When I was in HS, it was alos the gay faggoty 'winter holidays'. Now, we did have several Muslims and a few Jews, and it was Ann Arbor, but still...man, this is AMERICA! For the last 200 years it's been Christmas, and it still is! I'm hardcore atheist, and it's still Christmas! Come on, with commercialization, you people actually think that there's any real, honest religious meaning left?
And a fucking Roman Catholic school? The Catholics? The Evil, boy-raping empire of faggotry and criminally-negligent, moneybag assholes? They wanted to be PC? PC to who? Who the fuck would go to a fucking Catholic School, if...THEY...WEREN'T...FUCKING...CATHOLIC!?!?!? Why the fuck would anyone in the fucking-wide world give a fuck about how a Catholic school celebrates Christmas?
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GoodDay wrote...
Why are you always interested in guns, war, and... stuffPS. Never owned a gun. I would never buy one either.
It's an American thing. It's an individual-rights thing. Not necessarily war, but guns to keep the tyranny at bay.
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Harmonian wrote...
Its not double jeopardy if this went from federal to civil court.To give you an example: OJ Simpson was found innocent in federal court, but guilty in civil court. Thats why he had to pay that huge fine.
I know it's not double jeopardy, but it still seems like these kinds of cases just aren't fair.
Nashrakh wrote...
Oh, one of THOSE threads again.Ahem, people, please go back and look at the SECOND paragraph in my original post.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=520280
I was reading this thread on my fav gun forum. A guy tries to get photos of his wife cheating on him to use in future divorce proceedings. She tries to run him over with her car. He shoots in self defense, wounding her leg (how the hell does that work unless he was hip-firing?). Long story short, he's acquitted of criminal charges but is found civilly liable and has to now pay her $49,000 + legal.
Let's set aside the actual scenario and look at the legal ramification. I don't quite understand why our justice system is structured this way. You can be found innocent of any crime, not guilty, poof, free! And then you can be right back in court and found guilty of the same crime and be paying someone alot of money for a loooooong time. I know that the reasonable doubt requirement is alot lower in civil court than criminal, I just don't get why.
I was reading this thread on my fav gun forum. A guy tries to get photos of his wife cheating on him to use in future divorce proceedings. She tries to run him over with her car. He shoots in self defense, wounding her leg (how the hell does that work unless he was hip-firing?). Long story short, he's acquitted of criminal charges but is found civilly liable and has to now pay her $49,000 + legal.
Let's set aside the actual scenario and look at the legal ramification. I don't quite understand why our justice system is structured this way. You can be found innocent of any crime, not guilty, poof, free! And then you can be right back in court and found guilty of the same crime and be paying someone alot of money for a loooooong time. I know that the reasonable doubt requirement is alot lower in civil court than criminal, I just don't get why.
sausuke11 wrote...
Can I post this?Spoiler:
Haven't you already been asked to not use fucklinkbucks? There is ImageBam. It does the same service, and doesn't piss us off with a ton of popups and ads.
Figured about time for me to update. Found some really hot stuff on Gelbooru. Enjoy the sights to behold!
[implied]Milf, lactating breasts being suckled by two other girls, and heavy semen seepage.
Futa, and not a direct pic, but it's pretty clear that cum's going where it belongs (before it's torrenting out, at least)
Makin' pie in the kitchen. Cream-pie, that is.
She doesn't look too sure about that load she just took...sexy as hell though!
Getting evidence of the job well done! Damn, that pose makes me want to go for sloppy seconds right there!
[implied]Milf, lactating breasts being suckled by two other girls, and heavy semen seepage.
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Futa, and not a direct pic, but it's pretty clear that cum's going where it belongs (before it's torrenting out, at least)
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Makin' pie in the kitchen. Cream-pie, that is.
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She doesn't look too sure about that load she just took...sexy as hell though!
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Getting evidence of the job well done! Damn, that pose makes me want to go for sloppy seconds right there!
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