Atheism

Your think of singler free will not free will as a collective like if that person was going to die then does not die it effects others in some thing that was a fixed point.

What the hell are ya speaking boy?
Do you understand that LIFE itself is Naturally "free willed" from the beginning and there is no such thing as seperate "free will"?
Animals are free willed to eat themselves and you as well if you don't "free will"-ingly kill them first.

or you mean if a predator couldn't kill you today it would kill somebody else? that's fucking obvious 'cuz it needs to eat, you know.

It's something I was taught in philosophy at school and the whole idea of free will. That free will can be thought as a bigger picture. "cause and effect".

Yup, that's more like it. Knowing "cause and effect" is good for your health.

But this "cause and effect" thing itself is an effect of human understanding of interactions between lifeforms which "free will" is only limited to their abilities.

so


Illness as a lifeform itself can not be effected by mind-speaking words that we learned in some kind of religion.

But it may be effected by the power human body potentially holds wich is very tightly connected with psyche {selfconscious} of the disease-carrier. Or by any other interference in the disease (be it environment, climate, motion, etc.)

I ment that if that person doesn't die that person ends up effecting other people in things that wouldn't of happened if they had died. Therefore presenting some new decisions & possibly removing some.

And that is just a wrong hypothetical statment 'cuz i'm a stupid bitch.

Your statement is wrong because it has nothing to do with knowing the future.

from the start of this descussion I've been getting the feeling that longevity has been the fool.

and finding age & gentles comments enlightining except some of what gentle says on age's comment about future isn't making any sence gentle is begining to look a little foolish himself.

I think age might be a little stuborn, but at least his come backs hold more water.

I do not understand how Longevity is being a fool, He is stating is own opinions and stating why there is not point in beleiving in what is not real.
Age is stating points because he obviously beleives in it, Its usually harder to argue with people that believe than people who dont. its generally a fight that will never end. What Age has going is some good points but also can mean nothing if you choose not to beleive a word he says.
Longevity is an atheist, he will choose to be right and So will age. its a pointless argument, but is one that will never end.

Me stubborn, never

and what I said is purely theoretical since you can't change things that are going to happen.

There argument didn't matter on belief and I'm pretty sure age had been coming from a point of neither a believer or a non believer.

that's where I've been coming from I've been talking hypotheticaly this whole time.

Yeah, it was starting to become quite the ramble.

That's the main reason why I said gentle wasn't talking sence when he said you where wrong looks like he realized he was wrong.

haven't you just answered your own question it was senseless because it was wrong.

I wasn't proved wrong, Gentle even admitted himself that he was wrong and what I said was hypothetical.