[Locked] Grow up.
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ImperialX wrote...
Kaien wrote...
wow 20 pages, hmm im too lazy to read up on this thread, are there still arguments going on?On an entirely different topic, yes.
Just stop it guys. It'll go on and on until like 30 pages until someone gets pissed and locks it.
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Waar wrote...
hinagiku wrote...
Waar wrote...
hinagiku wrote...
Interesting so currently it's more supported that reps are more subjective than in a so called "outline". So in short, someone does something good and receives the favor of some users and gets a rep for each satisfied person. And yet people are saying such rep givers are "cancers of the forum" like they're the forums (yet these are people who share the same luxury). Interesting, it's nice to see two view points.you sound a bit biased.
Again, as far as I can tell no one has supported the opposite view, everyone seems to agree to the same points; no one believes rep because you like/don't like someone is legitimate rep, uploads do deserve rep(some suggest a limit to rep on all posts)... You are talking in circles when everyone simply supports the same idea...lol.
you sound a bit paranoid
Again, as far as I can tell I didn't say that it's good to rep/derep someone based on your feelings about the person. If you would recall, my post that came before my previous post I did say that it was immature.
No support on the opposite view? That's because you only see what you want to see. You're talking in circles when you just disregard everyone else's ideas... lol
how was that paranoid? or perhaps you mean a different word.
p.s. there is no other points because everyone has just been giving the same ideas, everything you've said has supported my points, we're not even disagreeing here. Just drop it because I'm not even fighting you and you just sound dumb(not trying to insult you but i cant find a less rude way to say: you dont even understand your own point).
how was that paranoid? ask yourself that since you're the fakku dicktionary right? Since every word has a different meaning on your dicktionary.
p.s. there are other points it's just that someone's head is too cramped with his own self to notice (not trying to insult but that's the best way to describe his long nose). Apparently he's just stuck in a place filled with fog which came from his evaporated sweat that he perspired by tiring himself when he masturbated in the mirror.
I understand my own point and yours perfectly well but do you even see where you're heading? Apparently someone thinks he can define everything: How to use reps?; Who's a troll?; Who's fundamentally right or wrong? And say all of these have been outlined when in fact he himself is one of the MOST subjective people in this forum. Everything this guy says has face value that only he and his harem (not talking about his waifus) can accept.
Okay you really want to know the two points here? Since it doesn't seem to register. Your point: "There's a way how to use reps for short." Other's Point: "There isn't a way and it's subjective." Meaning, not you, not ShaggyJebus and definitely not me or anyone else can say "It isn't right to rep that guy." If there's anyone who has that sole right, that would be the admins. However even they do not scold people about it and yet there is this someone who thinks he is so high and mighty to actually reprimand and judge people about giving away their reps.
The point that you maybe thinking that both of us support is the "It's not right to rep or derep people based on your opinions about them." And that's true. However other than this the two view points clash.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
wall of text...
anyways the only thing I said was that repping and derepping based on your opinion of someone was a poor reason(which you and shaggy and seemingly everyone else agreed with), not sure where you got that other horse shit from. How does having an opinion about things make me wrong in any case? I merely provide my opinion and people tend to agree with me. P.S. Still waiting on that definition of paranoia of yours, not sure why I should have to define a word you used. You seem to have some real issues with me and to be brutally honest, I don't really even consider you a threat.
edit: when did I ever say anything like: "There's a way how to use reps for short." That doesn't even make sense, my only point was the reputation system was not meant to be abused as it is now... maybe you have my opinion confused with someone else.
anyways the only thing I said was that repping and derepping based on your opinion of someone was a poor reason(which you and shaggy and seemingly everyone else agreed with), not sure where you got that other horse shit from. How does having an opinion about things make me wrong in any case? I merely provide my opinion and people tend to agree with me. P.S. Still waiting on that definition of paranoia of yours, not sure why I should have to define a word you used. You seem to have some real issues with me and to be brutally honest, I don't really even consider you a threat.
edit: when did I ever say anything like: "There's a way how to use reps for short." That doesn't even make sense, my only point was the reputation system was not meant to be abused as it is now... maybe you have my opinion confused with someone else.
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Waar wrote...
wall of text...anyways the only thing I said was that repping and derepping based on your opinion of someone was a poor reason(which you and shaggy and seemingly everyone else agreed with), not sure where you got that other horse shit from. How does having an opinion about things make me wrong in any case? I merely provide my opinion and people tend to agree with me. P.S. Still waiting on that definition of paranoia of yours, not sure why I should have to define a word you used. You seem to have some real issues with me and to be brutally honest, I don't really even consider you a threat.
edit: when did I ever say anything like: "There's a way how to use reps for short." That doesn't even make sense, my only point was the reputation system was not meant to be abused as it is now... maybe you have my opinion confused with someone else.
Of course you do say it, you ALWAYS do. Strolling the IRC's saying "Someone doesn't deserve his rep" or "Someone should have less rep than other someones". Have real issues with you? Oh please, I have bigger fishes to fry than people on the net that might have this notion that he's 'Mr. Fakku'.
By saying uploads should have lesser reps and there's a so called "outline" to repping you already made it clear that in your standards and your standards alone you have this "way of repping" that you tend to impose on other people, thinking that everyone wants to see it your way.
Don't consider me a threat? A threat to what exactly? Do you have something to be threatened about? Cause apparently this is the internet, the only threat here are viruses and spywares other than that you'd be pretty lifeless to get threatened by anything here. Or did that humble pie from a while back by a certain new comer still taste bad?
Found that definition of paranoia in your dicktionary yet?
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This post got my attention very quickly. So, are things resolved, or should people like me who have no clue as to what's going on stay out of the picture?
Edit: I guess it's still going... :(
Edit: I guess it's still going... :(
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Sindalf wrote...
hinagiku wrote...
Waar wrote...
wall of text...anyways the only thing I said was that repping and derepping based on your opinion of someone was a poor reason(which you and shaggy and seemingly everyone else agreed with), not sure where you got that other horse shit from. How does having an opinion about things make me wrong in any case? I merely provide my opinion and people tend to agree with me. P.S. Still waiting on that definition of paranoia of yours, not sure why I should have to define a word you used. You seem to have some real issues with me and to be brutally honest, I don't really even consider you a threat.
edit: when did I ever say anything like: "There's a way how to use reps for short." That doesn't even make sense, my only point was the reputation system was not meant to be abused as it is now... maybe you have my opinion confused with someone else.
Of course you do say it, you ALWAYS do. Strolling the IRC's saying "Someone doesn't deserve his rep" or "Someone should have less rep than other someones". Have real issues with you? Oh please, I have bigger fishes to fry than people on the net that might have this notion that he's 'Mr. Fakku'.
By saying uploads should have lesser reps and there's a so called "outline" to repping you already made it clear that in your standards and your standards alone you have this "way of repping" that you tend to impose on other people, thinking that everyone wants to see it your way.
Don't consider me a threat? A threat to what exactly? Do you have something to be threatened about? Cause apparently this is the internet, the only threat here are viruses and spywares other than that you'd be pretty lifeless to get threatened by anything here. Or did that humble pie from a while back by a certain new comer still taste bad?
Found that definition of paranoia in your dicktionary yet?
You obviously have no idea what your talking about, but you would if you would of shown some effort earlier this week...
and i would take this more seriously if you weren't you. good work on deleting it by the way
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
hinagiku wrote...
Waar wrote...
wall of text...anyways the only thing I said was that repping and derepping based on your opinion of someone was a poor reason(which you and shaggy and seemingly everyone else agreed with), not sure where you got that other horse shit from. How does having an opinion about things make me wrong in any case? I merely provide my opinion and people tend to agree with me. P.S. Still waiting on that definition of paranoia of yours, not sure why I should have to define a word you used. You seem to have some real issues with me and to be brutally honest, I don't really even consider you a threat.
edit: when did I ever say anything like: "There's a way how to use reps for short." That doesn't even make sense, my only point was the reputation system was not meant to be abused as it is now... maybe you have my opinion confused with someone else.
Of course you do say it, you ALWAYS do. Strolling the IRC's saying "Someone doesn't deserve his rep" or "Someone should have less rep than other someones". Have real issues with you? Oh please, I have bigger fishes to fry than people on the net that might have this notion that he's 'Mr. Fakku'.
By saying uploads should have lesser reps and there's a so called "outline" to repping you already made it clear that in your standards and your standards alone you have this "way of repping" that you tend to impose on other people, thinking that everyone wants to see it your way.
Don't consider me a threat? A threat to what exactly? Do you have something to be threatened about? Cause apparently this is the internet, the only threat here are viruses and spywares other than that you'd be pretty lifeless to get threatened by anything here. Or did that humble pie from a while back by a certain new comer still taste bad?
Found that definition of paranoia in your dicktionary yet?
Never said any of those things in IRC, not sure what makes you think I have... Also don't think I'm Mr. Fakku, I would never go so far as to call myself the king of this place, that would be ridiculous. I do however believe I'm one of the more visible and vocal members of this community.
Again, I didn't mention upload users getting less rep nor did I bring up the idea of a 5 rep cap on posts, why are you making everyone's opinions out to be mine? The only opinion of the system that I would like others to adopt is the habit of repping for the quality of a post or thread, not based on a personal vandetta you might have against someone.
You once told me you were proud that you stood "toe to toe" with me, and again I must remind you that you are not quite up to par for that. Noting in your current argument has come anywhere near a valid and logical argument, we've really just been witness to your ability to use concealed personal attacks and conjecture.
Still don't know how I was being paranoid, but it's alright; if I had used a word improperly I would not respond to being called out on it either.
p.s. you didn't even respond to anything having to do with the topic or either of our points in your last post, have you run out of things to say?
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Wow, this thread really heated up again, I don't even understand what the two of you are arguing about, I thin you actually agree with each other (waar said so a couple of times from the looks of it). It does seem like Hinagiku is just attacking waar, even if the guy is a jerk sometimes I don't see how it's justified this time. Can't believe this is the second time I've sided with waar in the span of 48 hours, it's the apocalypse.
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TehMikuruSlave wrote...
Is it not true that many of KLoWn's posts are hostile in nature? Is it not also true that he gained his thousand and some change rep from uploading? I simply gave an example to support a claim, I do not believe that implies that I am envious of the guy.Actually, it doesn't matter if assholes get rep. I mean, even you've got rep. A legit way of gaining rep on Fakku is to upload shit. If that's how Klown got it, I see no problem with it regardless of him being an asshole. Anyone with a fucking brain can see jealousy seething out of your posts, dude, 'cause I really don't see a cause for concern other than envy. Besides, Klown's only an ass if the "victim" is a dumbass.
Another reason why I disagree with putting a rep cap for uploads is because you can gauge the uploads popularity with the amount of rep the poster received. Quick (although can be inaccurate) and easy way to see if it's worth the download.
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Sindalf
Used to do stuff
Most of the people in this thread dont know whats going on or understand the person they are talking to.
WELCOME TO WEDNESDAY PEOPLE, SHOW SOME FUCKING EFFORT NEXT TIME.
This wouldn't be happening if we did.
WELCOME TO WEDNESDAY PEOPLE, SHOW SOME FUCKING EFFORT NEXT TIME.
This wouldn't be happening if we did.
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Raikadashi wrote...
This post got my attention very quickly. So, are things resolved, or should people like me who have no clue as to what's going on stay out of the picture?Edit: I guess it's still going... :(
I think the moral of the story is this: hentai forums are srs bsns
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Of course you say those things you're Waar aren't you? But I guess people forget the things they said when they are suddenly in the spotlight. Yes apparently all you want to show is that you only care about how people rep and derrep with their own volition. Let's all believe that.
But here is what you stated before: "not sure how anyone can distort the reason for rep, it's been outlined by Jacob many times... People just choose to give it their own meaning ignoring the system or reasoning for it." Let's break this root of the problem piece by piece.
1. Not sure how anyone can distort the reason for rep.
-you are not sure but you know it's happening. You yourself are the victim and benefactor of such.
2. It's been outlined by Jacob many times
-clearly you're the only one who understands this. Your own understanding of the outline is for you alone. This is what I've been attacking. You make it sound so clear that you know what a rep is for and how to use it that you even say it's in an outline.
3. People just choose to give it their own meaning ignoring the system or reasoning for it.
-this reveals the subjective truth that surpasses your so called fundamental truth (the outline). But you make it sound like it's a bad thing when it shouldn't. Not all reps were given just because of volition but rather some by critical readers or a simple way of showing appreciation. You said once before in another thread "a simple thank you would suffice but giving a rep is too much" May I remind you that you're not one to judge what is too much, leave it to the admins.
Of course you want to be Mr. Fakku don't humble yourself now. You have boldly said before "Grrrr how dare you judge me by my misconducts when my contribution is so much more!" And you did it with so much emotion too.
Of course you say those things you're Waar aren't you? But I guess people forget the things they said when they are suddenly in the spotlight. Yes apparently all you want to show is that you only care about how people rep and derrep with their own volition. Let's all believe that.
But here is what you stated before: "not sure how anyone can distort the reason for rep, it's been outlined by Jacob many times... People just choose to give it their own meaning ignoring the system or reasoning for it." Let's break this root of the problem piece by piece.
1. Not sure how anyone can distort the reason for rep.
-you are not sure but you know it's happening. You yourself are the victim and benefactor of such.
2. It's been outlined by Jacob many times
-clearly you're the only one who understands this. Your own understanding of the outline is for you alone. This is what I've been attacking. You make it sound so clear that you know what a rep is for and how to use it that you even say it's in an outline.
3. People just choose to give it their own meaning ignoring the system or reasoning for it.
-this reveals the subjective truth that surpasses your so called fundamental truth (the outline). But you make it sound like it's a bad thing when it shouldn't. Not all reps were given just because of volition but rather some by critical readers or a simple way of showing appreciation. You said once before in another thread "a simple thank you would suffice but giving a rep is too much" May I remind you that you're not one to judge what is too much, leave it to the admins.
Of course you want to be Mr. Fakku don't humble yourself now. You have boldly said before "Grrrr how dare you judge me by my misconducts when my contribution is so much more!" And you did it with so much emotion too.
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Sindalf
Used to do stuff
hinagiku wrote...
2. It's been outlined by Jacob many times
-clearly you're the only one who understands this. Your own understanding of the outline is for you alone. This is what I've been attacking. You make it sound so clear that you know what a rep is for and how to use it that you even say it's in an outline.
I would like some more info on this about how it was outlined by Jacob. After all my interaction with jacob I dont remember him expressing an opinion. At least not openly.
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Sindalf wrote...
I would like some more info on this about how it was outlined by Jacob. After all my interaction with jacob I dont remember him expressing an opinion. At least not openly.Don't ask hinagiku ask Waar, cause that was sarcasm. Quote to prove it:
Waar wrote...
not sure how anyone can distort the reason for rep, it's been outlined by Jacob many times... People just choose to give it their own meaning ignoring the system or reasoning for it. Repping people or derepping people based on your opinion of them is a piss poor action that simply continues down the cycle of destruction for this system. Once again I guess the fact that sooooo many of our users are under the age of 18 and as immature as 8 year old's cant be helped. This post is in no way targeting anyone unless you're under the age of 18 or rep/derep for the reasons stated above.
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Sindalf
Used to do stuff
PersonDude wrote...
Sindalf wrote...
I would like some more info on this about how it was outlined by Jacob. After all my interaction with jacob I dont remember him expressing an opinion. At least not openly.Don't ask hinagiku ask Waar, cause that was sarcasm. Quote to prove it:
Waar wrote...
not sure how anyone can distort the reason for rep, it's been outlined by Jacob many times... People just choose to give it their own meaning ignoring the system or reasoning for it. Repping people or derepping people based on your opinion of them is a piss poor action that simply continues down the cycle of destruction for this system. Once again I guess the fact that sooooo many of our users are under the age of 18 and as immature as 8 year old's cant be helped. This post is in no way targeting anyone unless you're under the age of 18 or rep/derep for the reasons stated above.Ah then I know where he got that from then. Cant remember every detail of a wall of text. Carry on~
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
hinagiku wrote...
wall of text...Of course you say those things you're Waar aren't you? But I guess people forget the things they said when they are suddenly in the spotlight. Yes apparently all you want to show is that you only care about how people rep and derrep with their own volition. Let's all believe that.
Alright, if the issues was that you simply misunderstood my post and wanted me to explain it point by point i will assist you, but for God's sake, ask next time, instead of starting 2 pages of bullshit just so I break it down for you seems excessive. I don't know why you would not trust my word on this, I'm being very straight forward with you.
hinagiku wrote...
1. Not sure how anyone can distort the reason for rep.-you are not sure but you know it's happening. You yourself are the victim and benefactor of such.
I believe we all are, the community as a whole is hurt by a broken system in my opinion. Many have already agreed including staff members.
hinagiku wrote...
2. It's been outlined by Jacob many times-clearly you're the only one who understands this. Your own understanding of the outline is for you alone. This is what I've been attacking. You make it sound so clear that you know what a rep is for and how to use it that you even say it's in an outline.
Jacob has posted what the reputation system is and what it's used for, I don't know how I can be any more direct and upfront about this. No where does it say "rep is used to punish someone you don't like". I really don't think it was that hard to understand.
hinagiku wrote...
3. People just choose to give it their own meaning ignoring the system or reasoning for it.-this reveals the subjective truth that surpasses your so called fundamental truth (the outline). But you make it sound like it's a bad thing when it shouldn't. Not all reps were given just because of volition but rather some by critical readers or a simple way of showing appreciation. You said once before in another thread "a simple thank you would suffice but giving a rep is too much" May I remind you that you're not one to judge what is too much, leave it to the admins.
So I can't give my opinion on the matter simply because I'm not an admin; why do you take my opinion soo seriously as to attack me on it every chance you get; if I believe the system is flawed and if I believe people should avoid derepping people based on their opinion of said person what does it matter to you? Just because I follow my opinion as code doesn't mean others have to. You have a truly distorted view of me; I am not the evil man who forces others to follow his will; I am simply another man in this community who enjoys spreading his opinion. The fakku forums is a place for debate (not only debate, don't start another ragefest) where people discuss ideas, including ideas on how to better our community, why should I not be aloud to express my opinions or try to convince others?
hinagiku wrote...
Of course you want to be Mr. Fakku don't humble yourself now. You have boldly said before "Grrrr how dare you judge me by my misconducts when my contribution is so much more!" And you did it with so much emotion too.I don't see the correlation between being "Mr Fakku" and me wanting to be judged not by the color of my reputation but by the content of my character... This point lacks logic.
You honestly believe this ranting against me doesn't make you look foolish hina? Why do insist on condemning my posts as some sort of hidden message/agenda, can't you simply take what I say at face value instead trying to find a deeper meaning? Sometimes a word is just a word my friend.