Possible Ban on 18+ Anime and Manga in Tokyo in 3D!!!!
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but the economy makes alot of momey from this?
i can understand trying to stop foreigners, but it is NOT a good idea.
I'm gonna go throw up
i can understand trying to stop foreigners, but it is NOT a good idea.
I'm gonna go throw up
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Guys, I bring unfortunate news. The DPJ has agreed to support the anti anime and manga bill. I'll link the full story here.
What do you think this means for the future, not just for Fakku! but all our beloved shows?
What do you think this means for the future, not just for Fakku! but all our beloved shows?
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It's funny how about a year ago this kind of article was being written: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/10/japan-manga-anime-recession
So if they need it so much to save their lives, are they really going to risk destroying it? If it's Japan, probably yes. Sad how a country who is the leader on most revolutionary technology doesn't have the backbone to protect one of their oldest and strongest industries.
So if they need it so much to save their lives, are they really going to risk destroying it? If it's Japan, probably yes. Sad how a country who is the leader on most revolutionary technology doesn't have the backbone to protect one of their oldest and strongest industries.
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Well from this point on it will be interesting to follow this matter and see how it evolves. Perhaps someone will keep on publishing their manga on the internet, under an alias, or something.
It's such a shame that despite hearing about Japans lively culture you always hear bad things about their political decisions :(
PS. What effect will this have on manga such as One Piece and Naruto and stuff...
It's such a shame that despite hearing about Japans lively culture you always hear bad things about their political decisions :(
PS. What effect will this have on manga such as One Piece and Naruto and stuff...
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sakabato24
World Warrior
Unfortunately, yes, this bill was passed. I am very sad to see this bill passed, and what that mean is that publishers not only for manga, but for anime and video games have to be wise in their decisions when making material.
In my opinion, this will reduce the quality of imagination that a lot of publishers in Japan right now, as well as narrow the spectrum of audience for manga, anime, and video games.
And what really ticks me off is that the the guy who wrote the bill, the Governor of Tokyo, is a writer of novels that depict rape/murder of schoolgirls. Hypocritical much? >_>
In my opinion, this will reduce the quality of imagination that a lot of publishers in Japan right now, as well as narrow the spectrum of audience for manga, anime, and video games.
And what really ticks me off is that the the guy who wrote the bill, the Governor of Tokyo, is a writer of novels that depict rape/murder of schoolgirls. Hypocritical much? >_>
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sakabato24
World Warrior
In my opinion, this bill will reduce the quality of imagination that a lot of publishers in Japan right now, as well as narrow the spectrum of audience for manga, anime, and video games.
And what really ticks me off is that the the guy who wrote the bill, the Governor of Tokyo, is a writer of novels that depict rape/murder of schoolgirls. Hypocritical much? >_>
And what really ticks me off is that the the guy who wrote the bill, the Governor of Tokyo, is a writer of novels that depict rape/murder of schoolgirls. Hypocritical much? >_>
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I fail to see what benefit comes from this. Not only will the amount of anime released decrease, as well as the quality, but the cost to makes episodes will only increase due to increased regulation. In the current global economic situation, this problem is exacerbated.
Also, what constitutes material that could effect the development of youth? This is a highly shady term. Also, surely porn is a lot worse than hentai? With hentai, there's the suspension of beliefs, and we all know it's fake. With porn, it's all real.
Besides, if they can't make a certain anime in Japan due to the law, surely they'll do the next best thing and make it in another country - namely America? That completely avoids the law, making it useless.
Disgraceful law; and I'm pretty sure there will be Human Rights challenges of this law; namely freedom of expression. But yes, the Governor of Tokyo is such a hypocritical bastard. He's probably doing it to narrow the market, so he can get more sales. There's the cynical bastard in me anyway.
Also, what constitutes material that could effect the development of youth? This is a highly shady term. Also, surely porn is a lot worse than hentai? With hentai, there's the suspension of beliefs, and we all know it's fake. With porn, it's all real.
Besides, if they can't make a certain anime in Japan due to the law, surely they'll do the next best thing and make it in another country - namely America? That completely avoids the law, making it useless.
Disgraceful law; and I'm pretty sure there will be Human Rights challenges of this law; namely freedom of expression. But yes, the Governor of Tokyo is such a hypocritical bastard. He's probably doing it to narrow the market, so he can get more sales. There's the cynical bastard in me anyway.
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this is pretty much political bullshit that is once again trying to stop creativity and freedom within Japan's entertainment industry. The same industry that they looked to for helping save their own economy back in 2009.
I believe that attempts by ANY government to limit ANY man of his ability for creativity and free speech through any median is unjust and could possibly be going against the Japanese people's Universal Human Rights.
Under Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights:
* Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
But hey, I'm just a random pissed-off idealist college student in America, what do I know. =,=
I believe that attempts by ANY government to limit ANY man of his ability for creativity and free speech through any median is unjust and could possibly be going against the Japanese people's Universal Human Rights.
Under Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights:
* Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
But hey, I'm just a random pissed-off idealist college student in America, what do I know. =,=
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I feel like this is a bill that just makes all those involved "feel good". Hurrah! We've protected the innocent eyes of our children from drawings! We can all go to bed happy and satisfied now! As long as the poll ratings go up, politicians don't care about anything else. But they are going to be a lot of repercussions to this kind of bill, and I have the feeling the effect might be a bit more than those politicians will be able to swallow.
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It always seems like Japan is so two-faced. It so many parts they are so ahead on the rest of the world, yet it feels like politically all they want to do is turn back time.
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Mod Note: All similar topics relating to the recent updates on the possible ban on anime and manga in Tokyo has been merged. Topic has also been renamed.
Sorry for the inconvenience caused.
Getting back on topic, it appears that things do not very bright at the moment. However, all is not lost. Many are still confused as to what the bill emcompasses. Furthermore, I believe voting on the bill will only take place on 15th December 2010?
Sorry for the inconvenience caused.
Getting back on topic, it appears that things do not very bright at the moment. However, all is not lost. Many are still confused as to what the bill emcompasses. Furthermore, I believe voting on the bill will only take place on 15th December 2010?
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Aside from the fact it's anime/manga, it's really the principle of the thing I find most upsetting.
Japan will allow such unlawful depictions in their porn, literature and other mediums, it's pure hypocrisy against the medium of animation and drawing.
Japan will allow such unlawful depictions in their porn, literature and other mediums, it's pure hypocrisy against the medium of animation and drawing.
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sakabato24 wrote...
In my opinion, this bill will reduce the quality of imagination that a lot of publishers in Japan right now, as well as narrow the spectrum of audience for manga, anime, and video games.And what really ticks me off is that the the guy who wrote the bill, the Governor of Tokyo, is a writer of novels that depict rape/murder of schoolgirls. Hypocritical much? >_>
I definitely agree with you there. Series like To-Love-ru and such will either become 18 plus, or they won't survive. Because of that, the industry will either collapse, or grow stronger because of it. I'm hoping for the latter.
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Word, I'm raging hard because of this bill. Probably going to interfere with a lot of the animes that I watch. Why is it that Japan is so socially and politically fucked (in our eyes anyways) but they are technologically ahead of us by many years.
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NOOO it's the end of the world!!! No more anime and manga!!!
Tokyo’s ban on anime, manga and games featuring “virtual crimes” or which are “likely to interfere with the healthy development of youth” has passed after the DPJ agreed to support it.
The DPJ’s only addition to the critical portion of the law was a short rider which requests “prudent application of the law in light of any artistic, social, scientific or satirical merits the work might express” – it does not however add any legal obligation to consider these, or establish any clear or indepdently enforced criteria for judging whether a work can be declared “harmful” or not.
Even more bizarrely, the final draft actually removed a passage that imposed “a duty not to possess [photographic] child pornography” on Tokyo residents, whilst leaving the section banning erotic manga and anime (and explicitly excluding photographic materials) all but unchanged – that the bill is intended exclusively as an “anti-otaku” law seems to be beyond doubt.
It is very difficult to objectively assess the scope of the law – along with vague and subjective terms like “interfere with the healthy development of youth,” the law also includes “etc.” on the end of most of its examples, leaving it quite unclear, for example, whether the “improper glorification of illegal sexual activity, etc.” applies to only virtual sex crimes, or all crimes in general – presumably the interpretation adopted will be whichever is convenient to censors.
Similarly, the ban’s mention of “rape and other sexual acts which violate societal norms” seems inevitably to point to a ban on depictions of homosexuality, considering who was behind the law.
The generally expected form the law will take is that of a “amakudari” (a pervasive system of sinecures for retired bureaucrats) body which will inspect all anime, manga and games, with only those titles receiving approval as “healthy” able to be sold regularly in Tokyo shops – the rest will be relegated to the “adult corner.”
The most immediate and direct effect of the law will almost certainly be to see ecchi manga such as To Love-Ru, bishoujo titles such as Champion Red and most BL manga, as well as any seinen manga with especially mature themes, banned from general sales – presumably most will then be cancelled due to a lack of suitable magazine or tankobon distribution channels, with a few perhaps being resurrected as 18+ ero-manga.
As has already been seen, publishers will also likely be purging future anime, manga and games of any content liable to fall foul of the law, and removing older titles from distribution.
The law probably also spells the end of most late night anime in Tokyo (and by extension, everywhere else), which it would appear to ban under its distribution clause; given the vague wording of the current season alone it seems Ore no Imouto, Panty & Stocking, Yosuga, Sora no Otoshimono, Milky Holmes and others would all fall foul of its various stipulations.
There is also some doubt as to whether Comiket will be able to be held under the new regulations – if not, its cancellation or removal to another prefecture seems likely, although a lack of sufficiently large spaces may severely complicate this.
The law comes into effect in July of 2011, so with magazine, tankobon, anime and game release schedules being what they are, it seems likely its effects will be felt much sooner; in a genuinely democratic state there might be scope to overturn it before then, but from what has been seen so far it seems unlikely publishers have the guts or savvy to do anything about it.
Tokyo’s ban on anime, manga and games featuring “virtual crimes” or which are “likely to interfere with the healthy development of youth” has passed after the DPJ agreed to support it.
The DPJ’s only addition to the critical portion of the law was a short rider which requests “prudent application of the law in light of any artistic, social, scientific or satirical merits the work might express” – it does not however add any legal obligation to consider these, or establish any clear or indepdently enforced criteria for judging whether a work can be declared “harmful” or not.
Even more bizarrely, the final draft actually removed a passage that imposed “a duty not to possess [photographic] child pornography” on Tokyo residents, whilst leaving the section banning erotic manga and anime (and explicitly excluding photographic materials) all but unchanged – that the bill is intended exclusively as an “anti-otaku” law seems to be beyond doubt.
It is very difficult to objectively assess the scope of the law – along with vague and subjective terms like “interfere with the healthy development of youth,” the law also includes “etc.” on the end of most of its examples, leaving it quite unclear, for example, whether the “improper glorification of illegal sexual activity, etc.” applies to only virtual sex crimes, or all crimes in general – presumably the interpretation adopted will be whichever is convenient to censors.
Similarly, the ban’s mention of “rape and other sexual acts which violate societal norms” seems inevitably to point to a ban on depictions of homosexuality, considering who was behind the law.
The generally expected form the law will take is that of a “amakudari” (a pervasive system of sinecures for retired bureaucrats) body which will inspect all anime, manga and games, with only those titles receiving approval as “healthy” able to be sold regularly in Tokyo shops – the rest will be relegated to the “adult corner.”
The most immediate and direct effect of the law will almost certainly be to see ecchi manga such as To Love-Ru, bishoujo titles such as Champion Red and most BL manga, as well as any seinen manga with especially mature themes, banned from general sales – presumably most will then be cancelled due to a lack of suitable magazine or tankobon distribution channels, with a few perhaps being resurrected as 18+ ero-manga.
As has already been seen, publishers will also likely be purging future anime, manga and games of any content liable to fall foul of the law, and removing older titles from distribution.
The law probably also spells the end of most late night anime in Tokyo (and by extension, everywhere else), which it would appear to ban under its distribution clause; given the vague wording of the current season alone it seems Ore no Imouto, Panty & Stocking, Yosuga, Sora no Otoshimono, Milky Holmes and others would all fall foul of its various stipulations.
There is also some doubt as to whether Comiket will be able to be held under the new regulations – if not, its cancellation or removal to another prefecture seems likely, although a lack of sufficiently large spaces may severely complicate this.
The law comes into effect in July of 2011, so with magazine, tankobon, anime and game release schedules being what they are, it seems likely its effects will be felt much sooner; in a genuinely democratic state there might be scope to overturn it before then, but from what has been seen so far it seems unlikely publishers have the guts or savvy to do anything about it.