Possible Ban on 18+ Anime and Manga in Tokyo in 3D!!!!
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I just can't believe something as foolish as this is being considered, especially with how the world's economy is right now. Making a law with vague phrasing will make publishers be wary of bringing out anything anymore, and the manga industry will just continue to go down the tubes.
I don't see the problem with just simply placing a warning label/sticker on something with mature content, but banning it entirely is outrageous.
I don't see the problem with just simply placing a warning label/sticker on something with mature content, but banning it entirely is outrageous.
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really suck right?? most of the anime have school uniforms on it. and if they will ban it = anime industry down.. i really hope it dnt get approve... T____T
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Lol if you think this will in any way hurt Tokyo's economy you've got to be kidding yourself. You know whats really hurting its economy? Otaku's. More otaku's = less marriage = less children = less workforce = less tax money. Besides, Japan's economy has been on a recession for decades now.
Now im not liking the new law, but looking at its outlines, it's a very loose code of conduct. Give it a few months, i doubt the sanctions on anime & manga are bigger than you think.
Now im not liking the new law, but looking at its outlines, it's a very loose code of conduct. Give it a few months, i doubt the sanctions on anime & manga are bigger than you think.
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GameON wrote...
Lol if you think this will in any way hurt Tokyo's economy you've got to be kidding yourself. You know whats really hurting its economy? Otaku's. More otaku's = less marriage = less children = less workforce = less tax money. Besides, Japan's economy has been on a recession for decades now.Now im not liking the new law, but looking at its outlines, it's a very loose code of conduct. Give it a few months, i doubt the sanctions on anime & manga are bigger than you think.
Quite true in a sense, well it's not like every otaku is the same, some otaku are able to contribute to the world. It's more to those who are unable to do something in their life to obtain what they want by contributing to the world.
Without desire there will be no living, but excessive desire will also ruin one's life.
I really don't like this new law, even if it's loose i'm still against it. I don't know what will happen and still don't know if this ban is really effective or not.
Now, what will happen to the Anime, Manga and game industry. There will be a lot more unemployed people if this ban really happen. A revolution or a crumble of a great industry, we will never know.
The future is very vague, life without anime, manga and game is just to dull and stressful to me. Without schoolgirl and ecchiness is just to dull.
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So far it only passed through the CGP and still has to be approved by the Plenary Session on the 15th to be enacted into ordinance. Though, it’s as good as passed...
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i dont know what to say....
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/12/13/tokyo-anime-manga-ban-passes/
Tokyo’s ban on anime, manga and games featuring “virtual crimes” or which are “likely to interfere with the healthy development of youth” has passed after the DPJ agreed to support it.
The DPJ’s only addition to the critical portion of the law was a short rider which requests “prudent application of the law in light of any artistic, social, scientific or satirical merits the work might express” – it does not however add any legal obligation to consider these, or establish any clear or indepdently enforced criteria for judging whether a work can be declared “harmful” or not.
Even more bizarrely, the final draft actually removed a passage that imposed “a duty not to possess [photographic] child pornography” on Tokyo residents, whilst leaving the section banning erotic manga and anime (and explicitly excluding photographic materials) all but unchanged – that the bill is intended exclusively as an “anti-otaku” law seems to be beyond doubt.
It is very difficult to objectively assess the scope of the law – along with vague and subjective terms like “interfere with the healthy development of youth,” the law also includes “etc.” on the end of most of its examples, leaving it quite unclear, for example, whether the “improper glorification of illegal sexual activity, etc.” applies to only virtual sex crimes, or all crimes in general – presumably the interpretation adopted will be whichever is convenient to censors.
Similarly, the ban’s mention of “rape and other sexual acts which violate societal norms” seems inevitably to point to a ban on depictions of homosexuality, considering who was behind the law.
The generally expected form the law will take is that of a “amakudari” (a pervasive system of sinecures for retired bureaucrats) body which will inspect all anime, manga and games, with only those titles receiving approval as “healthy” able to be sold regularly in Tokyo shops – the rest will be relegated to the “adult corner.”
The most immediate and direct effect of the law will almost certainly be to see ecchi manga such as To Love-Ru, bishoujo titles such as Champion Red and most BL manga, as well as any seinen manga with especially mature themes, banned from general sales – presumably most will then be cancelled due to a lack of suitable magazine or tankobon distribution channels, with a few perhaps being resurrected as 18+ ero-manga.
As has already been seen, publishers will also likely be purging future anime, manga and games of any content liable to fall foul of the law, and removing older titles from distribution.
The law probably also spells the end of most late night anime in Tokyo (and by extension, everywhere else), which it would appear to ban under its distribution clause; given the vague wording of the current season alone it seems Ore no Imouto, Panty & Stocking, Yosuga, Sora no Otoshimono, Milky Holmes and others would all fall foul of its various stipulations.
There is also some doubt as to whether Comiket will be able to be held under the new regulations – if not, its cancellation or removal to another prefecture seems likely, although a lack of sufficiently large spaces may severely complicate this.
The law comes into effect in July of 2011, so with magazine, tankobon, anime and game release schedules being what they are, it seems likely its effects will be felt much sooner; in a genuinely democratic state there might be scope to overturn it before then, but from what has been seen so far it seems unlikely publishers have the guts or savvy to do anything about it.
The DPJ’s only addition to the critical portion of the law was a short rider which requests “prudent application of the law in light of any artistic, social, scientific or satirical merits the work might express” – it does not however add any legal obligation to consider these, or establish any clear or indepdently enforced criteria for judging whether a work can be declared “harmful” or not.
Even more bizarrely, the final draft actually removed a passage that imposed “a duty not to possess [photographic] child pornography” on Tokyo residents, whilst leaving the section banning erotic manga and anime (and explicitly excluding photographic materials) all but unchanged – that the bill is intended exclusively as an “anti-otaku” law seems to be beyond doubt.
It is very difficult to objectively assess the scope of the law – along with vague and subjective terms like “interfere with the healthy development of youth,” the law also includes “etc.” on the end of most of its examples, leaving it quite unclear, for example, whether the “improper glorification of illegal sexual activity, etc.” applies to only virtual sex crimes, or all crimes in general – presumably the interpretation adopted will be whichever is convenient to censors.
Similarly, the ban’s mention of “rape and other sexual acts which violate societal norms” seems inevitably to point to a ban on depictions of homosexuality, considering who was behind the law.
The generally expected form the law will take is that of a “amakudari” (a pervasive system of sinecures for retired bureaucrats) body which will inspect all anime, manga and games, with only those titles receiving approval as “healthy” able to be sold regularly in Tokyo shops – the rest will be relegated to the “adult corner.”
The most immediate and direct effect of the law will almost certainly be to see ecchi manga such as To Love-Ru, bishoujo titles such as Champion Red and most BL manga, as well as any seinen manga with especially mature themes, banned from general sales – presumably most will then be cancelled due to a lack of suitable magazine or tankobon distribution channels, with a few perhaps being resurrected as 18+ ero-manga.
As has already been seen, publishers will also likely be purging future anime, manga and games of any content liable to fall foul of the law, and removing older titles from distribution.
The law probably also spells the end of most late night anime in Tokyo (and by extension, everywhere else), which it would appear to ban under its distribution clause; given the vague wording of the current season alone it seems Ore no Imouto, Panty & Stocking, Yosuga, Sora no Otoshimono, Milky Holmes and others would all fall foul of its various stipulations.
There is also some doubt as to whether Comiket will be able to be held under the new regulations – if not, its cancellation or removal to another prefecture seems likely, although a lack of sufficiently large spaces may severely complicate this.
The law comes into effect in July of 2011, so with magazine, tankobon, anime and game release schedules being what they are, it seems likely its effects will be felt much sooner; in a genuinely democratic state there might be scope to overturn it before then, but from what has been seen so far it seems unlikely publishers have the guts or savvy to do anything about it.
http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/12/13/tokyo-anime-manga-ban-passes/
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*coughsankakucough*
We'll see what happens. Personally I think that the anime/manga industry would be something way to profitable to cut off just like that, most likely a compromise will be made, or this bigotry will stop. But still, it's japan we're talking about.
We'll see what happens. Personally I think that the anime/manga industry would be something way to profitable to cut off just like that, most likely a compromise will be made, or this bigotry will stop. But still, it's japan we're talking about.
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Who's that girl in the OP? I keep on seeing her in various censorship topics.
Anyway, if the bill passes, anime and manga will still be around. It will just be more sanitized. Much much more sanitized. Pokemon would probably be the most adult manga and anime that will be publicly available. Anime and manga won't die, but it will be boring as hell, too.
Anyway, if the bill passes, anime and manga will still be around. It will just be more sanitized. Much much more sanitized. Pokemon would probably be the most adult manga and anime that will be publicly available. Anime and manga won't die, but it will be boring as hell, too.
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This is the real question now that the law has been approved. It's very vague at the moment, so i suppose they'll take their time to make it rock solid before applying it on july 2011. Depending on their rules, it can really become a problem for the anime industry. If they think school uniforms are not healthy (which is stupid since every kids have to wear one at school), even "kids" animes would be branded as banned materials...
Ah and btw, do not forget laws can always be modified when proved wrong...
Ah and btw, do not forget laws can always be modified when proved wrong...
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The law seems too broad and open to interpretation meaning companies publishing material can argue against it.
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spectre257 wrote...
The law seems too broad and open to interpretation meaning companies publishing material can argue against it.Indeed, but at the same time, it can prevent some people to start new works, in fear to have them banned later.
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Also, the bill passed.
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http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2010/12/13/tokyo-anime-manga-ban-passes/
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soo meaning fakku site will be on danger?!?!?! nOOo!!!!
T__T really hope they will allowed ecchi anime/manga but with no sex scenes im ok with that as long as it has ecchi stuff...and hope they will change the uniform stuff...
T__T really hope they will allowed ecchi anime/manga but with no sex scenes im ok with that as long as it has ecchi stuff...and hope they will change the uniform stuff...
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I doubt that... its like saying, you can't have sex but you can have foreplay... If the ban is fully approved than there goes all ecchi anime series and mangas with it.
I can see the end.... 2012 is near, my heart & soul is daunted by fear T_T
I can see the end.... 2012 is near, my heart & soul is daunted by fear T_T
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CGrascal
Infamous
There is one solution if this goes through. Move studios and everything to Kyoto and even Osaka. But whatever the case may be, Japan continues to prove that they have no backbone.
However, there is also the possibility that they are pulling the same move that Australia is doing by passing legislation in regards to violence in games and offensive sexual content by clearing stating "NO! Don't sell it to minors!"
Plus, the actual vote is on Wednesday. So, there is a chance that it doesn't go through after all. This only passed the DPJ's cabinet.
However, there is also the possibility that they are pulling the same move that Australia is doing by passing legislation in regards to violence in games and offensive sexual content by clearing stating "NO! Don't sell it to minors!"
Plus, the actual vote is on Wednesday. So, there is a chance that it doesn't go through after all. This only passed the DPJ's cabinet.
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What I am really curious about this law is that why is it solely for virtual crimes and not reality crimes?? youths these days especially in Japan has powerful Internet access, hence is able to watch all the porn they want if they can....so why is this only targeting the manga and animes???
To me this law is just an unjustified act of superiority by the politicians to show that they have power over the people, which brings us to the reason why they are turning a blind eye towards the people that are rejecting the law
To me this law is just an unjustified act of superiority by the politicians to show that they have power over the people, which brings us to the reason why they are turning a blind eye towards the people that are rejecting the law