The True God
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You see, I'm kinda like a religious person and, by paper, I belong in the Christian Faith. We are thought of one true God, who created us, saved us, cleansed us of our sins, blah blah and more blah. I'm also fond of mythology, occultism, and of other religions, so I have a background of various beliefs. Each of these faiths have their own "true" God and various minor gods, spirits, demons, etc.
I just wanna know: For you guys, do you believe in one true God? And if so, who is he for you? Is he like the Christianic God who loves and cares for us, or is he a far-away deity who created us unintentionally? Is he malevolent or benevolent?
I have my own idea on this, but I wanna know your views first.
Discussion... Start!
P.S. This will not be a thread of theist vs atheist or christians vs muslims or whatever. Just share your views. Atheistic and agnostic views are welcome.
I just wanna know: For you guys, do you believe in one true God? And if so, who is he for you? Is he like the Christianic God who loves and cares for us, or is he a far-away deity who created us unintentionally? Is he malevolent or benevolent?
I have my own idea on this, but I wanna know your views first.
Discussion... Start!
P.S. This will not be a thread of theist vs atheist or christians vs muslims or whatever. Just share your views. Atheistic and agnostic views are welcome.
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I believe in no god. Plus, me and religion don't mix. I do, however, prefer certain gods over others. For example, I think the Greek gods were fucking bad ass, and Jesus has nothing on Zeus.
If I was somehow forced to believe in a god, then I'd just become a deist. God made the universe, then went away. Personality traits unnecessary.
If I was somehow forced to believe in a god, then I'd just become a deist. God made the universe, then went away. Personality traits unnecessary.
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Xil
Norse God of Sawdust
Forever atheist, here.
Even if there is a single powerful God who made everything as it is, it would not be a God I would want to worship.
Even if there is a single powerful God who made everything as it is, it would not be a God I would want to worship.
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I believe in god in the form of some force we don't understand yet, but as far as the stories in the Bible, or the book(s) of any other faith, then I think they are just stories.
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Xil
Norse God of Sawdust
thegreatnobody wrote...
I'm seeing a lack of theistic views... Is atheism and agnosticism that rampant these days?I like to think it is for a reason.
If something does not make enough sense, more people will take an alternative. I don't know if that says something about the people and times we live in, or most religion.
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According to the school I attend, I'm Christian. However, I don't share these views a much as they do.
They call God a loving, all powerful being. That we were created by him only to praise him. However, a loving God would not create someone just to praise them. And a god who wants us to worship him is not all that loving, in my opinion. So neither of those statements are completely true then.
All-powerful? No. His power is determined by the people who worship him. If many people worship him, his power grows as the fear of 'disobeying' him rises. If noone worships a god however, they are powerless, as people don't care about what it does.
My 2 cents.
They call God a loving, all powerful being. That we were created by him only to praise him. However, a loving God would not create someone just to praise them. And a god who wants us to worship him is not all that loving, in my opinion. So neither of those statements are completely true then.
All-powerful? No. His power is determined by the people who worship him. If many people worship him, his power grows as the fear of 'disobeying' him rises. If noone worships a god however, they are powerless, as people don't care about what it does.
My 2 cents.
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Xil wrote...
thegreatnobody wrote...
I'm seeing a lack of theistic views... Is atheism and agnosticism that rampant these days?I like to think it is for a reason.
If something does not make enough sense, more people will take an alternative. I don't know if that says something about the people and times we live in, or most religion.
Yeah, religion as a systemmatic structure is starting to make no sense as time flies, maybe because it basically didn't evolve much at all since its birth. People rationally start to tire of the same old shit and starts to turn away from it.
Quadratic wrote...
According to the school I attend, I'm Christian. However, I don't share these views a much as they do.They call God a loving, all powerful being. That we were created by him only to praise him. However, a loving God would not create someone just to praise them. And a god who wants us to worship him is not all that loving, in my opinion. So neither of those statements are completely true then.
All-powerful? No. His power is determined by the people who worship him. If many people worship him, his power grows as the fear of 'disobeying' him rises. If no one worships a god however, they are powerless, as people don't care about what it does.
My 2 cents.
The Christian belief that God made us just to worship him do seems odd.That view gives God a malevolent side, almost saying the same as that we are made solely for pleasure.
It is possible that if everybody stops thinking of God, he will cease to exist because he is unacknowledged by anyone and there will be no one to affirm his existence.
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I'm an athiest. From my point of view it doesn't make any sense at all to believe in a god. I do like the Roman and Greek gods though. Mythology makes them sound awesome.
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thegreatnobody wrote...
Xil wrote...
thegreatnobody wrote...
I'm seeing a lack of theistic views... Is atheism and agnosticism that rampant these days?I like to think it is for a reason.
If something does not make enough sense, more people will take an alternative. I don't know if that says something about the people and times we live in, or most religion.
Yeah, religion as a systemmatic structure is starting to make no sense as time flies, maybe because it basically didn't evolve much at all since its birth. People rationally start to tire of the same old shit and starts to turn away from it.
Because religion does not change it's beliefs as new evidence of the world comes to light.
Here's a basic and very accurate description:
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I do not believe in god yet I am willing to accept God's existence if there is evidence. I just live by logic.
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Xil
Norse God of Sawdust
Quadratic wrote...
They call God a loving, all powerful being. That we were created by him only to praise him. However, a loving God would not create someone just to praise them. And a god who wants us to worship him is not all that loving, in my opinion. So neither of those statements are completely true then.All-powerful? No. His power is determined by the people who worship him. If many people worship him, his power grows as the fear of 'disobeying' him rises. If noone worships a god however, they are powerless, as people don't care about what it does.
My 2 cents.
Hah, well put my friend. That's about the time they admit they do not know everything, and god works in mysterious ways... Well dammit, then why the hell are you devoting your life to it?
I think most people are just masochists... Need something bigger and better than them to always put them in their place, and control everything so they know nothing is ever wrong or out of control. It all happens because God makes it happen.
Plus I mean, hell. If this is the best God can do... it's most certainly not something to put on a resume.
EDIT: lol great pic, Rbz.
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Well... I used to call myself a Christian and was active in church, but those days are gone. Dunno why really, suddenly my faith more or less just faded.
Nowadays I don't know what I believe anymore. But roughly put I believe that there is one True God and at the same time there is millions of him. That not matter what religion you consider yourself part of, you still worship the same god, but under different names. Thus God is one, but also every deity/god there is at the same time.
Anyone managed to follow my train of thought?
Nowadays I don't know what I believe anymore. But roughly put I believe that there is one True God and at the same time there is millions of him. That not matter what religion you consider yourself part of, you still worship the same god, but under different names. Thus God is one, but also every deity/god there is at the same time.
Anyone managed to follow my train of thought?
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As I can see, religion is failing because it is trying to cross the line made for science (like fundamentalists trying to be scientist against evolutionists). Science is meant for understanding the what and how, giving us power, and religion is there to explain why and for what purpose, making a moral compass for which that power is to be used for.
As the graph states, many religious people do ignore logic, making them powerlessly cling to hope and faith, which is saying goes that without action is dead.
Nowadays I don't know what I believe anymore. But roughly put I believe that there is one True God and at the same time there is millions of him. That not matter what religion you consider yourself part of, you still worship the same god, but under different names. Thus God is one, but also every deity/god there is at the same time.
Anyone managed to follow my train of thought?
Yep, and we call it agnosticism.
As the graph states, many religious people do ignore logic, making them powerlessly cling to hope and faith, which is saying goes that without action is dead.
Chlor wrote...
Well... I used to call myself a Christian and was active in church, but those days are gone. Dunno why really, suddenly my faith more or less just faded.Nowadays I don't know what I believe anymore. But roughly put I believe that there is one True God and at the same time there is millions of him. That not matter what religion you consider yourself part of, you still worship the same god, but under different names. Thus God is one, but also every deity/god there is at the same time.
Anyone managed to follow my train of thought?
Yep, and we call it agnosticism.
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I'm atheist, but if i were to believe in all mighty God. it would probably go like this. God created everything......And left....... Or God created everything put a little piece of himself in each one of us, and lives within us. Each individual person in the world can make a difference, But everyone(or almost everyone) working together can make a change. A "godly" change......To bad not enough people can actually work together in this world without throwing the word "Nuke" in.
Edit: i turned atheist because when i was Catholic..... My life sucked.. After i stopped worshiping....my life turned around like immediately.
Edit: i turned atheist because when i was Catholic..... My life sucked.. After i stopped worshiping....my life turned around like immediately.
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Chlor wrote...
But roughly put I believe that there is one True God and at the same time there is millions of him. That not matter what religion you consider yourself part of, you still worship the same god, but under different names.So you're saying that Zeus and Ares are the same god? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Xil wrote...
I think most people are just masochists... Need something bigger and better than them to always put them in their place, and control everything so they know nothing is ever wrong or out of control. It all happens because God makes it happen.Some people are just predisposed to faith, while others are born more skeptical.
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At this moment in time, there is no way to prove or disprove if a god exists.
Im an Atheist. Ive been turned away from religion due to fanatics and loopholes within them.
As far as I can tell, God was created by man, not vice versa.
Im an Atheist. Ive been turned away from religion due to fanatics and loopholes within them.
As far as I can tell, God was created by man, not vice versa.
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thegreatnobody wrote...
and religion is there to explain why and for what purpose, making a moral compass for which that power is to be used for.And unlike science, the explanations offered by religion are bolstered by nothing. Which means there's absolutely no reason to accept anything religion says as fact; hence faith.
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I used to believe in a God since I was a kid, but evidence seems to suggest otherwise and lately I've been seeing things in an atheist's mindset. Still hard to break out of what I've grown up with, but I'll probably turn into a full atheist.
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I am the granite rock of atheism. I have accepted that we are all alone in a cold and dark universe and can fall back on no-one but ourselves for guidance.
While ancient polytheistic cults were certainly somewhat more likeable in their general tolerance than modern cults (cf. Schopenhauer, Parerga and Paralipomena), if I had to follow some sort of religion, I'd probably much rather join some siberian animist cult where a shaman gets high on a weekly basis and no further action on my part is required to show my allegiance to my new faith; save, perhaps, for swearing КÐÐГРПОСЫЛÐЙ Ð¥ÐМБУ! instead of Gadzooks!.
While ancient polytheistic cults were certainly somewhat more likeable in their general tolerance than modern cults (cf. Schopenhauer, Parerga and Paralipomena), if I had to follow some sort of religion, I'd probably much rather join some siberian animist cult where a shaman gets high on a weekly basis and no further action on my part is required to show my allegiance to my new faith; save, perhaps, for swearing КÐÐГРПОСЫЛÐЙ Ð¥ÐМБУ! instead of Gadzooks!.