Do you believe in "GOD" ,and the "Great" beyond ?
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bowserman wrote...
I have a question, if you say that you´re so religious and believe in god, why are you posting on fakku, or seeing hentai?, all what is here is against any actual religion. You´re going to Hell, and Devil will torture you for eternity!!I know, IS BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT SURE ABOUT YOUR RELIGION (obviously, if you like this page).
[For the religious people around here]
Im Religious (a Fanatic in fact) I was the one that always wage a war against plurality, liberalism, democracy in my region. I did believe in god. so what?
By the way i don't scare Devil. and the one that will torture us on Hell is an Angel. Angel that what you see as a fiction on neon genesis evangelion. is actualy a fact in my religion.
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Xil
Norse God of Sawdust
I fall into the elite group of 'very much atheist'
For the most part, I can easily ignore most cults(as every religious is one) and their pathetic, unintelligent teachings on divine salvation and what have you. To everyone their own- I've no problem with personal beliefs.
HOWEVER, should those 'personal' beliefs start to effect me, than I most certainly have a problem with them.
If an atheist went door-to-door, spreading the word of evaluation: how many people would be terribly insulted, or worse? Yet, how is it any different than the dude filled with the 'Holy Spirit' that wants to tell you ALL about Jesus as he masturbates to the bible? At the very least people offer him a glass of water...
It's just fucking hypocritical... But, slight off topic- my apologies.
For the most part, I can easily ignore most cults(as every religious is one) and their pathetic, unintelligent teachings on divine salvation and what have you. To everyone their own- I've no problem with personal beliefs.
HOWEVER, should those 'personal' beliefs start to effect me, than I most certainly have a problem with them.
If an atheist went door-to-door, spreading the word of evaluation: how many people would be terribly insulted, or worse? Yet, how is it any different than the dude filled with the 'Holy Spirit' that wants to tell you ALL about Jesus as he masturbates to the bible? At the very least people offer him a glass of water...
It's just fucking hypocritical... But, slight off topic- my apologies.
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Xil wrote...
I fall into the elite group of 'very much atheist'For the most part, I can easily ignore most cults(as every religious is one) and their pathetic, unintelligent teachings on divine salvation and what have you. To everyone their own- I've no problem with personal beliefs.
HOWEVER, should those 'personal' beliefs start to effect me, than I most certainly have a problem with them.
If an atheist went door-to-door, spreading the word of evaluation: how many people would be terribly insulted, or worse? Yet, how is it any different than the dude filled with the 'Holy Spirit' that wants to tell you ALL about Jesus as he masturbates to the bible? At the very least people offer him a glass of water...
It's just fucking hypocritical... But, slight off topic- my apologies.
In my country these guys wouldn't ever reach next door. here the moment you start evaluation one faith. you'll find yourself surrounded with angry mobs.
even between a faction of moslem. there still always a moron enough to kill you. unfortunately these moron is majority on my country.
believe me we have tried to evaluate these people about the right way of moslem. that, what they do is practically infidelity towards moslem itself. their faith towards their refferend, fucking holy man, or I can simply says Fucking HABIB is blind them. so i can say even Faith can lead you to become MORON!
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It would be nice if they were true. But basing all my beliefs on what some old man wrote centuries ago that might or might not be accurate is a bit of a stretch.
I could sit here and type out the meaning of religion and what not but that's just the same old thing right?
Its really up to the individual to come up with their own ideas and beliefs.
I could sit here and type out the meaning of religion and what not but that's just the same old thing right?
Its really up to the individual to come up with their own ideas and beliefs.
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Iamnotchrishansen
Jiggy Blackson
No and I was (a somewhat serious) Christian for five years. I read the Bible everyday , a few chapters at a time, for a year and a half once and I seen vids on Youtube that made me question the deacons at my church. I asked them these questions from the Atheist videos and they told me a fishy answer, then told me to stay away from "those sites". Another thing is that made me wonder is my sexuality. The Bible tells us if you look at a woman lustfully you have sinned. Normally when men masturbate they have a fantasy so this falls under said category. This made me wonder, "why did God give us the choice to be 'perverts'?" Again I asked this question the Deacons copped out. Saying things like "you shouldn't question God." This one is probably the killer blow though; If God really loves the world why does he give us the option of going to Hell (aka free will)? If we're really God's children would he put us in danger? Sorry if I rambled on.
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PAnZuRiEL
Soba-Scans Staff
RELIGION is a human structure of mass-control. Not believing in religion (which I guess is just me nitpicking over the exact way a lot of people tend to phrase their atheism) is idiotic, it's a real thing that exists in society and exerts an influence on people. Not believing in the precepts of a dominant religion can get you in a lot of trouble with religious authorities, but thought-crime is a personal choice.
SPIRITUALITY has no structure and spiritual teachers/gurus/whatever are widely viewed as crackpots and charlatans and their followings as deranged cults. But the ones that don't fall into the tyrannical profiteering of organised religion are really not so bad. They believe some things, okay. Can they prove any of them? Some claim to be able to. Have they proved any of them to me? Not yet. That doesn't mean I need to declare a holy war on them.
Absolute proof is not essential. In fact, in a lot of ways absolute proof of anything is impossible because there's no objective way of ratifying the accuracy and reliability of our senses. That is of course what faith is all about and what fuels religion and spirituality and superstition the world over. People want to believe nice things, convenient things. It's easy.
Even people who believe in science tend strongly to take it all on faith, to simply believe what the learned people tell them without attempting to challenge it. One group of learned people claims another group has provided adequate proof and then the lay masses take that as writ. There's nothing wrong with that, it would be plainly absurd to think that any single person could independently verify for themselves all human knowledge in all domains. Even among those learned few who prove things absolutely, they prove to themselves only those things within their domain and then simply take the word of other people on all other matters.
Human beings cannot know anything other than that they (and they alone) are conscious and thinking and must exist in some sense. All else is taken on some level of faith.
Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
So do I believe in "God"? Define the term. Do I believe in the "great beyond"? Define the term. Do I believe something pleasant and convenient that helps me sleep at night, on the basis of pure faith? Sure, nothing wrong with that. But my belief is little more than a vague certainty that there is more to the cosmos than science has yet unravelled, and how exactly it is that conscious self-awareness resides in the physical matter of the brain is a philosophical problem that is not going away.
SPIRITUALITY has no structure and spiritual teachers/gurus/whatever are widely viewed as crackpots and charlatans and their followings as deranged cults. But the ones that don't fall into the tyrannical profiteering of organised religion are really not so bad. They believe some things, okay. Can they prove any of them? Some claim to be able to. Have they proved any of them to me? Not yet. That doesn't mean I need to declare a holy war on them.
Absolute proof is not essential. In fact, in a lot of ways absolute proof of anything is impossible because there's no objective way of ratifying the accuracy and reliability of our senses. That is of course what faith is all about and what fuels religion and spirituality and superstition the world over. People want to believe nice things, convenient things. It's easy.
Even people who believe in science tend strongly to take it all on faith, to simply believe what the learned people tell them without attempting to challenge it. One group of learned people claims another group has provided adequate proof and then the lay masses take that as writ. There's nothing wrong with that, it would be plainly absurd to think that any single person could independently verify for themselves all human knowledge in all domains. Even among those learned few who prove things absolutely, they prove to themselves only those things within their domain and then simply take the word of other people on all other matters.
Human beings cannot know anything other than that they (and they alone) are conscious and thinking and must exist in some sense. All else is taken on some level of faith.
Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
So do I believe in "God"? Define the term. Do I believe in the "great beyond"? Define the term. Do I believe something pleasant and convenient that helps me sleep at night, on the basis of pure faith? Sure, nothing wrong with that. But my belief is little more than a vague certainty that there is more to the cosmos than science has yet unravelled, and how exactly it is that conscious self-awareness resides in the physical matter of the brain is a philosophical problem that is not going away.
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i don't believe in god but i'm open to religion just not the ones that are turn yourself over to god heavy
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Well I consider myself an atheist, so no, I dont believe in "God" or in the "Greater" beyond. And concerning creation, I think we're all an accident of the universe, at some point there was a particles clash that initiate a chain of events that lead to our creation. (sorry if my english is bad)
But I also strongly believe in probabilities, so lets imagine that Im wrong, the truth is one of these options:
1) There isnt any "God" (as I explained before we're an accident of the universe)
2) There is a "God" but ,as other people already said, he's an @sshole and cruel one that uses our suffering for his own amusement. But can you blame him? if you had that much power wouldnt you search for new ways to entertain yourself LOL (that was a jk). Sometimes when I talk with people that do believe in the "good God" , I asked them: "how can you believe that he loves humanity after seeing all the evil there is in the world? how can you think he's good considering the fact that he allows so much evil?" and they always give me the same answer: "cause he gave us freewill." and then I tell them: "So you're saying that freewill doesnt allow him to help us...then I ask you, who do you think was the one who created that thing you call freewill?, it was your "good God", so he is the one that created the limitations that forbids him to make the world a better place".
So, in other words, if "God" exists, then he is a cruel one. But as I said before, I believe there isnt a "God", or rather, I chose to believe there isnt one cause otherwise we're all screwed.
But I also strongly believe in probabilities, so lets imagine that Im wrong, the truth is one of these options:
1) There isnt any "God" (as I explained before we're an accident of the universe)
2) There is a "God" but ,as other people already said, he's an @sshole and cruel one that uses our suffering for his own amusement. But can you blame him? if you had that much power wouldnt you search for new ways to entertain yourself LOL (that was a jk). Sometimes when I talk with people that do believe in the "good God" , I asked them: "how can you believe that he loves humanity after seeing all the evil there is in the world? how can you think he's good considering the fact that he allows so much evil?" and they always give me the same answer: "cause he gave us freewill." and then I tell them: "So you're saying that freewill doesnt allow him to help us...then I ask you, who do you think was the one who created that thing you call freewill?, it was your "good God", so he is the one that created the limitations that forbids him to make the world a better place".
So, in other words, if "God" exists, then he is a cruel one. But as I said before, I believe there isnt a "God", or rather, I chose to believe there isnt one cause otherwise we're all screwed.
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i' agnostic. i wish i believed in a great beyond, but i don't..makes life a little depressing since i feel this is my only shot at life.
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No simply because the idea of an omnipotent, all-powerful dude in the sky isn't very believable. If someone can give me proof that God exists than i might change my mind but i highly doubt anyone will.
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I lack belief in any higher power or that of the beyond, though I have some difficulty in calling myself an atheist due to my present company. Since those of strong faith feel the need for my conversion. I love a good argument but I hate fights. My lack of faith comes down to nothing more than my inability rationalize the existence of a higher-power.
Due to my love of both the logical and illogical I feel it necessary to state this. Some people think that by pointing out the flaws and contradictions in religious practices and scriptures is a way to disprove the existence of a god(s). Taking the Torah (Old Testament) for example, any contradictions or parts that do not make great sense can stem from the stories originally being orally passed down for centuries before finally being written and even then not all stories were kept; the word of God passed by man and in his hand.
Due to my love of both the logical and illogical I feel it necessary to state this. Some people think that by pointing out the flaws and contradictions in religious practices and scriptures is a way to disprove the existence of a god(s). Taking the Torah (Old Testament) for example, any contradictions or parts that do not make great sense can stem from the stories originally being orally passed down for centuries before finally being written and even then not all stories were kept; the word of God passed by man and in his hand.
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Let me ask u guys something, whr do humans come from?
How does the planets form?
Hav u ever thought abt this?
100% there is a god. its jus tat we d9 it.
How does the planets form?
Hav u ever thought abt this?
100% there is a god. its jus tat we d9 it.
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shinji_ikari
Mustn't Run Away...
CutieBBoy wrote...
Let me ask u guys something, whr do humans come from?How does the planets form?
Hav u ever thought abt this?
100% there is a god. its jus tat we d9 it.
fine mr.soulful...who made god then ?