Fate/Extra Western Release! Also: Sequel Planned!

That would be cool, mate.

Also, I just thought of how to make a Saber Red in-joke in three panels:

Don't you find it ironic that Arthuria is often symbolized as proud lion while Nero is know for her "strangling a lion" while naked act. Now if we could only find a fanart with Nero strangling Saber Lion.LoL
Who will Win?:

I never even put that together before now. Haha~

Yeah I thought about that a while back and tried to commission a buddy of mine to draw it but he was tempted until I told him it was Nero and being the overly religious person he is it got refused.

That's a shame. Understandable, but a shame.
If he saw any of the scenes with Saber Extra Red it might've changed his mind. Like you lot (probably) know by now, I'm Christian and adore our fair Saber Extra Red. Saber is our favorite servant in Fate lore if only because of the liberties Nasu took with her. If she was a genocidal bastard like Nero was then I think we'd all have a hard time playing the game with her.

Maybe he'll change his mind if you explain how different Saber Red Hot Extra is from the real Nero. She loves art, is blissfully conceited, and adores both Greek anything and both genders, but aside from that she's nothing like one of the most despicable human beings to ever exist.

Do you guys think the release date posted in type-moon wkiki is real?
http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Fate/Extra_CCC

Aksys would be drumming up more of a commotion if the release was just a month away. Besides, Fate/EXTRA only had one guy on it (with some personal help) and it took a year to translate. I doubt Aksys would put more manpower into CCC and have it done so quickly.

No idea where the wiki gets the news from. Maybe Aksys will say something at Pax, but I doubt it. So far they seem to be happy about their potential release of the Vita/3DS Escape Adventure game (and rightly so).
Wish the Vita wasn't as expensive as a newborn...

Anyway, we'll get the news eventually if it happens.

Oooh Nero and Arturia talk.

If I were to choose between the two in a war I'd get Arturia. To be truly honest she has more battle potential imo, i doubt i need to explain why.

If it were to choose between the two when im stuck in an island with no hope of getting out, I'd choose Nero for self-preservation reasons. I doubt an island will have enough stocks of food to feed that king...

Probably just a cruel April fool's joke.hehe

If we want to talk of Nero vs Arturia then Nero is technically better in all areas for various reasons considering a max stat Nero on Extra has S ranks across the board whereas even with a good master Arturia doesn't come close so it would be forced into a battle of NP's Nero's is an anti-person possibly an anti-army type whereas Arturia possess an anti-fortress type.

Outside of combat Nero has the better personality and body on top of being less of a glutton.

Thus my statement still stand Nero > Arturia.

Haha~ Nice reasons! Arturia does have a lot of potential and she is very well written. Plus, being a King Arthur derivative, she has similar religious views I can dig. I like characters like her.

However, I have to go with Saber Extra Red because of the dynamics to her character. There's other stuff too, like:


But NPs and hidden battle potential aside, I just prefer how Saber Extra Red is written.

Way I see it:
Saber Arturia wanted to be the king her people deserved, a ruler worthy of the crown and power given to her, and in the process locked up a lot of her humanity to be a just king. Not that she was evil. She was amazing. She was just such an amazingly selfless individual that she even went after the Holy Grail just on the hope she could change things so that a possibly better king could take the crown. In the end if she had the person she was in history would be erased and she would probably grow up as just some justice-loving girl and not into the king she was. It's effectively a round-about suicide!
But she was willing to do it because she wanted desperately to change things for the better. Not for herself, but for her people.

Saber Extra Red was manipulated since youth and though she tried to be a good ruler, the usual politics of Rome (family members poisoning you, officials trying to oust you for any reason, people wanting you dead just because you're Ceasar, etc.) took its tole on her. It's obvious that growing up under a mother like hers gave her a severe complex about wanting to be accepted and needing to prove herself constantly. She developed a dichotomy where she was cocky and conceited, but also desperate for affection and praise. Between the secret poisoning from her mother and all that silver she went fucking insane. She killed her mother in public and drove her own Merlin-equivalent (guy who helps guide her and cares about her) into the grave. Alone, mentally unstable, and surrounded by Roman politicians who wanted to use her mental weakness as an advantage to manipulate her governing, she spiraled out of control. The kingly morals she held dearly skewed into cowardice and malice, and when fingers were pointed she blamed an entire group of people and started a Christian holocaust! She didn't hide her humanity to be a king. She lost it completely.
She didn't die in affection like Arturia. She died in fear and loneliness.

For the real Nero that's what he deserved.
For Saber Extra Red, it was just the ultimate comeuppance for acts she never would've committed were it not for cruel manipulation and absolute insanity. She is the truest victim of circumstance.

Just my thoughts, though. Both great characters, but in the end I find Saber Extra Red more interesting all around. Plus, her backstory helps make the romance in the story feel more important to EXTRA than F/SN for me.

Anyway, just remember,

Saber and Saber can indeed coexist.

Just not under the same roof.

Hey what if Araya Souren or any other KnK mages joined the Grail war?

Wow, nice. If it comes out in Europe then I might as well try it... though first I'd have to go buy a PSP ;P

just go buy 2nd hand psp lol.

Here's a thought that occurred to me which servant do you consider to be the true route? how about as an anime?

As much as I like Nero I don't think it could be the true route and definitely not more Archer, but Caster might be a better option since she was summoned in a prior war as a certain someone's servant which added a little more back story to the game itself.

So if they were to make an Anime I personally would like Nero or Tamomo.....im kind of tired at how much they over use Archer.

Well that was the idea :D

Also on type moon wikia they announced the anime adaptation of Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya http://typemoon.wikia.com/wiki/TYPE-MOON_Wiki

Who was Tamomo's master? I thought that was just a reference to the emperor from the myth she comes from.

I'd go with Saber Red first for this too for the same reasons I listed before, but to be honest I'd really enjoy an adaptation of the EXTRA Holy Grail War story with the protagonist and Tamomo. She's a really good character and a totally original one too. Plus the handicap of Caster vs Saber is great and the potential to expound on her primal nature would make for potentially amazing stuff in an animation adaptation (so long as they took a few liberties).

On that note: I can't get over the question that if Nasu was going to make shit up with Gawain's NP and Archer's identity (both being original material not derived from legend), then why didn't he go the whole nine yards and rename Saber Red's identity to an original Roman emperor? Just make one up, or rearrange a few of her names.
You could literally keep everything about her, but just change the name (and maybe the relation to Caligula...maybe). It would be SO much better than to have to constantly explain to people who are coming into it, "Wait, no, you see she's not actually like the real life Nero! Seriously! You can really like this character and her backstory!".

Like we figured before, the disconnect between what Nero did and Japan is a massive one so it likely didn't seem like much of a problem to him, but I'll never get over it.
Even though I love me some Saber Red hot Extra.

Still, it's better than Saber Hitler, who only slaughtered the Jews because she was brainwashed by a mad magi who wanted to use her to dominate the world.
...I think I used that joke already. Dammit

Tammomo's master in one of the previous grail wars was Twice H. Pieceman.

The reasoning that I could come up with for using a well known character instead of making up one is that the more well know a legendary spirit is the stronger they tend to be while this was only relevant in FSN even they seemed to throw that out the window.

And what was made up about Gawain he has several tales to draw from the Numeral of the Saint and his sword Galatine can be found in some of his stories albeit the dont call them by the same name all the time.

I was positive Galantine was made up since I couldn't find it anywhere. Maybe I just didn't search hard enough.

Your reasoning makes a lot of sense actually. Too bad they really did throw that out the window by the end.

Wait, Twice? Really? I didn't know that! Are you sure?
In that case Tamomo would be the perfect EXTRA servant for an adaptation!