Do you hate the U.S?
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Alright ever since I was a kid I'd I always heard ppl saying that d U.S. sucks but as I grew older I learned d real facts. And personaly I don't know why everyone says d U.S. sucks so much. Most of the ppl I ask respond with horrible reasons such as "the ppl here suck"
Anyway back to d point how does d U.S. suck when it's military,society, and economy (somewhat) is superior (somewhat) to most nations. So yes I am asking oh to give me your opinion and educate me on this
Let d debate....BEGIN lol
Anyway back to d point how does d U.S. suck when it's military,society, and economy (somewhat) is superior (somewhat) to most nations. So yes I am asking oh to give me your opinion and educate me on this
Let d debate....BEGIN lol
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I love the constitution, I love the scenery and archetecture.
I
Hate
The
Attitude...
And about half it's citizens. (View has since altered to only hate the extremists on both sides and the lazy asses who don't vote)
Michigander here.
I
Hate
The
Attitude...
And about half it's citizens. (View has since altered to only hate the extremists on both sides and the lazy asses who don't vote)
Michigander here.
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I love most things about this country... I hate the way people drive in my state? (actually I think I'm in one of the top 5 worst states to drive in.) Also, our obsession with the weirdest people/celebs freaks me out. Octo-mom anyone?
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I've visited the States on un-even dates (yes, I'm not from the states, mind you), and liked it very much.
However, there is almost no desire from my part to visit again, only if needed, due to the horror stories that string out of airport customs and security. (Some have chilled me to the core)
I have several contacts in the states, who are all awesome, but I dislike the obsession with celebs and almost paranoid fear in some cases; but none of us are alien to that, I guess.
In conclusion, don't love the states, don't hate the states; neutral party.
Cheers.
However, there is almost no desire from my part to visit again, only if needed, due to the horror stories that string out of airport customs and security. (Some have chilled me to the core)
I have several contacts in the states, who are all awesome, but I dislike the obsession with celebs and almost paranoid fear in some cases; but none of us are alien to that, I guess.
In conclusion, don't love the states, don't hate the states; neutral party.
Cheers.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
I love what Americans provide my country (Canada) with but I dislike the overall arrogance and general (not everyone) opinion that you they are the best in the world, and therefore don't need to learn about other countries. Also the blindfolded patriotism Americans seem to shove into others faces is sickening, I love my country, I'm very proud to be Canadian, but I don't think everyone should shut the fuck up when criticizing my governments actions (as i have been told by many Americans in the past). When speaking to an individual the majority of Americans are sane, rational and reasoned, when speaking to the masses they're dumb, panicky and ignorant beyond belief.
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sv51macross wrote...
I love the constitution, I love the scenery and archetecture.I
Hate
The
Attitude...
And about half it's citizens.
The irony gets me everytime... You hate the attitude but have the balls to hate over a 150 million people without getting to know them? Wow...
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I don't hate it, nor do I have any loyilty to it. It just happens to be were I live. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Waar
FAKKU Moderator
PersonDude wrote...
sv51macross wrote...
I love the constitution, I love the scenery and archetecture.I
Hate
The
Attitude...
And about half it's citizens.
The irony gets me everytime... You hate the attitude but have the balls to hate over a 150 million people without getting to know them? Wow...
He probably does know quite a few Americans, I'm from Canada and I know enough of them to know what the majority is like. I don't think his figure should be taken literally, in fact I believe he was referring to either democrats or republicans (most likely the latter) as your political system is often viewed as a 50/50 split.
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Actually someone was talking about a similar subject like this in my school, he said he hated the way the US is GOING since it has stopped caring more about its people and now its all about money and land when the Country begins to fail its people, the country is doomed to fail, those werent his words, but I think thats what he meant... He said that Canada is Doing better than the US in taking care of its people...
But alas that is all I could basically understand...
and to answer the question...
I really, realy dont know... I know I dont hate it...
But alas that is all I could basically understand...
and to answer the question...
I really, realy dont know... I know I dont hate it...
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Waar wrote...
He probably does know quite a few Americans, I'm from Canada and I know enough of them to know what the majority is like. I don't think his figure should be taken literally, in fact I believe he was referring to either democrats or republicans (most likely the latter) as your political system is often viewed as a 50/50 split.The point of my post was to point out his the attitude taken in his post. He claimed to hate so many people (even if it isn't true) but is able to say we've got a "bad attitude". Aside from personal opinion, anyone would consider that comment as something someone with a "bad attitude" would say regardless of it being true or not.
EDIT: I notice that a lot of people judge Americans based off of the media or just 'cause it's the trend now-a-days. There was a thread like this a year ago I believe and there were many people who said they hated Americans until they were faced with the fact that there were many users (including the admins of this site) who were Americans. They saw things in a different light and tried to back-pedal and claimed they never hated Americans.
What I'm trying to get at is, don't try and go with the trend because mob mentality is unbecoming. Think before you post on this subject. This is in the serious discussion for a reason.
Now as an American, I have to say yes, we're quite patriotic, but what country don't have people with national pride? Is it such a crime to like the country you grew up in? Try going to an Asian country and you'll see blind patriotism like no other.
As for shoving it in other people's faces, I'm guessing people are talking about how America going into other country where it's non of their business. But have you guys tried to consider what it's like for a country who has the power to help and doesn't help? Not only that, look at those countries who complain because we DON'T help. Some countries contradict themselves saying we go to far and when we back out they ask and whine about how we're a cruel country who don't help anyone but ourselves. I don't know about you guys, but I think this is unfair reasoning.
I'm an American, and I'm proud of it like everyone should take pride in their own country.
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@Waar: Don't you think most people(excepting those who live in undeveloped war torn nations or totalitarian nations) probably think their own country is the best place? In the US, when I often talk to immigrants from South America, who are one of the major immigrant groups today, they all still love their home countries. Sure, they often admire the opportunity to succeed that one can find in the US, but they all tell me all the things they love about back home and their native culture. Even when home isn't perfect, and no country is, we still love it.
To answer the main question, I am a native of the US and I think it is a great place. I admire my country's system of government, our ways of free thought, the natural beauty and expansiveness of the landscape, and many many other things.
I've been to a number of other countries, and I admire various aspects of their cultures and ways of life, but my best memories are of my times in my homeland. I love and admire the US ideals and way of life. Of all the places I have been, there is no where I would rather live. So yes, for me, the US is the greatest country in the world, and I don't think it's arrogant to say that.
It becomes arrogance if I decided that because I love my way of life and my country, that everyone else should become like me, if I start disparaging other nations and cultures for their differences. Unfortunately, some US natives do this. We have had some governments that have tried to bully other nations. Despite this, loving the US and being an arrogant jerk towards other cultures are different things, and just as I believe that the natives of the US should not be hostile and callous towards other cultures, those other cultures should avoid doing the same thing to the US.
There are many people on Fakku who call other nations their homes, and I would be surprised if many of you don't believe your homeland is the greatest nation on earth. Then for you, it is. It doesn't diminish my beliefs or my way of live, it just shows that we value different things, and that it is only natural to love one's home.
To answer the main question, I am a native of the US and I think it is a great place. I admire my country's system of government, our ways of free thought, the natural beauty and expansiveness of the landscape, and many many other things.
I've been to a number of other countries, and I admire various aspects of their cultures and ways of life, but my best memories are of my times in my homeland. I love and admire the US ideals and way of life. Of all the places I have been, there is no where I would rather live. So yes, for me, the US is the greatest country in the world, and I don't think it's arrogant to say that.
It becomes arrogance if I decided that because I love my way of life and my country, that everyone else should become like me, if I start disparaging other nations and cultures for their differences. Unfortunately, some US natives do this. We have had some governments that have tried to bully other nations. Despite this, loving the US and being an arrogant jerk towards other cultures are different things, and just as I believe that the natives of the US should not be hostile and callous towards other cultures, those other cultures should avoid doing the same thing to the US.
There are many people on Fakku who call other nations their homes, and I would be surprised if many of you don't believe your homeland is the greatest nation on earth. Then for you, it is. It doesn't diminish my beliefs or my way of live, it just shows that we value different things, and that it is only natural to love one's home.
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Zak wrote...
since it has stopped caring more about its people and now its all about moneyWhen were you born? Were you born in some mystical land where money hasn't controlled the world for like 100000000000000000 years?
Waar wrote...
I love what Americans provide my country (Canada) with but I dislike the overall arrogance and generalLOL I don't usually like to say LOL but fuck me sideways if this wasn't one of the funniest things I’ve read in a while. Really I love what they do just not how they think their sweet because of it.
But on the topic do I hate America of course not I’m American. I love my country do I think were the greatest Fuck NO. We suck ass at most things still a backward fuck house of stupid idiots and all the smart people are working for the special interest. But there’s no debate we got the best military or were the biggest interferers in the world. Sure most of the people are idiots that just care about cleb’s, and every presidential elections comes down to a popularity contest. But I still love America we have a lot of problems but so does every other country in the world. Everyone wants a scapegoat to blame all the world’s problems on, and that’s America that’s fine with me just means were doing something and that’s better than doing nothing.
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semper fideleis my friends. every man and woman has the right to be patriotic and loyal to the end, even to the point where it seems conceited or arrogant. americans are pegged as the prime example of a self-absorbed country due to its excess of commercial support for patriotism such as supporting their troops, but is it really a suprise? its generally regarded as the most powerful country in the world, your bound to hear what the over achievers have to say about their performance sooner or later. more power to them, its quite obvious their methods are effective at achieving some fraction of the goal they intended to reach.
im canadian and very patriotic about my country, theres no where else in the world as culturally diverse as we are and this exemplary coexistence has changed my life for the better.
im canadian and very patriotic about my country, theres no where else in the world as culturally diverse as we are and this exemplary coexistence has changed my life for the better.
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America. Quite a touchy subject. Diffcult to explain my feelings. Here I'll try.
Freedom of Speech. Before it was say whatever the fuck you want. Now if you say something offensive or something or say a curse word in public and a child and a crazy mother are by you can go to Jail. Don't believe me? This has actually happened to me last year. Crazy ass mother fucking mom. In Short - Freedom of Speech is Dying. FAST.
Women. Before it was treat women nice and all this other shit chivlery and what not. Women hated being treated as our cooks and maids. Didn't they get to stay home all day while the man does possiblely very hellish work?! There are other reasons but now... now it's the same thing but they have jobs. A man hits a woman he goes to jail. A man calls a woman fat he gets a restraining order put on him. A woman beats a man nothing happens because there is always a good reason. A man defends himself and hits the girl back and the man goes the jail while the woman goes to Oprah and cries and gets tons of fucking money!!! In Short - Most but not all women in this country are evil, manipulative, nymphos (or not nymphos). Nuff said.
School. Keeping this brief. You enter school you are entering a communist world. All your rights are stripped. You can do as you please in Highschool but you'll pay outta the ass for it until you get Outside Suspension. Then it's a forced vacation.
Voting. We just gotta trust our lil peices of paper with a checkmark make it through to the counting person... or machine. Whatever.
Freedom of doing things. Hell all those things above me are complaining but we can just about do whatever we want here. We are still forced to do some things but I got plenty of choices of what to do each day. I can call off work and go drink the whole day away and still be getting paid. What other country would allow that?
Anyways. America has still got some of it's good things but it seems to be circling the drain. So for now America gets a 7 outta 10 from me.
Freedom of Speech. Before it was say whatever the fuck you want. Now if you say something offensive or something or say a curse word in public and a child and a crazy mother are by you can go to Jail. Don't believe me? This has actually happened to me last year. Crazy ass mother fucking mom. In Short - Freedom of Speech is Dying. FAST.
Women. Before it was treat women nice and all this other shit chivlery and what not. Women hated being treated as our cooks and maids. Didn't they get to stay home all day while the man does possiblely very hellish work?! There are other reasons but now... now it's the same thing but they have jobs. A man hits a woman he goes to jail. A man calls a woman fat he gets a restraining order put on him. A woman beats a man nothing happens because there is always a good reason. A man defends himself and hits the girl back and the man goes the jail while the woman goes to Oprah and cries and gets tons of fucking money!!! In Short - Most but not all women in this country are evil, manipulative, nymphos (or not nymphos). Nuff said.
School. Keeping this brief. You enter school you are entering a communist world. All your rights are stripped. You can do as you please in Highschool but you'll pay outta the ass for it until you get Outside Suspension. Then it's a forced vacation.
Voting. We just gotta trust our lil peices of paper with a checkmark make it through to the counting person... or machine. Whatever.
Freedom of doing things. Hell all those things above me are complaining but we can just about do whatever we want here. We are still forced to do some things but I got plenty of choices of what to do each day. I can call off work and go drink the whole day away and still be getting paid. What other country would allow that?
Anyways. America has still got some of it's good things but it seems to be circling the drain. So for now America gets a 7 outta 10 from me.
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I should clarify; I have a certain disdain, as has been assumed, for the 'too big for it's britches' egotism that America has, as well as the unreasoned fear, widespread Germophobia [I agree with the late and great Gorge Carlin here], and infatuation w/ meaningless eunuchs who can sing nice. Certainly there are very numerous good individuals, but it seems like there's more bad than good most days.
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Afroman wrote...
America. Quite a touchy subject. Diffcult to explain my feelings. Here I'll try.Freedom of Speech. Before it was say whatever the fuck you want. Now if you say something offensive or something or say a curse word in public and a child and a crazy mother are by you can go to Jail. Don't believe me? This has actually happened to me last year. Crazy ass mother fucking mom. In Short - Freedom of Speech is Dying. FAST.
Women. Before it was treat women nice and all this other shit chivlery and what not. Women hated being treated as our cooks and maids. Didn't they get to stay home all day while the man does possiblely very hellish work?! There are other reasons but now... now it's the same thing but they have jobs. A man hits a woman he goes to jail. A man calls a woman fat he gets a restraining order put on him. A woman beats a man nothing happens because there is always a good reason. A man defends himself and hits the girl back and the man goes the jail while the woman goes to Oprah and cries and gets tons of fucking money!!! In Short - Most but not all women in this country are evil, manipulative, nymphos (or not nymphos). Nuff said.
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^ What he said. +1 for honesty. [not the first half of the second paragraph though]
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sv51macross wrote...
Afroman wrote...
America. Quite a touchy subject. Diffcult to explain my feelings. Here I'll try.Freedom of Speech. Before it was say whatever the fuck you want. Now if you say something offensive or something or say a curse word in public and a child and a crazy mother are by you can go to Jail. Don't believe me? This has actually happened to me last year. Crazy ass mother fucking mom. In Short - Freedom of Speech is Dying. FAST.
Women. Before it was treat women nice and all this other shit chivlery and what not. Women hated being treated as our cooks and maids. Didn't they get to stay home all day while the man does possiblely very hellish work?! There are other reasons but now... now it's the same thing but they have jobs. A man hits a woman he goes to jail. A man calls a woman fat he gets a restraining order put on him. A woman beats a man nothing happens because there is always a good reason. A man defends himself and hits the girl back and the man goes the jail while the woman goes to Oprah and cries and gets tons of fucking money!!! In Short - Most but not all women in this country are evil, manipulative, nymphos (or not nymphos). Nuff said.
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^ What he said. +1 for honesty. [not the first half of the second paragraph though]
WoW You R kind of right .....and I love the USA it gives it's people the most freedom of any other country in the world.
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I'm a U.S. citizen and there are quite a few things I hate about this country, but that goes for everywhere. It isn't like I'd rather live anywhere else. The thing I hate the most is the "big brother" attitude of the government where we think we are entitled, and even responsible, to look after and tell other nations how to run their government and treat their people.
I wish I lived during the Isolationist movement. -_-
I find it amazing that the government is surprised by how many countries and people despise the United States when about every average American citizen understands why quite easily.
I wish I lived during the Isolationist movement. -_-
I find it amazing that the government is surprised by how many countries and people despise the United States when about every average American citizen understands why quite easily.
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I personally don't mind U.S. hegemony that much, I just sometimes wish they did their job right. There's no such thing as a benevolent super-power; all of them will try to secure their advantage at any cost. I don't think America is particularly worse than any other major power in this, and therefore I don't hate them for that.
There are things I dislike, but I think it would be unbecoming for me to bad-mouth someone else's home-country.
There are things I dislike, but I think it would be unbecoming for me to bad-mouth someone else's home-country.
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Brittany
Director of Production
I get annoyed when people stem America as one big lump. There's -a lot- of diversity in the United States, and I think that's why problems occur. We have no culture as a whole. We have just about every single race lumped together in one big continent and different opinions form.
Go to Texas and then to Nebraska and tell me if you notice a difference.
It's called stereotypes. And everyone needs a scape goat, and America is all the rage now when it comes to scape goats.
It's because most of the time if you're not from the United States and you've never been to the United States all you get to hear is the media - and media is -nothing- about what the American life is like.
There's stereotypes on every country. Just, everyone likes to ignore those and go straight for the scape goat.
When you talk to American's as individuals, they're not the soul sucking, arrogant, flag holding idiot everyone likes to make them sound.
Go to Texas and then to Nebraska and tell me if you notice a difference.
It's called stereotypes. And everyone needs a scape goat, and America is all the rage now when it comes to scape goats.
It's because most of the time if you're not from the United States and you've never been to the United States all you get to hear is the media - and media is -nothing- about what the American life is like.
There's stereotypes on every country. Just, everyone likes to ignore those and go straight for the scape goat.
When you talk to American's as individuals, they're not the soul sucking, arrogant, flag holding idiot everyone likes to make them sound.