Atheism
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Longevity wrote...
I don't honestly think anyones view points are gonna change, I still find the concept of a God to be idiotic and childish at best.Age is gonna keep believing God is real and creator of all.
I have no reason to change my feelings and Age has no reason to change his this is just becoming pointless rage that is being escalated to pure idiocy on both sides.
Hmm.. I never said that I believed. This whole thing started because I was trying to get you to under stand the difference between God and religion and the existance of a god didn't matter.
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gentle Jichan wrote...
Edward wrote...
haven't you just answered your own question it was senseless because it was wrong.no, Edward, cuz I am asking you "what do you find senceless in my shit {words}" ?
if you were speaking about our misunderstanding then "Wrong" here is not the word.
but if you were pointing out another thing - then, please, explain yourself.
You know a lot of the words that come out your mouth are shit.
You think just becuase you have this avatar of an old wise looking man that we are going to take you seriusly when the majority of the time your BS'ing.
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Age wrote...
Longevity wrote...
I don't honestly think anyones view points are gonna change, I still find the concept of a God to be idiotic and childish at best.Age is gonna keep believing God is real and creator of all.
I have no reason to change my feelings and Age has no reason to change his this is just becoming pointless rage that is being escalated to pure idiocy on both sides.
Hmm.. I never said that I believed. This whole thing started because I was trying to get you to under stand the difference between God and religion and the existance of a god didn't matter.
Okay I see your point. But as my last point stated this is become mindless jibber-jabber that isn't Serious it should be in IB fairly soon. Let's just stop this mindlessness and get on with our lives.
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Longevity wrote...
Age wrote...
Longevity wrote...
I don't honestly think anyones view points are gonna change, I still find the concept of a God to be idiotic and childish at best.Age is gonna keep believing God is real and creator of all.
I have no reason to change my feelings and Age has no reason to change his this is just becoming pointless rage that is being escalated to pure idiocy on both sides.
Hmm.. I never said that I believed. This whole thing started because I was trying to get you to under stand the difference between God and religion and the existance of a god didn't matter.
Okay I see your point. But as my last point stated this is become mindless jibber-jabber that isn't Serious it should be in IB fairly soon. Let's just stop this mindlessness and get on with our lives.
Yea I have been getting a bit bored of it now. I guess I like to debate, but I'm no good with supplying facts only hypothetical answers or ideas.
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I dont think anybody can logically say they are not an atheist. there is so much tragedy in religions and beliefs like christianity and islam, etc. that it is impossible to believe in them without contradicting your own belief. take for example a devout christian who believes in the "10 commandments" even though the religion of christianity itself was created and survived through the murder, rape, and killing of millions of people through =out its 2000 year history. or a muslim, who thinks he is a man of god when hundreds of years ago, and even today, hundreds of thousands of people have killed in the name of their holy figure. there is no possible way i myself can believe that some holy power can exist when literally millions of people around the world starve, murder, and are killed everyday, when we sit on our computers typing on forums about being holy or not. there are things that happen, and have happened that people can see, but only if they choose to really look for it, that will tell them that something like religion is only used to gain control over other people. take for example the crusades of the middle east and europe, where christians and muslims collided and killed hundreds of thousands of people, over something as unimportant as a hill, or Hitler killing millions of people only because they believed a certain belief.
its because of things that happen like this that no man or woman should be able to believe in a god that lets these things happen so easily without interfering
its because of things that happen like this that no man or woman should be able to believe in a god that lets these things happen so easily without interfering
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Longevity wrote...
I am an atheist one because I find the whole thought of a creator to be stupid and idiotic. I used to go to church one because they had doughnuts all the time and they also had some damn good coffee. For a while I started to believe in the crap that was being spewed, but when I found God isn't for equal rights and never answers prayers I basically felt fuck this shit. The bible says "If a Man is Gay or a Women is Lesbian they will be cast into Hell." I have a gay and lesbian cousin so are they gonna go to hell? Why would I wanna promote that. The Bible also says "If a man takes his own life he will go to hell" my Uncle committed suicide in 2005 is he in hell now? Also would any of you be willing to sell your daughter into sex slavery?(Exodus 21:7-11)
Spoiler:
If you do believe in a God good for you.
what's the name of that model?(your pic)
speaking of religion - god didn't create humans, humans created god.
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ringiliard wrote...
Longevity wrote...
I am an atheist one because I find the whole thought of a creator to be stupid and idiotic. I used to go to church one because they had doughnuts all the time and they also had some damn good coffee. For a while I started to believe in the crap that was being spewed, but when I found God isn't for equal rights and never answers prayers I basically felt fuck this shit. The bible says "If a Man is Gay or a Women is Lesbian they will be cast into Hell." I have a gay and lesbian cousin so are they gonna go to hell? Why would I wanna promote that. The Bible also says "If a man takes his own life he will go to hell" my Uncle committed suicide in 2005 is he in hell now? Also would any of you be willing to sell your daughter into sex slavery?(Exodus 21:7-11)
Spoiler:
If you do believe in a God good for you.
what's the name of that model?(your pic)
speaking of religion - god didn't create humans, humans created god.
I think that's Maria Ozawa(Spelling???), a Porn Star. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.
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ringiliard wrote...
Longevity wrote...
I am an atheist one because I find the whole thought of a creator to be stupid and idiotic. I used to go to church one because they had doughnuts all the time and they also had some damn good coffee. For a while I started to believe in the crap that was being spewed, but when I found God isn't for equal rights and never answers prayers I basically felt fuck this shit. The bible says "If a Man is Gay or a Women is Lesbian they will be cast into Hell." I have a gay and lesbian cousin so are they gonna go to hell? Why would I wanna promote that. The Bible also says "If a man takes his own life he will go to hell" my Uncle committed suicide in 2005 is he in hell now? Also would any of you be willing to sell your daughter into sex slavery?(Exodus 21:7-11)
Spoiler:
If you do believe in a God good for you.
what's the name of that model?(your pic)
speaking of religion - god didn't create humans, humans created god.
Longevity wrote...
If man hadn't created Religion then their would be no God.I said that.
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^This man right here is totally right^
Man created god because of their inability to comprehend things. Man created heaven because of their fear of death. Man created hell to scare little boys and girls into being good little boys and girls. After man created god, they created a place to worship this almighty creater and his opinions. This was the church. All of this culminates into a religion.
Just so you know, im an atheist ;)
I stopped believing because I thought creation was a stupid concept...And that was when i was in like 3rd or 4th grade.
Man created god because of their inability to comprehend things. Man created heaven because of their fear of death. Man created hell to scare little boys and girls into being good little boys and girls. After man created god, they created a place to worship this almighty creater and his opinions. This was the church. All of this culminates into a religion.
Just so you know, im an atheist ;)
I stopped believing because I thought creation was a stupid concept...And that was when i was in like 3rd or 4th grade.
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I believe the existence of god.
I have been thinking that if there is no god, who created this universe?
I'm certain that it did not happen on its own.
I think that if god did not answer our prayers there must be a reason for it.
That is what i think. No offense to atheist.
If you're atheist, you're cool with me.no prob.
I have been thinking that if there is no god, who created this universe?
I'm certain that it did not happen on its own.
I think that if god did not answer our prayers there must be a reason for it.
That is what i think. No offense to atheist.
If you're atheist, you're cool with me.no prob.
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From Nothingness what's the only thing you can get "Something" and that something was the Universe.
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Longevity wrote...
From Nothingness what's the only thing you can get "Something" and that something was the Universe.Cuz that makes perfect, logical sense. Not.
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Ethil wrote...
Longevity wrote...
From Nothingness what's the only thing you can get "Something" and that something was the Universe.Cuz that makes perfect, logical sense. Not.
And saying some mighty being who snapped his fingers and poof the universe was there is?
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Longevity wrote...
Ethil wrote...
Longevity wrote...
From Nothingness what's the only thing you can get "Something" and that something was the Universe.Cuz that makes perfect, logical sense. Not.
And saying some mighty being who snapped his fingers and poof the universe was there is?
Since none of them have been given a reasonable explanation, they're both equally ridiculous and believable.
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Ethil wrote...
Longevity wrote...
Ethil wrote...
Longevity wrote...
From Nothingness what's the only thing you can get "Something" and that something was the Universe.Cuz that makes perfect, logical sense. Not.
And saying some mighty being who snapped his fingers and poof the universe was there is?
Since none of them have been given a reasonable explanation, they're both equally ridiculous and believable.
They are most certainly not equally ridiculous.
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these kind of threads never end do they? ah well I'll share my beliefs to:
First of all I’m a pearlist
which means that I believe in Physical Evidence And Reasoned Logic(PEARL for short)
I believe the question if god exist or not is meaningless, because as far as I know everything real that there is an explanation for today doesn’t need god to explain anything. This makes god unnecessary because we can explain things with him or without him. It makes absolutely no difference.
furthermore there seem to be no evidence or theory based on evidence that requires god to make sense. Therefore the question if god exist or not is as meaningful as if there were intelligent aliens on earth, Santa Claus, the flying spaghetti monster, wizards like in harry potter, and so on, as long as we explain them so that they work perfectly with the world we know. But as long as there isn’t anything real that requires them to make sense. I have no reason to believe in it.
because when I’m faced with 2 explanations and they seem to be equal in probability to be true, and the only difference between them is that the first of them have more entities, assumptions, claims etc
I chose the second one!
First of all I’m a pearlist
which means that I believe in Physical Evidence And Reasoned Logic(PEARL for short)
I believe the question if god exist or not is meaningless, because as far as I know everything real that there is an explanation for today doesn’t need god to explain anything. This makes god unnecessary because we can explain things with him or without him. It makes absolutely no difference.
furthermore there seem to be no evidence or theory based on evidence that requires god to make sense. Therefore the question if god exist or not is as meaningful as if there were intelligent aliens on earth, Santa Claus, the flying spaghetti monster, wizards like in harry potter, and so on, as long as we explain them so that they work perfectly with the world we know. But as long as there isn’t anything real that requires them to make sense. I have no reason to believe in it.
because when I’m faced with 2 explanations and they seem to be equal in probability to be true, and the only difference between them is that the first of them have more entities, assumptions, claims etc
I chose the second one!
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Ethil wrote...
Longevity wrote...
From Nothingness what's the only thing you can get "Something" and that something was the Universe.Cuz that makes perfect, logical sense. Not.
actually it does in its own way make sense. the expanding of the universe can be proven today; which in turn supports the theory of the big bang. if we look through satellite images into space we can see that space is expanding and everything is becoming more spread out. and that is because of the implosion and splitting of an atom. science can prove things that religion unfortunately cannot
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Mr.nockers wrote...
Ethil wrote...
Longevity wrote...
From Nothingness what's the only thing you can get "Something" and that something was the Universe.Cuz that makes perfect, logical sense. Not.
actually it does in its own way make sense. the expanding of the universe can be proven today; which in turn supports the theory of the big bang. if we look through satellite images into space we can see that space is expanding and everything is becoming more spread out. and that is because of the implosion and splitting of an atom. science can prove things that religion unfortunately cannot
*sigh* Dudes, what I'm saying is that just stating "this is how it happened" without stating the background facts (or KNOWING the facts for that matter) is just as ignorant as babbling about God and shit like that. Besides, science do not believe that "Something" came out of "Nothing" anyway. This "Something" just turned into "something" else. My point proven?
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i hear you there i am an atheist myself i belive in evelution and wahtnot but not to the extent that id go call peole who do belive in a higher power idiots or anything because i know there has to be SOME kind of after life, for i ahve expiranced a rather powerfull haunting first hand, [voices objects moveing ext] and with all the diffrent shows like gohst hunters i just know there has to be anouther life but at the same time i dont think some allmight power is going to decied weither i get to live on or burn for a millin years, and before people point it out i know theres going to be sombody who says those shows are fake however as a counter point if you ever saw a real haunting im pretty sure youd be speechless. i mean sure a lot of it can be atributed to natural phenomana but a lot is just plain supernature. so to sum it up i dont think threres a god but if you do i ahve no problem with that, yes i belive in some kind of after life. does that make me a hypocrite? no i dont think so thats my veiw on things