Burning the Qur'an

Well, I guess that's how strongly you take the message; what first struck my mind were the way Nazis burned Torahs, now I do realize that this is not even comparable, but I hope you see what I mean.
Although that is not the main reason to why I think this is a purely idiotic idea, not only is it disrespectful and I would almost go as far as to call it racist, or w/e word there is when dealing with faiths, but think about the reaction.
Think about the reaction the danish drawings and the artwork of Lars Vilks did, these were drawings, humorous satires of their prophet, this lead to the death of about 30 people. Now think what the reaction on this will be.

No matter what, extremist will always find an excuse to tell their followers to kill people.

What lead to those deaths was the misguided beliefs of extremists who are willing to kill for those beliefs.

It's like trying to say that school shootings are the result of the kids playing video games.

Um no, those kids are just really fucked up in the head.

It's always religion, religion and religion....

Giving them a (In my opinion not justified, but more than understandable) reason to act doesn't help.

Then you are a bad person for supporting porn which a rapist can use to justify himself raping a girl.

You're helping a guy rape a girl with this justification!

The majority of religious peoples are peaceful and are trying to find a higher calling then the scientific and measurable world around us. The problem is delusional violent people who gain power using the words "religion" and "holiness" to masquerade as good Muslims or Christians. They prey on the uneducated - usually those who don't even know how to read a qur'an or bible.



Agreed. But even so, you can't tell people to shuddap because someone is going to get mad at what they say. That is limiting freedom.

Those who give up a bit freedom for a bit of security deserve neither - and will lose both.

What part of "not justified" didn't you understand?



It is not, or do you think that the extremists that were willing and able to kill over a few drawings will sit back and just let something like this slide?

Except those extremist willing to kill over that are just wanting to kill people. They will find ANY excuse they can to do so.

It doesn't matter WHAT you do, they will still do it.

But it's cool. You can always just show fear and give in to them and let them get away with it. I'm sure that will be a very effective solution in having them stop.

Oh, I didn't realize that provocation was the way to make people stop doing something. Please enlighten me on how that works?

We had a war with these moron and believe me they outnumbered us, the latest case is the dead of a salafy shaikh on yaman. oh me I'm Salafy, wahaby in fact. these moron spread a ill rumour about us. because for them religion is a company that they can earn money. I said about sufi, shi'ite, al qaeda. some issues like qur'an burning is like a new gold mine for them. especially Sufi, i really hate these pussies. and if there an islamic faction that match of your describe, I definetly sure these faction.

Cause it's actually showing something other than giving in to their demands? It actually means doing something other than just sitting on your hands hoping you don't get stabbed for making the wrong hand sign?

No, not all of these things are the right way of going about it. But in this situation, doing nothing is worse. Why don't you ask the Germans how appeasement worked with them.

A show of strength is sometimes the only thing you can do. Demonstrating that "Hey, we're not backing down."

Obviously it isn't, but it shouldn't be the government's responsibility to keep one group of people from hurting another groups feelings. The government should only step in once violent action is insinuated.

Again, read Ben Franklin: "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."

The violence is already insinuated by provoking the extremists to take a violent action, and I think that's exactly what's going to happen.



Ben Franklin was an idiot for saying that, I would give up my right to be a douchebag just for the hell of it if that meant preventing a violent response.

Ben Franklin was scoring dozens of French women into his later years.

You should just be grateful to be able to say his name because of his awesomeness.

GUYS GUYS

again I say. we salafy as the real moslem doesn't give a damn about these issue. you can always burn a thousand copies of qur'an everyday. you can draw our Holy Prophet in anyway you like. but one thing is sure we wouldn't provoked. so it's enough, your view about these issues is a waste. we don't give a damn about these issues so why would you? you are not someone that involved in this issues.

and about the safety of american people? c'mon guys since when you had become pussy



yeah fuck, that's my girl/boy, that was the American that I put my respect on not some sissies that crawl under bed when something hit them.

again still my Opinion is THIS

Follow that logic, if I told you to shut the hell up and accept my point of view or I'll kill you that means you'd shut the hell up (and create a paradox in the process).

Obviously, you aren't going to though and you shouldn't either. Being quite from a fear of threats and/or violence is cowardly and you open the door to further being pushed around.

Besides, the government can't throw people in jail for being douchebags because for all you know you might be considered a douchebag by someone.

But were those 30 deaths the fault of Lars Vilks? Was he the problem? I maintain that the problem is the extremists who show themselves to be the barbarians that they are, all because someone drew a picture.

In this quran burning scenario, I see the burners as a lesser evil. These people who say, "You must respect my religion, or else", should not be catered to. Draw muhammad day was similar in that it was a giant middle finger to those who would impose their will on us.

Either way, quran burning as a way of honoring the victims of 9/11 is moronic.

easy girl some people are just like that.

No, follow that logic and I wouldn't flip you the finger for no reason if I thought you'd punch back. Not only are my decision to flip you the finger stupid and uncalled for, but it's also provocative.

Very much like this entire situation.



Agreed, the problem wasn't Lars Vilks but instead the extremists, but there is no denying that it was Lars Vilks who triggered it all right?



Indeed the burners are not the ones killing anyone, but provoking someone like this, knowing that they'll respond in a violent way is just stupid.



I couldn't agree more.