The console wars

@ Azuran: I'm not saying that Nintendo is blameless, they certainly have made some mistakes; like using cartridges for the N64 and their antics during the SNES era. It just seems to me that some people hate on Nintendo for trying something different when anything else would of been the equivalent of sailing on a ship full of holes.

Agree. I'm not defending Nintendo completely but current gamers are at "fault" too for not buying their last consoles.

Hell, Sony and Microsoft should have seen the Wii domination coming. Remember when people though the PSP would own the DS in sales just because it was more powerful and the DS was nothing more than a dumb gimmick? Yeah, so much for that. People like to trying new things and Ninty offered them that. Gamers can;t really blame them for that.

Also, people should be blaming third party developers and not Nintendo for the lack of "hardcore" games on the Wii. It's not their fault other developers keep making crap like Carnival Games.

Amen to that.

I have a Wii and Xbox 360. My Wii almost never gets any use. It was so cool the first couple of months, but then it has sit there in my living room collecting dust most of the year with a couple of exceptions like Dawn of the New World.

My 360 on the other hand gets daily use with RPGs and FPS/TPSs. Funny though, I used to be very anti-Microsoft (still am in a lot of other ways), but the 360 has to be my favorite console of all time. Great library, great online experience, plus I think the 360 controller is the best of all time. Of course that's relative anyway since I've never played a PS3, so don't go reading into that too much. XD

No console should be collecting dust. Hell, I hate that phrase completely. Seriously, how can a Wii be collecting dust when games like Madworld, Klonoa and Punchout!! had just been released on that system? Seriously, there's no way YOU own every single good game on the Wii. Also, it's your own fault if a system is collecting dust. The games are out there, you're just the one who's not buying them.

It looks to me you're a RPG/FPS fan which shows why you don't like the Wii. You've should have known that Nintendo systems have never been a place where you can get your shooting fix. If Tales of Symphonia is the reason why you're even playing with your Wii, then you should better sell it because you it's obvious the Wii is not for you. Also, my Wii has never collected dust so I don't know why it happens to other people especially when it has high replay value games like Mario Kart and Smash Bros. I've been playing Mario Kart Wii (a game that was released last year) nonstop for the last few months and I'm not even close to being bored yet.

Plus, there are a ton of games on the Virtual Console that a lot of newer gamers have never played, and they're not that expensive. Sure, you can play most of them on your computer with an emulator, but that's never as fun as playing them on your TV with a controller and not a keyboard.

Latest sales of current generation of video game consoles and handle held devices.

Wii

- 49.83 M


360

- 30.20 M


PS3

- 22.27 M


DS

- 103.16 M


PSP

- 47.55 M

lol, D.S has double the numbers over psp? wow

And the psp have double the price of the ds too though (well, back when i bought my ds)

My father and I got it for the novelty aspect, which of course had to be the dumbest reason ever, but I take a little comfort in knowing that a lot of people fell into that trap.

FPS no, but Nintendo used to always be the home of the RPGs, granted it hasn't for a long time, and it was a tad foolish to expect otherwise, but oh well. As far as replay value is concerned I have Brawl and Mario Kart, but I got exceedingly bored with both of them in about a months time. Brawl just doesn't have the same charm as Melee to me, as for Mario Kart I could probably randomly pick that up at any time, but I just don't care enough.

I'm mostly just disappointed in them. They've gone completely casual and all but have deserted their old hardcore fanbase. I mean they're making money, and that's good for them I suppose, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. It may make great business sense, but I don't have to agree with it.

And you do realize that "every good game" is as subjective as it gets right? I don't agree that any of the first few games you mentioned as good games. People have different tastes. I agree that it was silly for me to have gotten a Wii in the first place, but that doesn't mean I'm not entitled to my opinion of the Wii even if it isn't a positive one.

i love my Xbox since it can also play PS3 games which i like cause actually i think the ps3 is a bit pricey :/ but my xbox freezes though its rarely i hate that part. Can't wait for the new Final Fantasy <3

/facepalm

Your 360 can't play PS3 games... it can play multi-platform games that were released for both 360 and PS3.

New 360 Final Fantasy is gonna be a bajillion discs, I'm curious to see how many tbh, or if they'll nerf the graphics or something to make it fit on fewer discs.

How has Nintendo gone completelyt casual? They're still releasing the "hardcore" games people want. Are you gonna tell me Twilight Princess, Fire Emblem, Super Paper Mario, Metroid Prime 3, Battalion Wars, Mario Galaxy, Brawl, Mario Kart, Punchout, Sin and Punishment 2, and others are casual games? Nintendo has not abandoned gamers. Just because they released stuff like WIi Fit and Wii Music does not means they're still not making games for core gamers. Last time I checked, Nintendo has over 10 development studios. There's no way they are all making the same games.

Also, I said before and I'll say it again: Don't blame Nintendo for the casual Wii games, blame third-part developers. They're the ones who taking the casual thing to the next level. Besides some gems like No More Heroes and Madworld, much of the third party support is crap. There's no way Nintendo can't carry a console by itself.



Oh, but they are good games. Just because you said they don't fit your taste does not make them bad. Your opinion is completely wrong there especially when you clearly haven't played any of those games.

Azuran, you can see what's wrong with this statement, right?

I know, I just didn't know how to word that sentence better. I blame my horrible English skills.

There is no such thing as a wrong opinion. People can think them good or people can think them bad. An individual is entitled to believe whatever they want.

I think the point Azuran is trying to make is . . . well, I'm not sure how to put it, except by giving an example.

If a person says that Zelda: Ocarina of Time is an absolutely horrible game, then that person is entitled to his opinion, but just about everyone will disagree with him, and his reasons for disliking Ocarina of Time won't hold up in an argument.

Oh, alright. Yeah I can understand that. And I'm not going to even attempt to justify why I don't like a game because it's completely irrelevant. I don't because I don't, but I don't expect anyone to agree with me. It's a silly case for someone to try an justify their opinion when it comes to taking about video games. XD

It's okay I agree with you. And I am not just saying that cause I am a PS3 fanboy. I have owned many 360s but I have not gotten a wii and I won't. Cause I know it will see little to no use. I have played some fun wii games. Zelad, Mario Galaxy etc. It still wouldn't get much use. Maybe I would give it to my little sister if I bought it then got tired of it a week later. She has been wanting one.

I found an article that was apparently made a year ago, but it has an intelligent and interesting take on the situation (specifically with the Wii).

http://malstrom.50webs.com/birdman.html