Atheism
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Anyone who believes there is a divine power that governs above us is stupid. Science is the only God we need.
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If there is god or gods...it must be demon gods or something...cause this world is too fucked up beyond repair...
A quote from the atheist bible...If there is a god, It must be the God of War...
A quote from the atheist bible...If there is a god, It must be the God of War...
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willy191 wrote...
If there is god or gods...it must be demon gods or something...cause this world is too fucked up beyond repair...A quote from the atheist bible...If there is a god, It must be the God of War...
Now thatis ONE God I believe exists :)
He aint shy about reminding us either.
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willy191 wrote...
A quote from the atheist bible...willy191 wrote...
atheist bibleWhat? Do some atheists really try to make atheism seem like a religion?
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Nah...it's just some book mocking the real bible...it's full of atheist's quote...which is so funny yet so true...want me to share some?
@yoshitsuna...yeah he even bothered to create a game to remind us...lol
@yoshitsuna...yeah he even bothered to create a game to remind us...lol
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Religion is a touchy subject and really the truth is you don't need to believe in God himself, but his teachings(most of them) are what gets most people through the day. Life is hard and people need hope and something to believe in. And while I believe in God(because some things on this planet can only be explained by the notion of God Vs. the Devil) I don't follow everything the Christian teach. But most people probably should read and follow the bible, because it teaches us to love one another and all that other mushy stuff!
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Bible teaches me to love little boys... no seriously.
But, to be honest. The only thing I find more annoying then a highly religious person is a hard ass atheist. Seriously, how can someone be so damn arrogant as to think they KNOW FOR SURE that god doesn't exist. It's for this reason and this reason alone that I am a apathetic agnostic. I really don't give a crap either way.
I feel that religion to some level is important. It serves as a framework to teach people to respect each other. Some people just take it too literally and too far. Same goes for atheist though!~
But, to be honest. The only thing I find more annoying then a highly religious person is a hard ass atheist. Seriously, how can someone be so damn arrogant as to think they KNOW FOR SURE that god doesn't exist. It's for this reason and this reason alone that I am a apathetic agnostic. I really don't give a crap either way.
I feel that religion to some level is important. It serves as a framework to teach people to respect each other. Some people just take it too literally and too far. Same goes for atheist though!~
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Wikipedia wrote...
Existential nihilismExistential nihilism is the belief that life has no intrinsic meaning or value. It can stem from scientific analysis showing that only the physical laws contributed to our existence. With respect to the universe, a single human or even the entire human species is insignificant, without purpose and is not likely to change in the totality of existence. Quite simply, nihilists in this respect believe that the only purpose in life is to live it.
This is my belief. Whether there was or is a creator is not something I think about too deeply, because I'm done with that. I came to the conclusion that it does not care for us, or is powerless to do anything about us. You can use that "it's a parent watching it's child grow" bullshit if you want, but even a child's parent intervenes with actions and advice.
Whether there is something or not around that did create us, or interacts with people will be something I refuse to acknowledge until personally proven that it is there. Until then, I'm content letting people think what ever they want about an actual god-thing around us.
Atheist until proven otherwise.
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Vinen wrote...
But, to be honest. The only thing I find more annoying then a highly religious person is a hard ass atheist. Seriously, how can someone be so damn arrogant as to think they KNOW FOR SURE that god doesn't exist. It's for this reason and this reason alone that I am a apathetic agnostic. The reason you CAN know for sure (logically) is that the burden of proof is on the religious to prove a divine entity exists. For example how do you "know for sure" that I am not a magical unicorn typing this using a golden dildo? The answer is that you don't know that "for sure" because you can't logically prove a negative, so the burden of proof would be on me. But in reality, since I have offered no proof and made a ridiculous claim, you can say with 100% certainty that I am lying. The same goes for knowing that god doesn't exist, because the religious have offered no proof for their ridiculous claim.
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Longevity wrote...
So every time a person dies of cancer it is because of there free will. Not the illness itself. Wow that is probably the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Your think of singler free will not free will as a collective like if that person was going to die then does not die it effects others in some thing that was a fixed point.
I just read this again and it made me scratch my head. What is "Free Will as a Collective"? I always thought free will was singular because if more than one person says something and you follow blindly is that free will or just a sheep (follows the flock)
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Vinen wrote...
Bible teaches me to love little boys... no seriously.But, to be honest. The only thing I find more annoying then a highly religious person is a hard ass atheist. Seriously, how can someone be so damn arrogant as to think they KNOW FOR SURE that god doesn't exist. It's for this reason and this reason alone that I am a apathetic agnostic. I really don't give a crap either way.
I feel that religion to some level is important. It serves as a framework to teach people to respect each other. Some people just take it too literally and too far. Same goes for atheist though!~
I dont get the whole framework/respect argument. Most Primates dont habe a religion and dont crush each others heads... Even other animals show significant traits of morality.
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I grew up in a hardcore Christian household. Ever since I was five I just didn't believe. I grew up being told that it is wrong to not believe. I now ask you, the people, what do you think? Is it wrong? What?
Please be serious and do not troll the thread for being about religion.
Please be serious and do not troll the thread for being about religion.
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Actually theres no right or wrong in whether you believe in it or not. I'm not religious so I'm not too certain about these but in my opinion I reckon that believing in that there's a greater being out there so in this case 'god' is not true since didn't they say that "Everything God has created is perfect", so yet why did Satan exist? Why are we human beings sinning? If God give birth to us then who gave birth to God? There are so many contradictions with religion that I just lost faith in it.
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Wrong to not believe in God or a deity? No. Wrong to not believe in something? Yes.
A person has to have their own beliefs regardless of whether or not they are mythological or supernatural. It's almost painful to see so many Atheists who claim to believe in nothing. Atheism is and never was the belief in nothing. Atheism, in the broadest definition, is the rejection of believe in the existence of deities. I don't believe in God, I don't believe in any other gods, I don't believe in destiny, I don't believe in karma, and I don't believe in fate. What I do believe is my complete control over my own life.
Truly I've grown out of trying to bastardize religion. I'm even okay with the concept. What I'm not okay with is organized religion as a whole. I can't say what it does for individuals, but as a whole, I see it doing nothing but ruling over the lives of its believers. I think the quote from Dogma sets it up the best:
A person has to have their own beliefs regardless of whether or not they are mythological or supernatural. It's almost painful to see so many Atheists who claim to believe in nothing. Atheism is and never was the belief in nothing. Atheism, in the broadest definition, is the rejection of believe in the existence of deities. I don't believe in God, I don't believe in any other gods, I don't believe in destiny, I don't believe in karma, and I don't believe in fate. What I do believe is my complete control over my own life.
Truly I've grown out of trying to bastardize religion. I'm even okay with the concept. What I'm not okay with is organized religion as a whole. I can't say what it does for individuals, but as a whole, I see it doing nothing but ruling over the lives of its believers. I think the quote from Dogma sets it up the best:
"No, "Through the Looking Glass". That poem, "The Walrus and the Carpenter," that's an indictment of organized religion. The walrus, with his girth and his good nature, he obviously represents either Buddha, or, or with his tusks, the Hindu elephant god, Lord Ganesha. That takes care of your Eastern religions. Now the carpenter, which is an obvious reference to Jesus Christ, who was raised a carpenter's son, he represents the Western religions. Now in the poem, what do they do? What do they do? They, they dupe all these oysters into following them and then proceed to shuck and devour the helpless creatures en masse. I don't know what that says to you, but to me it says that following these faiths based on mythological figures ensures the destruction of one's inner being. Organized religion destroys who we are by inhibiting our actions, by inhibiting our decisions out of, out of fear of some, some intangible parent figure who, who shakes a finger at us from thousands of years ago and says, and says, "Do it... do it and I'll fuckin' spank you."
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It's not at all wrong to not believe. It might be wrong for you, but in no way is it wrong for everyone. This is the key point when it comes to faith, or a lack of it: There is no definitive answer. What's right for you isn't right for everyone else. If everyone remembered this, the world would be a much happier place. Sadly, this is unlikely to happen.
Why is it wrong not to believe? Why do you, specifically, think it's wrong? Because that's what you were taught? Because you think people would be happier if they believed? Stop projecting your own ideals and opinions onto others, and accept that they have their own values.
Why is it wrong not to believe? Why do you, specifically, think it's wrong? Because that's what you were taught? Because you think people would be happier if they believed? Stop projecting your own ideals and opinions onto others, and accept that they have their own values.
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SurvivorType wrote...
It's not at all wrong to not believe. It might be wrong for you, but in no way is it wrong for everyone. This is the key point when it comes to faith, or a lack of it: There is no definitive answer. What's right for you isn't right for everyone else. If everyone remembered this, the world would be a much happier place. Sadly, this is unlikely to happen.Why is it wrong not to believe? Why do you, specifically, think it's wrong? Because that's what you were taught? Because you think people would be happier if they believed? Stop projecting your own ideals and opinions onto others, and accept that they have their own values.
Was that a general answer to the question at hand, or was that directed at me specifically?
Given the context of your post and mine, and the fact that you posted after I did makes it hard to discern.