Xbox One Epic Fail.
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One thing I gotta say is fun about this. Microsoft willingness to ignore it's consumers for years coming around to bite them in the ass so hard it takes a chunk out. Watching Microsoft's new console die will be an entertaining event, I'm wondering if they'll go the way of ACM, by everyone blaming everyone else in the production line, or Sim City, by ignoring what the problem is?
Microsoft already failed with the phone/touch devices and Windows 8 didn't live up to expectations, you'd think they'd be smarter now... Be more cautious and aware... Wonder If they'll blame consumers with "they just don't see how good our product is".
I still haven't forgotten Xbox 360 release, bunch of faulty consoles red lighting, if that happened again would that make things worse at this point?
Microsoft already failed with the phone/touch devices and Windows 8 didn't live up to expectations, you'd think they'd be smarter now... Be more cautious and aware... Wonder If they'll blame consumers with "they just don't see how good our product is".
I still haven't forgotten Xbox 360 release, bunch of faulty consoles red lighting, if that happened again would that make things worse at this point?
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I'll pass on this generation completely. No WiiU, PS4, or Xbox 1. I've been playing less games anyways. The only way I would ever get an Xbox 1 is if I have to get a new computer and Microsoft does the "laptop = free xbox" deal again. The only reason I have a 360 right now is because my mother just happened to have purchased a new laptop and got a 360 in the process. She doesn't play games. I do.
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Data Zero
Valkyrie Forces CO
Rbz wrote...
Oh, so Microsoft is that retarded. I'll make sure to have lower expectations of their business prudence regarding gaming next time. While Chlor gladly pays fees to watch Halo TV on a wannabe PC and play with digital crotch hounds in CoD: Invisible Turds Edition, signing in daily to reassure his masters he understands that he doesn't own the games he buys, I'll be doing what I want cause a pirate is free.
This thing sir, IS PURE GOLD!
Good job.
OT: So PS4 has advantages and Xbox lost his.
Heh. The upcoming generation promises to be fun.
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Ammy wrote...
. . .This.
I'm more excited for that Spielberg HALO series compared to everything else that was mentioned.
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Well, I always go about saying how much money I have and not being a poor bastard, buying every console but now I don't think I want to. Fuck the Xbox One.
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Depending on the price of this thing and the cost of Live in the future, I think may actually decide to shell out a few extra hundred dollars on newegg and put together a new PC rig. I really don't feel like dealing with all of that used game/kinect bullshit. I guess, in a strange kind of way, I should be thanking MS for making me jaded enough to just drop out of the console wars and spend more money to build a machine just so I can play games without so much hassle and at a lesser cost. I find this kind of funny as it's the reversal for why I left PC gaming in the first place and bought myself an Xbox.
I don't know. I think I'll wait and see if MS decides to make any future changes for the better, but I wouldn't bet very much on that happening.
I don't know. I think I'll wait and see if MS decides to make any future changes for the better, but I wouldn't bet very much on that happening.
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I thought the new xbox is designed really well. If I was behind this, I would've built in a subscription system to use the console at all too, because 14 year olds get their parents to buy it for their new dooty game anyway. Speaking of the new dooty for ksbawks, how do heat-seeking grenades and skull-seeking bullets sound? They sound like money to me. And we make that game so you don't even have to pull the trigger yourself. The heartrate monitor takes care of the shooting for you!
Jokes on me if they're actually implementing anything of that. I wouldn't be surprised.
Jokes on me if they're actually implementing anything of that. I wouldn't be surprised.
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Kaimax
Best Master-San
http://asia.gamespot.com/twitter-battle/xbox-vs-ps4/
Lol Landslide, stupid features is stupid.
Lol Landslide, stupid features is stupid.
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Rbz wrote...
Oh, so Microsoft is that retarded. I'll make sure to have lower expectations of their business prudence regarding gaming next time. While Chlor gladly pays fees to watch Halo TV on a wannabe PC and play with digital crotch hounds in CoD: Invisible Turds Edition, signing in daily to reassure his masters he understands that he doesn't own the games he buys, I'll be doing what I want cause a pirate is free.
Pfft.
I must admit to being intrigued in the Xbox One mostly due to the multimedia(aka. wannabe PC in layman-terms) deal. I mean, if someone presented to me a box and told me that this thing can work as a hub for your laptop/desktop/tablet, wirelessly stream content from my network HDD, access those nifty features like live TV, Netflix etc I would say that this was a Boxee, but this has the advantage of also playing games. What I want to know is the supported formats and codecs on that shit.
I'm not a gamer, and even less so a console-gamer (Because we can all agree that PC is OP in every aspect.) and I have no issue with my connection. Seriously, if you're bugging out on the "must be online" deal, then it's time to move out of whatever treehouse you're living in and join the civilization. So I don't quite see the issue here.
Edit: Hey would you look at that, http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20130522 pretty much sums up my entire opinion in one blog post. Woopwoop.
Edit2: Before someone misunderstands anything, I'm talking about the post, not the comic.
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Kaimax
Best Master-San
Chlor wrote...
Seriously, if you're bugging out on the "must be online" deal, then it's time to move out of whatever treehouse you're living in and join the civilization. So I don't quite see the issue here.Suddenly, Adam Orth all over again.
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Kaimax wrote...
Chlor wrote...
Seriously, if you're bugging out on the "must be online" deal, then it's time to move out of whatever treehouse you're living in and join the civilization. So I don't quite see the issue here.Suddenly, Adam Orth all over again.
Pretty much. And nonetheless the X1 will not require any constant internet connection anyway, so it's a bit besides the point.
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Chlor wrote...
I mean, if someone presented to me a box and told me that this thing can work as a hub for your laptop/desktop/tablet, wirelessly stream content from my network HDD, access those nifty features like live TV, Netflix etcWhat, your desktop can't handle that job?
Chlor wrote...
Seriously, if you're bugging out on the "must be online" deal, then it's time to move out of whatever treehouse you're living in and join the civilization. So I don't quite see the issue here.Chlor wrote...
#dealwithitYou want to buy a media platform with strict restrictions on how you consume your content? Fine. My fucks on this matter were spent elsewhere. It's also not always on, so people with shit connections shouldn't shit themselves just yet. However, our objections to the "check in with us daily" feature is that it's the same anti-consumer drm policy that gamers went apeshit about during the simcity debacle. I don't know about you, but I don't want to have to ask permission to be able to play my games; some people have principles. What do we do about it? We deal with it, of course. It's not very difficult. Not buying this farce of a machine takes no effort. As you've seen in this thread, other people had no trouble dealing with it by contemplating purchasing from Microsoft's competitors.
If I was a conspiracy theorist, I'd say that Sony and Nintendo collaborated on a joint "Fuck Microsoft" project by having a small group infiltrate the top management of M's Xbox division and have them propose daily check-ins, mandatory kinectivity, one account per game and lots of fucking TV. That would be one hell of a way to remove a competitor from the game industry.
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I'll wait and see for the exclusives. But PS4 seems to be in the plus side for me right now.
But I'v haven't been gaming a lot lately so I'm not sure I'll push through with a purchase.
I fear the day I stop playing games completely.
But I'v haven't been gaming a lot lately so I'm not sure I'll push through with a purchase.
I fear the day I stop playing games completely.
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Rbz wrote...
What, your desktop can't handle that job?It can, but not wirelessly and not as smoothly as I would be able to do it with a joint-multimedia hub. For example, my TV has two HDMI outputs and my desktop has one HDMI and one Display Port for as HD input/output. This means I either have to change my cables or go buy an adapter if I want to have both my HD comp monitor and my TV plugged in at the same time, and I can't use my regular dual-monitor setup either way.
A Boxee-box can wirelessly stream HD from my network HDD or computer to my TV without the need of cables. The same goes for audio, since the audio from my desktop to my TV is run through HDMI via my amplifier I have to swap between my desktop-speakers and my HiFi-system.
Now, I wouldn't go out and spend half a fortune on setting this system up, because, it's not that big a deal, but that doesn't mean I would actively avoid a simple way to do it when I see no problem with it. Not to mention if that voice-command system works as smoothly as it did during the presentation, bring it on.
Rbz wrote...
You want to buy a media platform with strict restrictions on how you consume your content? Fine. My fucks on this matter were spent elsewhere. It's also not always on, so people with shit connections shouldn't shit themselves just yet. However, our objections to the "check in with us daily" feature is that it's the same anti-consumer drm policy that gamers went apeshit about during the simcity debacle. I don't know about you, but I don't want to have to ask permission to be able to play my games; some people have principles. What do we do about it? We deal with it, of course. It's not very difficult. Not buying this farce of a machine takes no effort. As you've seen in this thread, other people had no trouble dealing with it by contemplating purchasing from Microsoft's competitors.Daily check ins are still just speculation, but you'll have to be online from time to time. For someone like me, with a constant and functioning connection that I wouldn't turn off anyway having to be online once in a while is a piss in the ocean, my other devices updates on a regular basis, why wouldn't my consoles do the same?
I don't really get the "asking permission" and "strict restrictions" parts, as I don't see where either comes into place. I have to log into my steam account, and my Xbox live account, and my PS3-profile etc to use my games anyway, so what's the difference?
Rbz wrote...
If I was a conspiracy theorist, I'd say that Sony and Nintendo collaborated on a joint "Fuck Microsoft" project by having a small group infiltrate the top management of M's Xbox division and have them propose daily check-ins, mandatory kinectivity, one account per game and lots of fucking TV. That would be one hell of a way to remove a competitor from the game industry.Mandatory kinect isn't really mandatory, it's a feature you can use like any other, and since the kinect ships with the console I really don't see the problem here, don't fucking use it if you don't like it. One account per game is a bit bitch, but hardly strange. Lots of TV is obviously because they're bringing a new feature to the console market, are people really that surprised that Microsoft choose to talk about the console-features instead of games when E3 is less than a month away?
I also want to know more about that cloud-power thingymajig they were talking about, putting processing power and render features in the cloud is fairly revolutionary and damn impressive if they do it right. THAT would however require a constant connection while playing a game that utilizes it.
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Kaimax wrote...
http://asia.gamespot.com/twitter-battle/xbox-vs-ps4/Lol Landslide, stupid features is stupid.
Weird how Iran loves the Xbox so much huh.
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Chlor wrote...
I don't really get the "asking permission" and "strict restrictions" parts, as I don't see where either comes into place.I.e., drm. I'll agree that it hasn't been conclusively verified that you have to be be logged in at least once during the day to play any of your games. I'll be interested to see what hackers have to say about the system.
Chlor wrote...
For someone like meI wouldn't turn off anyway
It isn't about you, though. We don't all keep our shit connected 24/7. Hence the concerns.
Chlor wrote...
I have to log into my steam account, and my Xbox live account, and my PS3-profile etc to use my games anyway, so what's the difference?The difference is that you don't have to be connected to actually run the games. I believe Steam has an offline mode in case you don't have a connection. If you're playing multiplayer or want to conduct transactions digitally then it goes without saying that you have to be online. In my case, I never log into PSN unless I'm looking for a demo or want to update my games.
Chlor wrote...
Mandatory kinect isn't really mandatory, it's a feature you can use like any other, and since the kinect ships with the console I really don't see the problem here, don't fucking use it if you don't like it.Maybe they'll let you disable the thing completely in the settings, but I have my doubts considering this. Call me cynical, but I don't trust that they're overly concerned about privacy. Again, I'll be interested to see what hackers figure out about the system.
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Here's some more good news. Apparently when you load the code on your xbox file; you can play on another Xbox1, sadly you and a friend can't do that on your own file. Hence the fee you have to pay inorder to play it on your Profile.
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Rbz wrote...
It isn't about you, though. We don't all keep our shit connected 24/7. Hence the concerns.
True, but Microsoft obviously choose a more digitally present userbase. The Xbox One is obviously meant to be a multimedia machine rather than a pure gaming console and that means re-calibrating the target audiences. This will obviously scare of a lot of "gamers", but they probably count on that it will appeal to the larger masses. There is logic in that, they are, like Nintendo did with the Wii, trying to reach out en-masse. A lot of people would probably be happy to have a multimedia top that did all the jazz that most people have numerous devices to do.
This obviously means it will relate more to the casual crowd, which I suppose I count myself into.
Rbz wrote...
The difference is that you don't have to be connected to actually run the games. I believe Steam has an offline mode in case you don't have a connection. If you're playing multiplayer or want to conduct transactions digitally then it goes without saying that you have to be online. In my case, I never log into PSN unless I'm looking for a demo or want to update my games.
It seems to lean towards that you won't have to be online to play offline on the X1 either. Most likely you'll have to be synced, and this is probably where the "daily check-in" enters the picture. You'll have to be synced for everything to work, and thus you'll have to have a somewhat persistent connection.
Rbz wrote...
Call me cynical, but I don't trust that they're overly concerned about privacy. Again, I'll be interested to see what hackers figure out about the system.Oh yeah, people will without a doubt both be able to watch your shit and listen in on you through the kinect device. The question is only how long it will take before they can do it.