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one2hit wrote...
kaishu wrote...
I am currently reading The God Delusion by Dawkins. Very informative stuff!
The God Delusion is good... but I might recommend "The End of Faith" by Sam Harris if you want to read something that's entirely made of win and awesome. It is by far the most clear and level headed response to religious ideology ever written. You'll be amazed so many times.
Hmmm, I will have to check it out. I am trying to do more reading here lately and I'll look into any suggestions. =D
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While we're here, I wanted to drop this link. I'm not sure if it was posted in this thread so far but there is a whole lot of great stuff in here. Audiobooks, clips, documentaries, movies ect..
http://atheistmovies.blogspot.com/
Check out Collision, The Four Horsemen, Genius of Darwin.
http://atheistmovies.blogspot.com/
Check out Collision, The Four Horsemen, Genius of Darwin.
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Meh, all this circle jerking is boring, this thread needs some debate.
Let's try this:
Woah, somebody put Dawkins on a leash, he'll get that little muslim girl killed.
Let's try this:
Woah, somebody put Dawkins on a leash, he'll get that little muslim girl killed.
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Or this one again:
Hehe, I love that one. I love all of the stereotypical, or hypocritical, Christian views he throws out there that most Christians just go "Uh..." and don't have an actual religious rebuttal.
Hehe, I love that one. I love all of the stereotypical, or hypocritical, Christian views he throws out there that most Christians just go "Uh..." and don't have an actual religious rebuttal.
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Rbz wrote...
Meh, all this circle jerking is boring, this thread needs some debate.Let's try this:
[Where religion comes to die video]
Woah, somebody put Dawkins on a leash, he'll get that little muslim girl killed.
Nice one.. I was gonna post that, but you beat me to the punch. I'll raise you a Harris clip instead:
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(i realized that some of my grammmer was unclear so i fixed it to make it clearer!)
You know i once posted this....and...i realize now that this wasn't my last(at the bottom). i realize ive got one last messege to give. you see ladies and gentlemen. Boy and girls(of all of us know..all ages) there is one thing that, well needs to be said. you see. God.He sees every man woman and child the same way. someone that has a cross of burdens and regrets that weighs them down. and all the while they cry inside for someone to love them and for someone to take the burdens away. He sees that they cry for forgiveness but no one gives any.instead they add more and more.or sometimes add more by accident(as i have).Also God sees that in everyone there is some sin or regret. regardless how many or how few. so it brings me to my point.In order to give every single man woman and child the love they so desperatley want and so desperately cry for. He sent Jesus Christ. To die for all of their sins(mine and yours).when Christ died he sent out an invitation to all. regardless who. That invitation was for lack of a better way to relate. a box.in that box there is salvation.A complete pardon of all that you have,shall,or ever will do. and what is even cooler. a seat in heaven and a letter of authenticity(the holy spirit)that gives you an un-lose-able part in the inheritance of Christ.Salvation,Heaven, and an eternal close relationship with God that never ends and only grows all the sweeter and more amazing. but this gift my friends like any gift must be opened to recieve what is inside. which means you must ask.and to ask means to have faith or hope(otherwise you won't, or wouldn't of) nothing more i beg you to understand.And in saying this i can answer another question for you. something ive seen floating around. predestination. Just think for a moment. if you never opened a present could you see what is inside? If you nver walked through a doorway could you see what was written on the other side of it...the answer is...no. so predestination is true but not as we like to think sometimes. its a matter not of God determined but choice.its just God sees that some wont and never will. not a case of asking and then he takes away. its not His way. He knows who will and won't.
Know what! You stick to what you want and ill stick with God. when the world ends ill see you there though that day will be infinitely happy for me...you might be shouting fuck infinitely again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again..Cuz qiute frankly even though you refuse to see TRUTH which is uh..a FUCKLOAD HARDER THAN SAYING "IVE GOT NOTHIN TO LOOK FORWARD TO AFTER I DIE NOPE GOT NO SOUL AT ALL WOOHOO FUCKIN PARTY"..doesn't mean your not gonna be standing in front of him cowering. HAHAHA i fuckin laugh at you i i ican't stop hahaha..that scientific dating ur talkin about they proved that the methods of it calculations were errored hahahahahahaha and all your throwing at me GOD created, Darwin just scewed the findings with human error hahahahahaaaaha. you submit yourselves to hopelessness when he gave you salvation ur just too ignorant to see it and unwillingy to see ur own error HAVE FUN YOU SNIVELIN SHITS THIS IS MY LAST POST HOPE YA SEE GOD ONE DAY AND I HOPE ITS NOT WHEN HES STANDING OVER YOU ABOUT READY TO TOSS UR IGNORANT ASS IN HELL HAHAHAHAHA
You know i once posted this....and...i realize now that this wasn't my last(at the bottom). i realize ive got one last messege to give. you see ladies and gentlemen. Boy and girls(of all of us know..all ages) there is one thing that, well needs to be said. you see. God.He sees every man woman and child the same way. someone that has a cross of burdens and regrets that weighs them down. and all the while they cry inside for someone to love them and for someone to take the burdens away. He sees that they cry for forgiveness but no one gives any.instead they add more and more.or sometimes add more by accident(as i have).Also God sees that in everyone there is some sin or regret. regardless how many or how few. so it brings me to my point.In order to give every single man woman and child the love they so desperatley want and so desperately cry for. He sent Jesus Christ. To die for all of their sins(mine and yours).when Christ died he sent out an invitation to all. regardless who. That invitation was for lack of a better way to relate. a box.in that box there is salvation.A complete pardon of all that you have,shall,or ever will do. and what is even cooler. a seat in heaven and a letter of authenticity(the holy spirit)that gives you an un-lose-able part in the inheritance of Christ.Salvation,Heaven, and an eternal close relationship with God that never ends and only grows all the sweeter and more amazing. but this gift my friends like any gift must be opened to recieve what is inside. which means you must ask.and to ask means to have faith or hope(otherwise you won't, or wouldn't of) nothing more i beg you to understand.And in saying this i can answer another question for you. something ive seen floating around. predestination. Just think for a moment. if you never opened a present could you see what is inside? If you nver walked through a doorway could you see what was written on the other side of it...the answer is...no. so predestination is true but not as we like to think sometimes. its a matter not of God determined but choice.its just God sees that some wont and never will. not a case of asking and then he takes away. its not His way. He knows who will and won't.
Know what! You stick to what you want and ill stick with God. when the world ends ill see you there though that day will be infinitely happy for me...you might be shouting fuck infinitely again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again..Cuz qiute frankly even though you refuse to see TRUTH which is uh..a FUCKLOAD HARDER THAN SAYING "IVE GOT NOTHIN TO LOOK FORWARD TO AFTER I DIE NOPE GOT NO SOUL AT ALL WOOHOO FUCKIN PARTY"..doesn't mean your not gonna be standing in front of him cowering. HAHAHA i fuckin laugh at you i i ican't stop hahaha..that scientific dating ur talkin about they proved that the methods of it calculations were errored hahahahahahaha and all your throwing at me GOD created, Darwin just scewed the findings with human error hahahahahaaaaha. you submit yourselves to hopelessness when he gave you salvation ur just too ignorant to see it and unwillingy to see ur own error HAVE FUN YOU SNIVELIN SHITS THIS IS MY LAST POST HOPE YA SEE GOD ONE DAY AND I HOPE ITS NOT WHEN HES STANDING OVER YOU ABOUT READY TO TOSS UR IGNORANT ASS IN HELL HAHAHAHAHA
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Carthagian wrote...
You know i once posted this....and...i realize now that this wasn't my last(at the bottom). i realize ive got one last messege to give. you see ladies and gentlemen. Boy and girls(of all of us know..all ages) there is one thing that, well needs to be said. you see. God.He sees every man woman and child the same way. someone that has a cross of burdens and regrets that weighs them down. and all the while they cry inside for someone to love them and for someone to take the burdens away. He sees that they cry for forgiveness but no one gives any.instead they add more and more.or sometimes add more by accident(as i have).Also God sees that in everyone there is some sin or regret. regardless how many or how few. so it brings me to my point.In order to give every single man woman and child the love they so desperatley want and so desperately cry for. He sent Jesus Christ. To die for all of their sins(mine and yours).when Christ died he sent out an invitation to all. regardless who. That invitation was for lack of a better way to relate. a box.in that box there is salvation.A complete pardon of all that you have,shall,or ever will do. and what is even cooler. a seat in heaven and a letter of authenticity(the holy spirit)that gives you an irreplaceble or lose-able part in the inheritance of Christ.Salvation,Heaven, and an eternal close relationship with God that never ends and only grows all the sweeter and more amazing. but this gift my friends like any gift must be opened to recieve what is inside. which means you must ask.and to ask means to have faith or hope(otherwise you won't, or wouldn't of) nothing more i beg you to understand.And in saying this i can answer another question for you. something ive seen floating around. predestination. Just think for a moment. if you never opened a present could you see what is inside? If you nver walked through a doorway could you see what was written on the other side of it...the answer is...no. so predestination is true but not as we like to think sometimes. its a matter not of God determined but choice.its just God sees that some wont and never will. not a case of asking and then he takes away. its not His way. He knows who will and won't.Know what! You stick to what you want and ill stick with God. when the world ends ill see you there though that day will be infinitely happy for me...you might be shouting fuck infinitely again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again again and again..Cuz qiute frankly even though you refuse to see TRUTH which is uh..a FUCKLOAD HARDER THAN SAYING "IVE GOT NOTHIN TO LOOK FORWARD TO AFTER I DIE NOPE GOT NO SOUL AT ALL WOOHOO FUCKIN PARTY"..doesn't mean your not gonna be standing in front of him cowering. HAHAHA i fuckin laugh at you i i ican't stop hahaha..that scientific dating ur talkin about they proved that the methods of it calculations were errored hahahahahahaha and all your throwing at me GOD created, Darwin just scewed the findings with human error hahahahahaaaaha. you submit yourselves to hopelessness when he gave you salvation ur just too ignorant to see it and unwillingy to see ur own error HAVE FUN YOU SNIVELIN SHITS THIS IS MY LAST POST HOPE YA SEE GOD ONE DAY AND I HOPE ITS NOT WHEN HES STANDING OVER YOU ABOUT READY TO TOSS UR IGNORANT ASS IN HELL HAHAHAHAHA
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Oh yes, and you are clearly worthy of going to Heaven, I can tell.
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Carthagian wrote...
You know i once posted this....and...i realize now that this wasn't my last(at the bottom). i realize ive got one last messege to give. you see ladies and gentlemen. Boy and girls(of all of us know..all ages) there is one thing that, well needs to be said. you see. God.He sees every man woman and child the same way. someone that has a cross of burdens and regrets that weighs them down. and all the while they cry inside for someone to love them and for someone to take the burdens away. He sees that they cry for forgiveness but no one gives any.instead they add more and more.or sometimes add more by accident(as i have).Also God sees that in everyone there is some sin or regret. regardless how many or how few. so it brings me to my point.In order to give every single man woman and child the love they so desperatley want and so desperately cry for. He sent Jesus Christ. To die for all of their sins(mine and yours).when Christ died he sent out an invitation to all. regardless who. That invitation was for lack of a better way to relate. a box.in that box there is salvation.A complete pardon of all that you have,shall,or ever will do. and what is even cooler. a seat in heaven and a letter of authenticity(the holy spirit)that gives you an irreplaceble or lose-able part in the inheritance of Christ.Salvation,Heaven, and an eternal close relationship with God that never ends and only grows all the sweeter and more amazing. but this gift my friends like any gift must be opened to recieve what is inside. which means you must ask.and to ask means to have faith or hope(otherwise you won't, or wouldn't of) nothing more i beg you to understand.And in saying this i can answer another question for you. something ive seen floating around. predestination. Just think for a moment. if you never opened a present could you see what is inside? If you nver walked through a doorway could you see what was written on the other side of it...the answer is...no. so predestination is true but not as we like to think sometimes. its a matter not of God deblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah....
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one2hit wrote...
Carthagian wrote...
You know i once posted this....and...i realize now that this wasn't my last(at the bottom). i realize ive got one last messege to give. you see ladies and gentlemen. Boy and girls(of all of us know..all ages) there is one thing that, well needs to be said. you see. God.He sees every man woman and child the same way. someone that has a cross of burdens and regrets that weighs them down. and all the while they cry inside for someone to love them and for someone to take the burdens away. He sees that they cry for forgiveness but no one gives any.instead they add more and more.or sometimes add more by accident(as i have).Also God sees that in everyone there is some sin or regret. regardless how many or how few. so it brings me to my point.In order to give every single man woman and child the love they so desperatley want and so desperately cry for. He sent Jesus Christ. To die for all of their sins(mine and yours).when Christ died he sent out an invitation to all. regardless who. That invitation was for lack of a better way to relate. a box.in that box there is salvation.A complete pardon of all that you have,shall,or ever will do. and what is even cooler. a seat in heaven and a letter of authenticity(the holy spirit)that gives you an irreplaceble or lose-able part in the inheritance of Christ.Salvation,Heaven, and an eternal close relationship with God that never ends and only grows all the sweeter and more amazing. but this gift my friends like any gift must be opened to recieve what is inside. which means you must ask.and to ask means to have faith or hope(otherwise you won't, or wouldn't of) nothing more i beg you to understand.And in saying this i can answer another question for you. something ive seen floating around. predestination. Just think for a moment. if you never opened a present could you see what is inside? If you nver walked through a doorway could you see what was written on the other side of it...the answer is...no. so predestination is true but not as we like to think sometimes. its a matter not of God deblah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah....I agree with the person above me. As my fellow posters sometimes say. ^, this, forever this.
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The reason why relion is still alive is that it is able to make people blind to logic, and say things like that.
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I wouldn't call myself and atheist because I do believe there is the possibility of a god. However, if there is a god, then by no means would I ever worship him. To see little kids, and even babies stricken with horrible diseases, like cancer. And to think someone so young and innocent that they cant even comprehend life and death is being put through something so horrible and devastating, while there is an all powerful being sitting and watching absolutely sickens me. There are so many horrible things that happen in this world to people that dont deserve it at all. If there truly is some all powerful being that has the power to do whatever he wants, then I would like to take this time to raise the one finger salute to him.
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Zaff wrote...
I wouldn't call myself and atheist because I do believe there is the possibility of a god.So do I, but a certain answer to a particular question is what makes one an atheist: Do you believe in a god?
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Zaff wrote...
I wouldn't call myself and atheist because I do believe there is the possibility of a god. However, if there is a god, then by no means would I ever worship him. To see little kids, and even babies stricken with horrible diseases, like cancer. And to think someone so young and innocent that they cant even comprehend life and death is being put through something so horrible and devastating, while there is an all powerful being sitting and watching absolutely sickens me. There are so many horrible things that happen in this world to people that dont deserve it at all. If there truly is some all powerful being that has the power to do whatever he wants, then I would like to take this time to raise the one finger salute to him.You could be defined as Agnostic Atheist (same as me). Doesn't believe in a god, but isn't sure if a god exists anyways. Atheism and Agnosticism are not mutually exclusive ideas, in fact they answer different questions all together. Maybe this chart will help:
Most atheists are also agnostic. Fewer are Gnostic (or strong atheist). Most Theists (or religious types) would likely be Gnostic Theists (believing in, and knowing about the nature of God's existence). Some more humble theists might be agnostic theists (believing in God, but not claiming to know for sure that he exists).
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Atheist (at least the smart ones) keep speaking against religion, because it degrades society and has mostly a negative effect on it. It is harmful and for people to truly move on and evolve, it has to die. I do not hate religion or religious people, but I KNOW what I just said to be true (as well as any single human can know anything about things like this). But don't misunderstand. I don't wish for any dramatic purges or laws against them. I just wish that the religion could simply fade away and be forgotten. But that seems Preeeeetty unlikely. So religion keeps degrading and atheist keep arguing against it. I just hope it won't take too long...
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=YOSHITSUNA= wrote...
I would like all fello Athiests to watc the following videos.Spoiler:
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Next time use spoilers when posting multiple you tube vids or pics. But OT, I don't believe in God, I was taught as a kid to believe in it. In fact I probably might have for a short while. But now lost any faith or belief I ever held. I dun really regret this since I'm still living my life by my morals so in Christian's eyes I'm seen as a good person. It's kinda weird for my family situation since all but myself are faithful believers.
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There's one point i would like to post and this is that even if there's a god he can't be absolute or infinity because it creates a contraddiction, when something is infinite then theres no space for anything else hence the idea of infinity is pretty ilogical so even if tehre's a god he isnt all powerfull so he's just another creature like us.