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Kaimax
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TehMikuruSlave wrote...
Naoto Shirogane wrote...
So in my opinion they deserve every rep they get as tokens of appreciation.And in my opinion, a few rep should be enough. It's not like rep does anything but make people think they're better than others already.
That's your Biased opinion.
Remember that I said for uploaders, more +reps means more motivation?
now that's why we don't need the limitation.
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TehMikuruSlave wrote...
I've seen many instances where the person edits the readme file.That doesn't mean everyone is doing it, and if they do it doesn't mean they're doing it to fuck around, i usually edit the ReadMe file, to let people know that i was the one that uploaded it on to Megaupload along with the URL's to Fakku, so that people know where to go if they want more MU uploads but i never erase the original ReadMe.
TehMikuruSlave wrote...
And I never said it wasn't helpful, I said it wasn't worth of 30 rep per post.Thats not up for you to decide, if 30 people downloads a video or whatever and liked it why shouldn't they be able to thank the uploader?
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kaimax wrote...
TehMikuruSlave wrote...
Naoto Shirogane wrote...
So in my opinion they deserve every rep they get as tokens of appreciation.And in my opinion, a few rep should be enough. It's not like rep does anything but make people think they're better than others already.
That's your Biased opinion.
Remember that I said for uploaders, more +reps means more motivation?
now that's why we don't need the limitation.
Of course it's my opinion, and it's yours that uploaders need the rep for motivation. Funny that you say my opinion is biased; I'm not an uploader, and am taking an objective stand on the matter. You are the one presenting extremely biased opinons.
KLoWn wrote...
Thats not up for you to decide, if 30 people downloads a video or whatever and liked it why shouldn't they be able to thank the uploader?They could simply say thanks. It seems to me that you are taking offense to the fact that I said people get too much rep for uploading something, which I don't understand.
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TehMikuruSlave wrote...
Naoto Shirogane wrote...
umm... who thinks that they're inferior to people with huge rep? Isn't that their take? Shouldn't they be mature enough to not feel that way?That's not what I said, I infact said the complete opposite. Many people with higher rep feel they are better than those with lower rep.
B-but you said "It's not like rep does anything but make people think they're better than others already." Sorry but in this statement is more clear that you're saying "People feel inferior due to reps" than "Uploaders with high reps feel superior". And the rep system wasn't meant to be how you say it from the beginning. I pretty much think the users give meaning to it.
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Naoto Shirogane wrote...
TehMikuruSlave wrote...
Naoto Shirogane wrote...
umm... who thinks that they're inferior to people with huge rep? Isn't that their take? Shouldn't they be mature enough to not feel that way?That's not what I said, I infact said the complete opposite. Many people with higher rep feel they are better than those with lower rep.
B-but you said "It's not like rep does anything but make people think they're better than others already." Sorry but in this statement is more clear that you're saying "People feel inferior due to reps" than "Uploaders with high reps feel superior". And the rep system wasn't meant to be how you say it from the beginning. I pretty much think the users give meaning to it.
No, you're twisting my words. Take my statement at face value. I literally say "People with higher rep feel they are better than those with lower rep." I never once say how the people with lower rep feel.
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The current argument is useless and stupid.
I liked the hinagiku v. waar argument better. When is hinagiku going to respond to waar already my popcorn is getting stale.
I liked the hinagiku v. waar argument better. When is hinagiku going to respond to waar already my popcorn is getting stale.
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TehMikuruSlave wrote...
Naoto Shirogane wrote...
TehMikuruSlave wrote...
Naoto Shirogane wrote...
umm... who thinks that they're inferior to people with huge rep? Isn't that their take? Shouldn't they be mature enough to not feel that way?That's not what I said, I infact said the complete opposite. Many people with higher rep feel they are better than those with lower rep.
B-but you said "It's not like rep does anything but make people think they're better than others already." Sorry but in this statement is more clear that you're saying "People feel inferior due to reps" than "Uploaders with high reps feel superior". And the rep system wasn't meant to be how you say it from the beginning. I pretty much think the users give meaning to it.
No, you're twisting my words. Take my statement at face value. I literally say "People with higher rep feel they are better than those with lower rep." I never once say how the people with lower rep feel.
Umm... even if I take it as face value it only seems to me that only people who are bitter about other people's rep can feel like this. How would a person feel that someone is feeling superior when they don't feel inferior unless someone blatantly tells them "I am superior to you"? Cause if they didn't, they'd just keep quiet about it and go on with their lives, I am sure they'd feel better doing that.
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TehMikuruSlave wrote...
They could simply say thanks. It seems to me that you are taking offense to the fact that I said people get too much rep for uploading something, which I don't understand.No, im taking offense to you saying that uploaders should stop posting other people stuff etc, when all of this forum's uploads are infact "other people's" uploads.
Including the doujins the admins post and translate.
You seriously show your lack of knowledge when it comes to uploading.
Im not saying it's hard to do, but it's time & bandwith consuming as hell, but we still search and find games(vids/doujins) that people request without getting anything for it, spend sometimes weeks to get a game from a dying torrent, we check that it works and isn't infested with viruses and shit, which if it is it's our computers that gets fucked up.
Rep is being used on Fakku as it's being used one every other forum on the internet that has a reputation system, by people who wanna thank someone for a good post, their effort finding something, or for an upload that the uploader has spent his personal time and bandwith to get to the community.
There isn't any "Too much rep for uploading", if that's how people choose to spend their rep points then let them, why do you even care?
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Rbz wrote...
The current argument is useless and stupid.I liked the hinagiku v. waar argument better. When is hinagiku going to respond to waar already my popcorn is getting stale.
mine too dude, meanwhile TMS will have to entertain us all, so go ahead TMS and bitch some more.
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Rbz wrote...
The current argument is useless and stupid.I agree, this whole uploader rep issue is just stupid. A big fuss over nothing.
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@Naoto Shirogane; Because we as somewhat intelligent human beings have the ability to read context, and people who feel they are superior to everyone often give off a rather obvious vibe of superiority.
Which means we do not have to have an inferiority complex to note that someone is cocky as fuck.
Which means we do not have to have an inferiority complex to note that someone is cocky as fuck.
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KLoWn wrote...
No, im taking offense to you saying that uploaders should stop posting other people stuff etc, when all of this forum's uploads are infact "other people's" uploads.Including the doujins the admins post and translate.
I stopped reading your post here, because I never said you should stop. Good job reading, bro.
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Tranquility wrote...
@Naoto Shirogane; Because we as somewhat intelligent human beings have the ability to read context, and people who feel they are superior to everyone often give off a rather obvious vibe of superiority.Which means we do not have to have an inferiority complex to note that someone is cocky as fuck.
lol he said "We intelligent human beings" you're a funny guy. Good one. So what impression do you see in this post?
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TehMikuruSlave wrote...
I stopped reading your post here, because I never said you should stop. Good job reading, bro.Im sorry, i what i meant to say was "fuckin ridiculous".
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ShaggyJebus wrote...
If we want to get everybody on the same page, then we need to find out what everybody wants, in detail. Do people want less hostility but the ability to still poke fun at one another? That might work, but it could lead to misunderstandings. So, do people want a good place to talk and would be willing to eliminate any kind of negative talk to gain such? I know a lot of people wouldn't want that.To chip in to answer your question (ignoring the rest of this thread). What I personally want from Fakku is a place I can go to talk intelligently with my fellow Fakkuza. I want the community to have that "family" feeling like we're all brothers, sister, cousins,etc again. Family members can squabble and everything would still be cool like it used to. The problem is people aren't squabbling anymore over misunderstandings or whatever but, a certain group of users have a history of causing trouble. Just like the laws of the land. The laws of fakku should be impartial, unforgiving, uncaring. You break them, you lose, period. There is too much favoritism on the forums when it comes to the rules. I know other staff members have tried to correct this problem to no avail. So at this point, the only person who can do anything at this point is Jacob.
I also want the rules to be enforced for once. Someone flames a user or harasses a user then they should get punished. I don't give a fuck if they personally suck Jacob off every day. They are a user and are held to the same standards as every other user. The only exceptions are the mods who would be held to a slightly higher more "professional" standard. A perfect example for that "standard" is Gambler. I have never once had a reason to even entertain the thought of him doing anything unmod like.
Now, I'll leave this thread before I catch some sort of disease or something.
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Somewhat intelligent, does in no way mean that we are geniuses, I'm simply saying that we are intelligible people, we don't lack comprehension of basic things, we aren't mentally challenged.
Now, with that, we can obviously read context, do you know what context is? You're a functioning person, so that means you use context every day of your life.
When you see someone put their hand to their head, do you assume they have a headache?
I fail to see how I was being funny at all, it's not hard to infer what someone thinks by the way they act.
Now, with that, we can obviously read context, do you know what context is? You're a functioning person, so that means you use context every day of your life.
When you see someone put their hand to their head, do you assume they have a headache?
I fail to see how I was being funny at all, it's not hard to infer what someone thinks by the way they act.
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Naoto Shirogane wrote...
Umm... even if I take it as face value it only seems to me that only people who are bitter about other people's rep can feel like this. How would a person feel that someone is feeling superior when they don't feel inferior unless someone blatantly tells them "I am superior to you"? Cause if they didn't, they'd just keep quiet about it and go on with their lives, I am sure they'd feel better doing that.I can kind of understand what Naoto is saying. The statement "People with higher rep feel they are better than those with lower rep" is baseless and seems like it came from someone with lower rep who is upset with the people with high rep. It's like me (a white guy) saying, "All black people feel oppressed."
I personally have never seen anybody with a big rep count act like they are better than those with lower rep counts, just because of the difference in reputation. I've seen people act like jerks, but I've seen that from every kind of person on Fakku. Reputation never seems to play a factor (unless the person is way in the negatives).
Which brings up to another issue - if we want to fix the rep system so that it is no longer broken, what do we do about people asking for negative rep? It's happened a good couple of times, and it will probably happen again in the future. Is it even a real problem? I'd like to think so, since those points could be put to better use. I'd much rather see Jacob get +30 rep for making some site improvements than see some attention-whore or person who thinks he/she is funny get -30 rep for saying, "Plz -rep me." However, that does deal with issues of "freedom." People are free to spend their reps in as silly a way as they want, after all. But doesn't spending rep on a person simply for the sake of some joke further ruin the system?
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Spoiler:
Ignore this, he doesn't know what he speaks.
Continue with the arguments!
Don't let the other guy think he won!
DON'T BE LIKE THE FRENCH
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Tranquility wrote...
Somewhat intelligent, does in no way mean that we are geniuses, I'm simply saying that we are intelligible people, we don't lack comprehension of basic things, we aren't mentally challenged.Now, with that, we can obviously read context, do you know what context is? You're a functioning person, so that means you use context every day of your life.
When you see someone put their hand to their head, do you assume they have a headache?
I fail to see how I was being funny at all, it's not hard to infer what someone thinks by the way they act.
Lol another funny comment there! So now a person that holds his head has a headache? So I guess these people
