[Locked] DONATE REP TO G-MONEY
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Rbz wrote...
PersonDude wrote...
Expect this to be my last reply. Your comprehension levels are that of a kindergartener and it's like arguing against a wall. I'm done.D:
If I had this argument on DVD, I would go back to the scene where Ramsus talks shit about PD and watch it again from there.
If you ever get that DVD, pass that shit my way.
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@hinagiku: rep still serves its purpose because there users who use rep correctly as a tool of appreciation, not something for kicks. That's why I feel it's worth saving, hence this thread.
Perhaps the -rep function should be taken away, as it'll force users to think more carefully on what deserves a rep, and only "deserve" rep. But as I mentioned before, even the +rep function is abused, e.g. people being nice or cutesy or ignorant of the system and rules. Both rep functions from what I've seen have been abused, and this is my call to the community to tell them to start using rep wisely, or else rep becomes meaningless in value and we would be better off getting rid of rep than keeping it.
To note, I feel that the +rep function has been used properly in a couple of ways:
1. Contributions: Uploads, requests, pictures
2. Users: intelligence, appropriate comedy, relatability
Anything beyond that to me spells abuse of the +rep function.
To note, I feel that the -rep function has been used properly in the following manner:
1. Relevance: off-topic, flippant/superficial posts
2. Behavior: offensive, racist, trolling types
Anything beyond that to me spells abuse of the -rep function.
Anyone is free to disagree or agree with me. I'm posting what I believe to be the ideal usage of both rep functions as it should be.
Perhaps the -rep function should be taken away, as it'll force users to think more carefully on what deserves a rep, and only "deserve" rep. But as I mentioned before, even the +rep function is abused, e.g. people being nice or cutesy or ignorant of the system and rules. Both rep functions from what I've seen have been abused, and this is my call to the community to tell them to start using rep wisely, or else rep becomes meaningless in value and we would be better off getting rid of rep than keeping it.
To note, I feel that the +rep function has been used properly in a couple of ways:
1. Contributions: Uploads, requests, pictures
2. Users: intelligence, appropriate comedy, relatability
Anything beyond that to me spells abuse of the +rep function.
To note, I feel that the -rep function has been used properly in the following manner:
1. Relevance: off-topic, flippant/superficial posts
2. Behavior: offensive, racist, trolling types
Anything beyond that to me spells abuse of the -rep function.
Anyone is free to disagree or agree with me. I'm posting what I believe to be the ideal usage of both rep functions as it should be.
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g-money wrote...
@hinagiku: rep still serves its purpose because there users who use rep correctly as a tool of appreciation, not something for kicks. That's why I feel it's worth saving, hence this thread. Perhaps the -rep function should be taken away, as it'll force users to think more carefully on what deserves a rep, and only "deserve" rep. But as I mentioned before, even the +rep function is abused, e.g. people being nice or cutesy or ignorant of the system and rules. Both rep functins from what I've seen have been abused, and this is my call to the community to tell them to start using rep wisely, or else rep becomes meaningless in value and we would be better off getting rid of rep than keeping it.
To note, I feel that the +rep function has been used properly in a couple of ways:
1. Contributions: Uploads, requests, pictures
2. Users: intelligence, appropriate comedy, relatability
Anything beyond that to me spells abuse of the +rep function.
To note, I feel that the -rep function has been used properly in the following manner:
1. Relevance: off-topic, flippant/superficial posts
2. Behavior: offensive, racist, trolling types
Anything beyond that to me spells abuse of the -rep function.
Anyone is free to disagree or agree with me. I'm posting what I believe to be the ideal usage of both rep functions as it should be.
This post is my exact feeling on the matter, but unfortunately we can't fix the rep system, we can only hope users fix how they use it.
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It wouldn't be a karma system if you didn't have negative reputation. Some people deserve to be -repped as people who deserve +repping.
Ugh, now I wish this was in Random because someone would have locked this trainwreck by now. Everyone who is going to, has already voiced their opinions, it's only useless bitching back and forth now.
Ugh, now I wish this was in Random because someone would have locked this trainwreck by now. Everyone who is going to, has already voiced their opinions, it's only useless bitching back and forth now.
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gmoney wrote...
To note, I feel that the +rep function has been used properly in a couple of ways:
1. Contributions: Uploads, requests, pictures
2. Users: intelligence, comedy, relatability
Anything beyond that to me spells abuse of the +rep function.
To note, I feel that the -rep function has been used properly in the following manner:
1. Relevance: off-topic, flippant/superficial posts
2. Behavior: offensive, racist, trolling types
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that merely your standards of repping? Because the admins have not clearly stated how to use reps it's very subjective and as helpless as we are we have no say in how other people are supposed to use their reps. Wait I think I have an evidence of that
Jacob wrote...
Tsurayu wrote...
Even if it is someone who does it daily, and consistantly, it is their right to do so. As long as they aren't cheating the system then they are free to use it however they see fit. Showing the users the Rep log will only cause huge controversy.Quoted for truth.
I got this post from https://www.fakku.net/viewtopic.php?t=27465&start=15
As you see here even Jacob thinks everyone has the right on how to use their reps. If so then there really is no clear rule about the rep system. And if the admins think so then what right do us users have to push our standards to other people?
Also please take note that I did not use Jacob as an example to appeal to authority or popularity. I merely used his post as an example to show how some of those with power feel about the system.
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@Tsurayu: If you count the scuffle between me and PD, then yes most users have already voiced their opinions. I, however, do not see this topic worthy of being locked as it was one user trying to pick a fight with me. Tsurayu, if you hate this topic and see it something so useless, stop coming here because all you are doing is same thing that you are accusing me of doing, and this being annoying with repeat opinions.
@hinagiku: Does it look like I'm trying to force my opinion on others? There's only so much a USER can do, and I am voicing my opinion on what I think is right. If you think it is right or wrong or lacking, by all means post away. So far, you keep attacking my position on what I'M saying. What do you have to say about the appropriateness of the usage of rep? I defined to me what is appropriate and took the time to spell it out for discussion. Do the same, and I'll entertain any further debate with you. Until then, your posts are like ballast that does not contribute to this topic, though your earlier ones do. This topic was made in response to another thread and as an advisory thread. Everyone here is free to ignore it or take note of it.
@hinagiku: Does it look like I'm trying to force my opinion on others? There's only so much a USER can do, and I am voicing my opinion on what I think is right. If you think it is right or wrong or lacking, by all means post away. So far, you keep attacking my position on what I'M saying. What do you have to say about the appropriateness of the usage of rep? I defined to me what is appropriate and took the time to spell it out for discussion. Do the same, and I'll entertain any further debate with you. Until then, your posts are like ballast that does not contribute to this topic, though your earlier ones do. This topic was made in response to another thread and as an advisory thread. Everyone here is free to ignore it or take note of it.
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gmoney wrote...
@hinagiku: Does it look like I'm trying to force my opinion on others? There's only so much a USER can do, and I am voicing my opinion on what I think is right. If you think it is right or wrong or lacking, by all means post away. So far, you keep attacking my position on what I'M saying. What do you have to say about the appropriateness of the usage of rep? I defined to me what is appropriate and took the time to spell it out for discussion. Do the same, and I'll entertain any further debate with you. Until then, your posts are like ballast that does not contribute to this topic, though your earlier ones do. This topic was made in response to another thread and as an advisory thread. Everyone here is free to ignore it or take note of it.
I'm most certain that it was not your intention to push your opinion on others but please consider this. Earlier you have noted that "people can get rep from ridiculous ways" which is pointed at Lol12. This is similar to saying "those who repped him abused their +rep" am I not right? While I agree that it is truly unsightly for such a post to gain reps I would not agree to how you said it. An evidence that users felt like you were pushing your opinion on them is PD over there. I can guess that he probably felt like you were telling him how to use and not to use his rep when in it is his right to decide. Here's an evidence of that:
PersonDude wrote...
ZerOBK wrote...
PersonDude wrote...
The fact that he was banned, hostile or immature, and told off by Raze doesn't really have anything to do with the fact that I think he's a funny guy. He's got the skill to be funny and if he gains rep because he's funny, then he got it legitimately.
On the flip side, if he loses rep for not being funny and being annoying instead, then that's legitimate too.
And I've got no problems with that. Just make sure you aren't telling me it's right or wrong on how I should rep a comedian, acceptable joke or not.
Now I am not attacking your opinion and let me tell you that your view is very valid. It's just that in expressing your opinion that way, you may have pushed your standards on others without noticing it which may be suffocating to the receiving end.
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@hinagiku: Perhaps, and I thank you for telling me something that I might have been unaware of. But if I was so pushy in my views, I'd be telling everyone do this and do that - I'm not, or at least I'm trying not too since I haven't used any command words. I'm spelling out what I think is right and wrong and hopefully people can come away with the notion of what is right and wrong in terms of rep usage, and pleading with the community to please, please use rep more wisely.
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ImperialX wrote...
g-money wrote...
@ZeroOBK: nononono, what happened to your Yami avatar? That was so cute.I second this. I love your old avatar.
I've been naive. I never realized how much Yami-chan was loved.
*ZeroOBK is moved*
I'll be sure to bring her back someday (I still have her on my computer), but since I've made a dozen plus animated avatars in the past couple days, I thought I should change it (Vanguard Princess <3).
PersonDude wrote...
And I've got no problems with that. Just make sure you aren't telling me it's right or wrong on how I should rep a comedian, acceptable joke or not.I don't think you need to worry with how long I've been here without doing that, but if I do, be sure to tell me (though I can't say for sure I'll listen depending on my mindset).
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g-money wrote...
Why are you here, Tsurayu, for the sake of arguing? There are people still discussing this topic, and until people reach a consensus or stop posting then I will consider the matter closed or moot, respectively. To tell others to leave this thread alone - how is that any different from what I'm trying to get users to achieve a better sense of using rep?edit: ninja'd by Tsurayu who decided to delete the previous comment that ^ is referring to.
@hinagiku: Perhaps, and I thank you for telling me something that I might have been unaware of. But if I was so pushy in my views, I'd be telling everyone do this and do that - I'm not, or at least I'm trying not too since I haven't used any command words. I'm spelling out what I think is right and wrong and hopefully people can come away with the notion of what is right and wrong in terms of rep usage, and pleading with the community to please, please use rep more wisely.
Because I'm tired of arguing about it. I'm advocating something, only to be doing it myself by voicing how tired I am of the fact that this topic is still going.
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Then stop posting here. Simple as that. You're only digging yourself a deeper grave. You've posted that this is nonsense. Okay. No one here is entertaining that. You try again. And again. And again even though other discussions are taking place. Please, do yourself a favor and back away gracefully, I won't hold it against you. We were on friendly terms before, and I'd like to keep that relationship intact as much as possible.
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g-money wrote...
@hinagiku: Perhaps, and I thank you for telling me something that I might have been unaware of. But if I was so pushy in my views, I'd be telling everyone do this and do that - I'm not, or at least I'm trying not too since I haven't used any command words. I'm spelling out what I think is right and wrong and hopefully people can come away with the notion of what is right and wrong in terms of rep usage, and pleading with the community to please, please use rep more wisely.
You're welcome. Worry not old one (you're an elder status user lol) tis human nature to feel intruded in when other people tries to show them their mistake. I am aware that all of those things you said are just your opinions and none of them should directly affect users. I respect you voicing out your thoughts and I appreciate that our talk ended rather pleasing (compared to my other debates with certain individuals). I am sure what you have shared and what others have showed would give users and those in power something to think about. I'm sleepy so I'll take my leave, goodnight and hopefully tomorrow this topic has either sunk in the bottom of IB or changed to a better atmosphere for the good of everyone.
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No problem. Either way, I hope this remains in the hearts of many. It can sink to bowels of IB as long as someone was affected positively in some way reading this.
And as I mentioned before, I'm making a general plea to community to get their heads strapped on right and set their hearts in the right place. I can only do so much to fix a system that deserves some saving since it still means something.
And as I mentioned before, I'm making a general plea to community to get their heads strapped on right and set their hearts in the right place. I can only do so much to fix a system that deserves some saving since it still means something.